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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:

     It's why the 2 series of cars can be made on the same line and it's so easy to convert the RSR into a mid engine car.

    Or, conversely, convert the mid engine car into an RS!


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    otisdog:
    Whoopsy:

     It's why the 2 series of cars can be made on the same line and it's so easy to convert the RSR into a mid engine car.

    Or, conversely, convert the mid engine car into an RS!

     

    Oh there is at least a couple running around at Weissach.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:
    otisdog:
    Whoopsy:

     It's why the 2 series of cars can be made on the same line and it's so easy to convert the RSR into a mid engine car.

    Or, conversely, convert the mid engine car into an RS!

     

    Oh there is at least a couple running around at Weissach.

    That's nice, but I want one in my garage!


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:

    Compared to 911 production, R8/Huracan production is just a novelty item.

    Plus, the 911 shared the platform with Cayman/Boxster, so the production numbers are even higher.

    Porsche doesn't want to admit that but it's the truth. It's why the 2 series of cars can be made on the same line and it's so easy to convert the RSR into a mid engine car.

    I am curious about the next gen R8 (yes, it seems there will be one after Porsche apparently abandoned the 960...which remains to be seen, the story doesn't seem to be over Smiley) and Huracan: Apparently they will share Porsche's sportscar platform (which includes the 992). The R8/Huracan are already heavy cars in their class (well, compared to Ferrari and McLaren), so... Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    RC:
    Whoopsy:

    Compared to 911 production, R8/Huracan production is just a novelty item.

    Plus, the 911 shared the platform with Cayman/Boxster, so the production numbers are even higher.

    Porsche doesn't want to admit that but it's the truth. It's why the 2 series of cars can be made on the same line and it's so easy to convert the RSR into a mid engine car.

    I am curious about the next gen R8 (yes, it seems there will be one after Porsche apparently abandoned the 960...which remains to be seen, the story doesn't seem to be over Smiley) and Huracan: Apparently they will share Porsche's sportscar platform (which includes the 992). The R8/Huracan are already heavy cars in their class (well, compared to Ferrari and McLaren), so... Smiley

    Well Lamborghini also has a rich history of making Grand Tourers, and if they can reapropriate the R&D Porsche might've put into the 960 and sell that platform at a much higher premium, that would play right into their business strategy. Some of the 911 variants are already more GT than Sporty, Lambo on the other hand only has sporty cars, Urus excluded. Why not revive the Miura moniker and make a much bigger ROI then selling it as a 960?


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    New 992 Turbo Spy Pics.

    This one has slightly diferent headlights than the ones seen in the nurburgring video (the daytime running lights are different, MATRIX perhaps?).porsche-911-turbo-mule-c669325062018143859_9.jpgporsche-911-turbo-mule-c669325062018143859_8.jpg
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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Dont remember seing those holes in other cars.

    1530646768350Clip_10.jpg


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    Dont remember seing those holes in other cars.

    1530646768350Clip_10.jpg

    Looks like an ultrasonic parking sensor but mounted a bit higher than usual.  It probably is mounted in a darkened strip, a similar strip appears on the 718 twins, to help camouflage those sensors.  This turbo looks extremely wide and this is may be an artifact of sharing a platform with the Lamborghini Huracan replacement.  


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    The car does have parking sensors in the lower bumper.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    I think these are oil slick sprayers like in James Bond's DB5. indecision

    Just to get rid of the following R8. angrysmiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Rossi:

    I think these are oil slick sprayers like in James Bond's DB5. indecision

    indecision


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    BTW, wheels for 992 Turbo will be 20" front and 21" rear.


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    BTW, wheels for 992 Turbo will be 20" front and 21" rear.

    when will the turbo be presented?


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    pmarkow:
    KresoF1:

    BTW, wheels for 992 Turbo will be 20" front and 21" rear.

    when will the turbo be presented?

    You mean web press intro?

    Most likely late Spring 2019.

    Start if sale? Autumn 2019 with first deliveries most likely in early 2020.

    But, it could even happend earlier since the only models from 991.2 series which will stay is production is GT3 RS and that Speedster.


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    KresoF1:
    pmarkow:
    KresoF1:

    BTW, wheels for 992 Turbo will be 20" front and 21" rear.

    when will the turbo be presented?

    You mean web press intro?

    Most likely late Spring 2019.

    Start if sale? Autumn 2019 with first deliveries most likely in early 2020.

    But, it could even happend earlier since the only models from 991.2 series which will stay is production is GT3 RS and that Speedster.

    ok, got it. thanks!


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    KresoF1:
    pmarkow:
    KresoF1:

    BTW, wheels for 992 Turbo will be 20" front and 21" rear.

    when will the turbo be presented?

    You mean web press intro?

    Most likely late Spring 2019.

    Start if sale? Autumn 2019 with first deliveries most likely in early 2020.

    But, it could even happend earlier since the only models from 991.2 series which will stay is production is GT3 RS and that Speedster.

    Wouldn't you rather expect presentation at the IAA in September?


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    No, Turbo is always officially presented at Geneva.


