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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Spyderidol:

    A little good news : VW Still More Popular Than GM, Chrysler

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/auto_industry/september_2015/vw_still_more_popular_than_gm_chrysler

    and Hitler is still more popular than Mussolini ...or ISIS over Al Queda .....doncha love consumer sentiment surveys 


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Spyderidol:

    A little good news : VW Still More Popular Than GM, Chrysler

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/auto_industry/september_2015/vw_still_more_popular_than_gm_chrysler

    Strange as it may seem, it's entirely possible that many of these American adults have not heard anything about Dieselgate (as it has quaintly been dubbed by the American press, beating out VWgate). On the other hand, perhaps it says more about Chrysler and GM than VW.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    In time of crisis, beggars cant be choosers. I'm sure they'll take any bit of good news after these last few day,


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    SciFrog:

    Mueller is confirmed as new CEO...

    It apparently won't be official until tomorrow.

    But he already can't resist smiling SmileySmiley:

    Mueller.JPG


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    fritz


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    What does this mean for Porsche if anything? 


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    I wish him luck. It's not a position I would like to be in.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    palenimbus:

    What does this mean for Porsche if anything? 

    Good Morning, Rip Van Winkle 


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    apias:
    Spyderidol:

    A little good news : VW Still More Popular Than GM, Chrysler

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/auto_industry/september_2015/vw_still_more_popular_than_gm_chrysler

    Strange as it may seem, it's entirely possible that many of these American adults have not heard anything about Dieselgate (as it has quaintly been dubbed by the American press, beating out VWgate). On the other hand, perhaps it says more about Chrysler and GM than VW.

    They should have done a survey on whether VW is more popular than the EPA. 
    The result might answer your implied question. Smiley


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    fritz


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    MKW:
    palenimbus:

    What does this mean for Porsche if anything? 

    Good Morning, Rip Van Winkle 

    I suspect Palenimbus' question refers to the implications of Mueller's departure from Porsche, not the diesel scandal.  Smiley


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    fritz


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Yes...ask the EPA about a muddy little river ...or travel expenses.angry


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    This represents a problem of a different sort, for Porsche -- from USA Today:

    The boss of Volkswagen's ultra-luxury Porsche brand is expected to be named CEO of the German automaker when the company's board meets Friday

    So, USA Today views Porsche as an ultra-luxury brand, not a sports car brand? yes 


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Spyderidol:

    I wish him luck. It's not a position I would like to be in.

    Yes, not an enviable position to assume given the circumstances. I wish him the best as well. Hopefully they'll announce soon who will replace him at Porsche.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    apias:

    This represents a problem of a different sort, for Porsche -- from USA Today:

    The boss of Volkswagen's ultra-luxury Porsche brand is expected to be named CEO of the German automaker when the company's board meets Friday

    So, USA Today views Porsche as an ultra-luxury brand, not a sports car brand? yes 

    That's OK. Porsche views USA Today as packaging material for household removals, not as a serious source of information.   Smiley


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    fritz


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Nordic bank bans traders from buying VW shares

    http://www.thelocal.se/20150924/nordic-bank-bans-traders-from-buying-vw-shares


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    fritz:
    apias:

    This represents a problem of a different sort, for Porsche -- from USA Today:

    The boss of Volkswagen's ultra-luxury Porsche brand is expected to be named CEO of the German automaker when the company's board meets Friday

    So, USA Today views Porsche as an ultra-luxury brand, not a sports car brand? yes 

    That's OK. Porsche views USA Today as packaging material for household removals, not as a serious source of information.   Smiley

    I thought they were hotel doormats? Smiley


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    JoeRockhead:
    fritz:
    apias:

    This represents a problem of a different sort, for Porsche -- from USA Today:

    The boss of Volkswagen's ultra-luxury Porsche brand is expected to be named CEO of the German automaker when the company's board meets Friday

    So, USA Today views Porsche as an ultra-luxury brand, not a sports car brand? yes 

    That's OK. Porsche views USA Today as packaging material for household removals, not as a serious source of information.   Smiley

    I thought they were hotel doormats? Smiley

    Do they still print it? I only see it in Google News results.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    fritz:
    apias:

    This represents a problem of a different sort, for Porsche -- from USA Today:

    The boss of Volkswagen's ultra-luxury Porsche brand is expected to be named CEO of the German automaker when the company's board meets Friday

    So, USA Today views Porsche as an ultra-luxury brand, not a sports car brand? yes 

    That's OK. Porsche views USA Today as packaging material for household removals, not as a serious source of information.   Smiley

    Can't blame them, Cayenne, Macan, Panamera are not by definition sports cars no matter how fast you make them.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Autocar are suggesting that Wolfgang Durheimer is favourite to take over at Porsche.

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/vw-emissions-scandal-muller-be-new-vw-ceo?utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=Enews%20bulletins&utm_content=link2_2_1&utm_source=20150924


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    apias:
    JoeRockhead:
    fritz:
    apias:

    This represents a problem of a different sort, for Porsche -- from USA Today:

    The boss of Volkswagen's ultra-luxury Porsche brand is expected to be named CEO of the German automaker when the company's board meets Friday

    So, USA Today views Porsche as an ultra-luxury brand, not a sports car brand? yes 

    That's OK. Porsche views USA Today as packaging material for household removals, not as a serious source of information.   Smiley

    I thought they were hotel doormats? Smiley

    Do they still print it? I only see it in Google News results.

    We do still print USA Today. Quite a lot in fact. Yes print is a declining source of revenue for us but that is where digital takes over. There are almost 90 local newspapers that are part of Gannett's business. USA Today is one of them and provides national and international news to the local papers. All of the local sites have web and native mobile applications. There's more than just the free newspaper we all get at hotels. 


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Perhaps you can raise this ultra-luxury brand vs. sports car brand issue with the editors? indecision


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    This is worth a read: https://www.facebook.com/groups/5508588715/permalink/10153206861743716/


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    What's the gist of it, for those of us who don't do Facebook?


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    It explains exactly what VW did as apposed to what is published in the ill informed mainstream media.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    apias:

    Perhaps you can raise this ultra-luxury brand vs. sports car brand issue with the editors? indecision

    I could and I probably should. I would wager this ultra-luxary brand statement is based on types of Porsche's seen in the garage . Most of them are Panamera, Cayenne and Macan. I have only seen three sports cars. One Boxster S and two 997's, one of which is mine. Smiley


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Did nick send you that?


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Winterkorn was known as a micro-manager.....he must have know about the ECU tampering to meet the emissions tests!


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    964C2:

    Winterkorn was known as a micro-manager.....he must have know about the ECU tampering to meet the emissions tests!

    I wonder if that could result in criminal charges, if it's proven that senior management authorized it.. Smiley


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    palenimbus:

    Did nick send you that?

    Smiley Smiley


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    JoeRockhead:
    964C2:

    Winterkorn was known as a micro-manager.....he must have know about the ECU tampering to meet the emissions tests!

    I wonder if that could result in criminal charges, if it's proven that senior management authorized it.. Smiley

    In the United States, the Department of Justice has started such an investigation into any potential criminal activity.  


     
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