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    Re: The 4th model is on its way ...

    I think your reasoning about the lower model is sound, guys. Guess its between a lux 4-door sedan or a 4-seater GT-coupe? I hope its the latter.

    Re: The 4th model is on its way ...

    Autocar have the 4th model on the front cover this week.

    Headlined as "Porsche's 928 is back, and this time it has 4 doors" they quote 500BHP V8 200mph Pounds72K and on sale 2007.

    My wife has told me to order one so as far as she is concerned it is a hit!

    You can read the article at www.autocarmag.com

    The editorial is very interesting and gives the thumbs up to the concept.

    I however will reserve judgement...

    P.

    Re: Reuters Story on Porsche's 4th model...

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    From a financial point of view Porsche obviously made the right decision with the Cayenne



    Yes and no, Don. I still think that the Cayenne draw some customers away from the 911 and even the Boxster but maybe (hopefully) I'm wrong. Because if I'm right, I don't think a 4th model would improve the sports car sales situation, making the 996 and even the Boxster sell slower and slower over the next few years, no matter if there will be a 997 and/or 987. I'm curious how many people own a 911 and a Cayenne. Most people I know exchanged their 911 for a Cayenne as a family car. Well, maybe people just have to find out that the Cayenne is no real substitute for a 911, at least I hope so.

    Re: Reuters Story on Porsche's 4th model...


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    I'm curious how many people own a 911 and a Cayenne. Most people I know exchanged their 911 for a Cayenne as a family car.

    Yes and No, RC, I think the cannibalization effect is very limited between the 2 models.

    By just looking at numbers, 911 sales aren't collapsing at all. They should this year (fiscal) be in line with last year which was by the way the 2nd best ever.

    We also have to remember the 996 is now in its last year of production basically. So it's quite "miraculous" to get towards the end of life of a model the 2nd best (ex aequo) year ever !!!!

    996 is an "atypical" case with sales in 2000/01 at 26,700 (4th best year), in 2001/02 32,300 (Best year ever), 2002/03 27,800 (2nd best year ever) and finally 2003/04 26,500-27,500 (3rd or 2nd ex aequo best year ever)...Normally car sales are reaching their peak after 3-4 years and then are declining very sharply...

    At the same time, Cayenne sales are excellent....

    You also have to bear in mind that over 50% of Cayenne buyers were NON Porsche drivers ....

    So all in all, I believe cannibalization is marginal. On the other hand, the risk is much higher with a 4th model being a GT 2+2 and a bit less with a 4 door coupe ...

    Let's hope that thanks to a very loyalty rate, Cayenne buyers who were not previously Porsche drivers will buy another Porsche and why not a sports car !!!!

    Re: The 4th model is on its way ...

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    You can read the article at www.autocarmag.com.



    That URL doesn't work for me. Is there an alternate?

    Re: Reuters Story on Porsche's 4th model...

    We own a 996 and the Cayenne S
    Its the perfect combination!!!!!!
    One day I drive the Cayenne the other day I drive the 996.
    But I would never change my 966 for a Cayenne
    The only reason I would charge the 996 to the Cayenne would be if you need a family car.
    So I not not see a reason why I would buy a 4th model Porsche GT 4x4

    Re: The 4th model is on its way ...

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    You can read the article at www.autocarmag.com.



    That URL doesn't work for me. Is there an alternate?



    Try it without the dot at the end: www.autocarmag.com
    Greetings,
    --Pierre

    Re: The 4th model is on its way ...

    Guys, the "lower" model WW referred to could always be the Boxster Coupe, it should cost less than the Boxster due to the lack of ragtop and associated mechanicals and electronics.

    The 4 seater sedan should be something on the 5-series level, if not even 7-series level. I agree that a 2-door 4 seater like the 6-series is not a good alternative. Sportier? Probably not (just look at the M5 ), practical, not as much... I'd rather see 4 doors.

    Time will tell...

    Re: The 4th model is on its way ...

    Quote:
    Try it without the dot at the end: www.autocarmag.com
    Greetings,
    --Pierre



    Now I feel kinda stupid. Thanks for being gentle with me.

     
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