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    CGX car nut:
    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    Dont remember seing those holes in other cars.

    1530646768350Clip_10.jpg

    Looks like an ultrasonic parking sensor but mounted a bit higher than usual.  It probably is mounted in a darkened strip, a similar strip appears on the 718 twins, to help camouflage those sensors.  This turbo looks extremely wide and this is may be an artifact of sharing a platform with the Lamborghini Huracan replacement.  

    Reminds me of the DB5 in Goldfinger with the oil spur jets in the back


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Yeah, those are definitely weapons!

    My guess is dual rear facing cameras for stereo vision. Autopilot option indecision


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    I hate to say this, but it's time to end the 911 series. They need something as new as it was when the 901 was.first released. It's evolved into.a.retro and overly heavy and complex and overpriced  Frankenstein. PORSCHE needs.to put a.stake through its heart.


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    You mean you mean like the 928? Or 914? Or 968? They weren’t that that popular unlike the 911. I will always want a 911 in my garage...


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    It's just too geriatric.


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    KresoF1:
    pmarkow:
    KresoF1:

    BTW, wheels for 992 Turbo will be 20" front and 21" rear.

    when will the turbo be presented?

    You mean web press intro?

    Most likely late Spring 2019.

    Start if sale? Autumn 2019 with first deliveries most likely in early 2020.

    But, it could even happend earlier since the only models from 991.2 series which will stay is production is GT3 RS and that Speedster.

     

    At the Zuffenhausen factory earlier in the week they said they were making 270 cars per day.

    Not sure whether 718 sales have picked up. There were certainly more 911s than 718s on the production line..

    Yes there will be a few GT4s and Speedsters, but they must be planning to deliver a lot of GT3RSs. Makes you wonder why the GT3 production was curtailed when it was given the unmet demand...

     


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    JimFlat6:

    I hate to say this, but it's time to end the 911 series. They need something as new as it was when the 901 was.first released. It's evolved into.a.retro and overly heavy and complex and overpriced  Frankenstein. PORSCHE needs.to put a.stake through its heart.

    Yes because sales of the 911 are so bad year by year, heck they cant even unload their more limited models like the GT's, with horrible resale too, and as popular culture and media go, nobody talks about the 911 anymore Smiley ... best they get rid of this unique platform nobody else can replicate or compete with and try luck at what everybody else is making... best move ever Smiley


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    KresoF1:
    pmarkow:
    KresoF1:

    BTW, wheels for 992 Turbo will be 20" front and 21" rear.

    when will the turbo be presented?

    You mean web press intro?

    Most likely late Spring 2019.

    Start if sale? Autumn 2019 with first deliveries most likely in early 2020.

    But, it could even happend earlier since the only models from 991.2 series which will stay is production is GT3 RS and that Speedster.

    Spring 2019 is too early in my opinion, they still seem to have lots of issues with the tech. Smiley

    I'd rather say 2020...


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    While I generally agree with RC, it’s always a mistake to predict Porsche’s debuts. Geneva, in particular, often contains wonderful surprises.


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Wonderbar:

    While I generally agree with RC, it’s always a mistake to predict Porsche’s debuts. Geneva, in particular, often contains wonderful surprises.

    I don't want to predict anything, there is a lot going on at Porsche right now (certifications, re-certifications, particulate filter, etc. etc. etc.), so...

    There is a reason why dealers apparently can't get customers new cars (newly ordered models) until early 2019.


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    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    JimFlat6:

    I hate to say this, but it's time to end the 911 series. They need something as new as it was when the 901 was.first released. It's evolved into.a.retro and overly heavy and complex and overpriced  Frankenstein. PORSCHE needs.to put a.stake through its heart.

    Your points are well taken.  I quit writing them letters about the Mercedes like qualities and weight creeping in in 1992.  I can live with the GT cars, but won't ever buy another regular [nor other models] 911.

    The GT cars will always sell, even the coming turbos.


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    At my dealer, one of the largest on the east coast of the US, they cannot get enough “regular” 911s to satisfy the demand.  This has been exacerbated by Porsche cutting back on US allocations so European deliveries can be made before certain emission restrictions go into effect.

     The 911 is plenty fast for me, and far more useful than a GT version. But my problem is the need for more space for my family and traveling lifestyle. 


    Re: 992 (Next 911 generation 2018/2019) Thread Closed

    Wonderbar:

    At my dealer, one of the largest on the east coast of the US, they cannot get enough “regular” 911s to satisfy the demand.  This has been exacerbated by Porsche cutting back on US allocations so European deliveries can be made before certain emission restrictions go into effect.

    This is now because of the production stop. Before that, you could find tons of 911 everywhere. Smiley

     The 911 is plenty fast for me, and far more useful than a GT version. But my problem is the need for more space for my family and traveling lifestyle. 

    Porsche has two choices here: Either they make the back seats more comfortable (should be possible but increasing total length of the car by 50 centimeters) or they offer a 911 GT which is longer.

    Best alternative would be some sorts of 928 ("Panamera Coupe") of course but if Porsche isn't willing to take the risk, a longer 911 may be the most elegant solution.


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