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    Re: [2021] Formula 1

    It’s a lose-lose situation for FIA & F1:

    • Merc goes to court and wins -> Lewis WC, Max loser
    • Merc goes to court and lose -> Max WC, Merc sore loser
    • FIA invalidates last race -> Max WC, Lewis loser although he lost a race which he was to win w/o Masi‘s stupidity of bending SC rules

     

    @Whoopsy said it right, the best would have been to red flag the race, restart for 3 laps with everyone on a new set of tyres (if available) and take it to the end.

    For now the rice is cooked, Masi will/ should be good fired as we‘re talking a billion dollar business and he f**ked up big time not only this race but the entire season.

    The two way communication between teams and race director should be stopped, in no other sport you can talk to the referee during the event to interfere (only in play breaks).

    Lewis‘s did all right Espenlaubes in this race, Max took profit from an extrem bad call from Masi but still he deserves the title as much as Lewis would have.

    Now we should move on at see what’s going to happen next season.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Lewis and Merc will be very aggressive as of the start especially with Max to let him prove his worthiness of the so called „stolen title“.

    Remember Barbie Rosberg who walked away in a minute after his title win 2016, he knew what was going to be expected from Lewis, total destruction.

    And I expect the same in 2022, Lewis will get his 8th title and show who’s still the alpha dog as a complete F1 driver & champ.


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    In reading the FIA statement, they are blaming the controversy on a misunderstanding by “fans and teams”. 😂 yup admit nothing!  Susie Wolff gave an interview and said the following, if her feelings are anything like her husbands… they want the admission and changes and Masi fired?

    “The decision of one person within the governing body who applied a rule in a way which has never been done before in F1 single handedly decided the F1 Driver World Championship. Rules are rules, they can’t be changed on a whim by one individual at the end of a race. 

    “Lewis Hamilton, you have shown incredible integrity and dignity in the face of injustice. You are the greatest there has ever been. The outcome of the last laps on Sunday? Those who know, they know, even those who can’t quite bring themselves to admit it.

    “Congratulations Max and congratulations to each and every member of Mercedes on your record breaking eighth constructors title – I hope by March of next year there is a governing body with sporting integrity and fairness at its core so I can fall back in love with F1.”


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    Official statement from Mercedes F1 Team...  C7BEAB03-A272-4B0C-AF73-D01AEAA5AA36.gif

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    LOL!


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    I’m glad Mercedes is taking this position.  It’s better for the long term health of the sport and is the high road.  It also gives them moral high ground to ensure the FIA commission isn’t just for show. 


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    I think Mercedes are showing what they are made of. Its a very good decision that they accept the result, but at the end of the day everyone knows that Max was gifted this victory as he had no chance whatsoever to win this race otherwise... and everybody knows that there was a faulty call by Massi against the rules. At the same time Mercedes and Hamilton know that to win this WDC at court is BS. Very mature behaviour by them.

    It was a great season both drivers deserved the title and I cant wait for the next season!!!

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    Lots of good life lessons in this drama. Almost like a Hollywood movie…. As they say - any press is good press - and judging from our continued interest F1 will be the winner.  Masi is now F1’s Darth Vader. He must be back next year, they can’t kill him off. The rules and officials have become part of the game. Not too different from all other sports - take it from a Chiefs fan who has seen tons of calls go against us (don’t they all?)



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    That was oddest take I have read and has nothing to do with the actual real issues being discussed. Smiley

     


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    Full radio of Hamilton starting just before the SC:

     


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    Carlos Sainz had even better stuff radio-wise with his engineer regarding the restart.

     

    Now with Mercedes withdrawing, makes you wonder what kind of secret deal FIA made with them. See wording on Mercedes' much softer stance press release, they and the FIA are making up behind the scene. 

     


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    thuggy:

    That was oddest take I have read and has nothing to do with the actual real issues being discussed. Smiley

     

     

    It's written by someone who likes to bring race into everything and take pleasure of someone of colour losing.

    To me, and most of everyone else on Earth, Max and Lewis are just two racers, period. Just that one has a humble beginning and ended up successful, while the other is born with a silver spoon in his mouth and also succeeded. They both worked really hard but just took different path to success and both are at the top of the game as a result. 

     

     


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    Agreed, I looked up the "Author"... amongst the other odd items in addition to race are:  not believing in free speech, higher education (shocking I know), global warming and giving women the right to vote... now back to the topic on hand. Smiley


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    Whoopsy:
    thuggy:

    That was oddest take I have read and has nothing to do with the actual real issues being discussed. Smiley

     

     

    It's written by someone who likes to bring race into everything and take pleasure of someone of colour losing.

    To me, and most of everyone else on Earth, Max and Lewis are just two racers, period. Just that one has a humble beginning and ended up successful, while the other is born with a silver spoon in his mouth and also succeeded. They both worked really hard but just took different path to success and both are at the top of the game as a result. 

