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    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    Fritz,

    I am following your traces through the whole board. I guess I just respond to any of your answers...

    Family gave you a free hour in front of the computer?

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    never has a chevy made P and F guys so defensive, it's so highly amusing! glue on them hairpieces, it's gonna be bumpy!

    and you bogus dweebs commenting on z06 handling when the car hasnt shipped.

    open your minds and realise it's a new world and our P's and F's are overpriced and under deliver

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    The comments on the handling derive from the magazine critics that HAVE already driven it, and report the same numb and uncommunicative steering that already exists in the standard C6 (which I've already driven, and the steering and chassis communication absolutely blows). The handling is said to be otherworldly, but at the expense of real-world liveability, i.e. harsh. And if I know Chevy, and I have owned and DO own a ton of 'em, if the suspension is choppy and hard, the rest of the car will rattle like a chuckwagon within 20K miles. Which is fine, after all, whadaya want for a measely $65 grand??

    I'll give it its due, it's a remarkable performer, it gets the job done. But price is RELATIVE to the ENTIRE PACKAGE. We're discussing it as a total car, not just a stat sheet.

    Without driving it, my opinion is thus:

    Incredible performance
    Wanker styling
    Chevy interior
    Great buy
    Nice for a toy, probably a bit too hard-core for a driver

    Seeing that YOU have yet to drive the car, once you get it and put a few thou on the odometer, come back and give us some comments that have context. My prediction, given the cars you list such as the Boxster and the Ferrari, that you'll be overjoyed with the athletic ability, and underwhelmed by the intangibles that your other cars have in spades. Chevy doesn't even attempt that level of art in engineering, or craftsmanship, which is why they don't have to charge for it.

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    Annddddd ,, WERE OFF ...

    Rounnnd 333333333 ! ..

    throt ..

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

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    watt said:
    never has a chevy made P and F guys so defensive, it's so highly amusing! glue on them hairpieces, it's gonna be bumpy!

    and you bogus dweebs commenting on z06 handling when the car hasnt shipped.

    open your minds and realise it's a new world and our P's and F's are overpriced and under deliver



    Full head of hair, here.

    It's been funny to see the wanna be Ferrari guys buy ZO6's to flip for profit. Wonder what happened ? I'm already seeing guys trying to unload for $1- 3$k over and the car hasn't shipped yet. I thought they would bring like $10k over for a while. Maybe I'll get one if they'll sell for a few thousand under sticker.

    Never will get "defensive". I like them all. Ferrari, Porsche etc. I like the ZO6. Great deal. Cheap even. The fastest cheap quality car in the world.

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    Quote:
    watt said:
    never has a chevy made P and F guys so defensive, it's so highly amusing! glue on them hairpieces, it's gonna be bumpy!

    and you bogus dweebs commenting on z06 handling when the car hasnt shipped.

    open your minds and realise it's a new world and our P's and F's are overpriced and under deliver



    What glue do you recommend son ? ..

    throt..

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    Took this pic in April.
    Nice looking car especially the exact Ferrari's 360 replica headlights.

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    69bossnine said:
    Our collection is a mix of cars owned personally by me (the Boss 429, for instance, I own personally), cars owned personally by my father, and cars JOINTLY owned by us through our business (such as the GNX), that we are equal partners in. In total, between the two of us, we've got right at 150 vehicles.



    Do you ever give museum tours? What a great collection!

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    Come up on a weekday, and I'll give you a tour. If you drag me into work on a weekend, you'll have to buy me a few beers afterwards...

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    Quote:
    throt said:
    Annddddd ,, WERE OFF ...

    Rounnnd 333333333 ! ..

    throt ..



    I'm pleased to see you stuck around for this, throt.

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    These types of "performance on the cheap" debates always wind up degrading and degrading to absolutely silly-out-of-context comparisons, to the point where I just throw down the gauntlet, and let everyone know that I can build a rusty old AMC Gremlin using a crate motor, mini-tubs, 4-link and wheelie-bars, with a $15K budget, ugly as sin, that will absolutely blow the paint job off of any and all of the cars being argued about.

    Which usually illustrates perfectly the apples-to-oranges nonsense inherent in such debates.

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

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    Ferdie said:
    Fritz,

    I am following your traces through the whole board. I guess I just respond to any of your answers...

    Family gave you a free hour in front of the computer?



    One hour would not have been enough tonight, Ferdie.

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    Quote:
    69bossnine said:
    Come up on a weekday, and I'll give you a tour. If you drag me into work on a weekend, you'll have to buy me a few beers afterwards...



    Sounds like an open invitation.....Ocala is it?

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

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    STRADALE said:
    Took this pic in April.
    Nice looking car especially the exact Ferrari's 360 replica headlights.



    Nah, look at the two front ends. The Ferrari is FAR FAR FAR better design-wise (clean, smart, concise, tightly pulled together).

    The corvette has WAY tooooo much stuff going on. Curves, straight lines, creases, centerlines, trendy "pointy triangles.," I find the useless vent hole next to the badge especially messed up; is that the nose of some sort of snake? I guess there was some focus group need to make it look like an aggressive reptile (to make Viper fans get a rise?). Very bad design, too many elements in there. Silly-looking, like a kids toy.


    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    The new Vette looks great- it's an awesome car!

    I just can't believe they don't upgrade the interior.

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    Strad,

    Yes, and I have always thought of the Vette's tail as F-copycat design, especially the paired round lights.


    Still I am impressed with initial "official" car mag. reviews of the ZO6, but that is grain-of-salt doses of importance.

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

    lets face it the image problem with the vette is too much to deal with ..

    http://rapidshare.de/files/5333599/Ocarr_oea_1_....wmv.wmv.html

    Re: Vette Z06 vs 997S

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    MMD said:
    Quote:
    STRADALE said:
    Took this pic in April.
    Nice looking car especially the exact Ferrari's 360 replica headlights.



    Nah, look at the two front ends. The Ferrari is FAR FAR FAR better design-wise (clean, smart, concise, tightly pulled together).

    The corvette has WAY tooooo much stuff going on. Curves, straight lines, creases, centerlines, trendy "pointy triangles.," I find the useless vent hole next to the badge especially messed up; is that the nose of some sort of snake? I guess there was some focus group need to make it look like an aggressive reptile (to make Viper fans get a rise?). Very bad design, too many elements in there. Silly-looking, like a kids toy.





    I agree the styling isn't Ferrari but the car looks pretty cool imo. Especially in person. I could only imagine the changes that differentiate the ZO6 vs. the standard Vette are going to make standard Vette owners green w/ envy. The flared out panels, the wheels (which I like a lot) and huge tires. That 427 motor- Whew !! 997 vs. ZO6 the Porsche is the clear winner imo but if you only had $65k to work with and wanted a serious sports car would you buy anything else ? If so what ? I can't think of anything.

     
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