     

     

    It wasn't about someone of color losing but about Hamilton politicized racing by bringing unrelated issues to the forecourt.  As you have rightly pointed out, this is about Max and Lewis just being two racers; however, Lewis seems determined to bring other factors into it.  He has completely reshaped to the Mercedes-Benz team to follow Woke politics versus concentrate on racing.  


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    Yup... the Mercedes team that was so distracted that they produced a car and driver combination that relatively easily built two huge leads over Max and his Red Bull until the FIAsco. Smiley


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    This evening the FIA have their official prize giving ceremony 2021...  CC728175-19EB-4A81-8294-9590C8A82363.gif

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    ...who will receive the FIA Lifetime Achievement Award - perhaps as an early retirement gift? Smiley


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    thuggy:

    Yup... the Mercedes team that was so distracted that they produced a car and driver combination that relatively easily built two huge leads over Max and his Red Bull until the FIAsco. Smiley

     

    They got so distracted that they skipping building a car for 2021 and instead just recycled the 2020 car which was mostly a 2019. Smiley


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    So both Toto and Lewis won't be at the Gala tonight.

    Lewis is supposed to be required at the Gala as per the Sporting Code. 

    Makes you wonder how will FIA handle another mess. Will they sanction Lewis for missing the Gala? Or will they bend another rule and let this slide? Neither choice is a win for the FIA. 

    if they sanction Lewis, that shows the world that their rules are only bendable for 'other' teams. If they let it slide, then their own integrity is shattered even more than it already has 

    2021 F1 season will be remembered for FIA shooting their own foot multiple times and during all that mess, Max won his 1st WDC. 

    I wonder how much F1 and FIA dare to push Mercedes any further. I mean, they could jus say fuck it, we done, they weren't being fair to them and there is no point in staying. Overnight, for 2022, there will only be 9 teams and 2 of those be without engines last minute. Stakes are getting high quickly.

    As fro Hamilton. He really have done everything that needed to be done in F1. There is nothing else to prove. Everyone watching F1 can see his 8th got robbed by Masi and the FIA with some bendy rules.

    Pretty sure if he says he is hanging it up he would have no regrets. 

    Poor Russell however, he would suddenly be without a ride. Not to mention Norris' McLaren be without an engine. 

     


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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjTWjOcWYFA

    ^ Live streaming now..


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    Watch this instead.  https://youtu.be/3p2SGiosvv0 Mercedes-Benz Silver Arrows, a video from a few years ago. 


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    Whoopsy:

    So both Toto and Lewis won't be at the Gala tonight.

    Lewis is supposed to be required at the Gala as per the Sporting Code. 

    Makes you wonder how will FIA handle another mess. Will they sanction Lewis for missing the Gala? Or will they bend another rule and let this slide? Neither choice is a win for the FIA. 

    if they sanction Lewis, that shows the world that their rules are only bendable for 'other' teams. If they let it slide, then their own integrity is shattered even more than it already has 

    2021 F1 season will be remembered for FIA shooting their own foot multiple times and during all that mess, Max won his 1st WDC. 

     

     

    But the consensus is that Lewis is the classiest guy in the world. Surely he'll be there. Smiley


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    JoeRockhead:
    Whoopsy:

    So both Toto and Lewis won't be at the Gala tonight.

    Lewis is supposed to be required at the Gala as per the Sporting Code. 

    Makes you wonder how will FIA handle another mess. Will they sanction Lewis for missing the Gala? Or will they bend another rule and let this slide? Neither choice is a win for the FIA. 

    if they sanction Lewis, that shows the world that their rules are only bendable for 'other' teams. If they let it slide, then their own integrity is shattered even more than it already has 

    2021 F1 season will be remembered for FIA shooting their own foot multiple times and during all that mess, Max won his 1st WDC. 

     

     

    But the consensus is that Lewis is the classiest guy in the world. Surely he'll be there. Smiley

     

    Everyone has their limits. He literally got robbed blind. Plus, the news are still fresh. Had they attended, what do you think the reporters will question them about? It will only serves as an distraction away from Max's stage. 

     


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    In a way, by not attending and risking sanctions, this is the classiest act one can do. Tonight is Max's night, he doesn't want to steal the spotlight away from Max.

     


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    Whoopsy:

    In a way, by not attending and risking sanctions, this is the classiest act one can do. Tonight is Max's night, he doesn't want to steal the spotlight away from Max.

     

    Not the most brilliant way to spend his political capital. 


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    2021 FIA Personality of the Year is Lewis Hamilton...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

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    Leawood911:
    Whoopsy:

    In a way, by not attending and risking sanctions, this is the classiest act one can do. Tonight is Max's night, he doesn't want to steal the spotlight away from Max.

     

    Not the most brilliant way to spend his political capital. 

    He is a brilliant racer, best ever, doesn’t automatically means he is also the brightest person in the world however.


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    It was a nice gala without crying babies sir hams and oscar winning actor toto)))) i support their decisions - less methane and co2 into atmosphere. Ecology!


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    Wow, what would you have done, had Lewis won? 😅


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