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    Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos

    intouch1:

    the rear looks horrendous....and th big porsche lettering makes it even worse.

     

     Smiley

    I knew the rear lights would turn out bad, so huge Smiley


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    Gnil:

    And the lettering has to be be deleted....it is probably for the Chinese market or other Easter European ones

    The large "PORSCHE" logo on Panamera and Cayenne is part of tradition BTW. Not that this makes it more attractive.

    1970_911T_new_pix_016.jpg


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    Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos

    Gnil:

    Can you elaborate ?

    I would of been interested in the hybrid too.... as it would be the only way my wife would be ok driving it Smiley

    How is the size compared to the old cayenne ?

     

    The new Cayenne has more interior room than the old one, just wait until you see it.

    I would go for the S because the Hybrid is more expensive, slower (accel, Vmax), technically more challenging (possible issues) and doesn't provide THE huge fuel saving capability I would expect from such a car. If it is true however that Swiss laws may favor Hybrids, get one. Otherwise, I would stay away from it because it doesn't improve performance.


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    reginos:
    Gnil:

    And the lettering has to be be deleted....it is probably for the Chinese market or other Easter European ones

    The large "PORSCHE" logo on Panamera and Cayenne is part of tradition BTW. Not that this makes it more attractive.

    1970_911T_new_pix_016.jpg

     

    Very old tradition which shouldn't have been revived. Smiley


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    Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos

    RC:
    Gnil:

    Can you elaborate ?

    I would of been interested in the hybrid too.... as it would be the only way my wife would be ok driving it Smiley

    How is the size compared to the old cayenne ?

     

    The new Cayenne has more interior room than the old one, just wait until you see it.

    I would go for the S because the Hybrid is more expensive, slower (accel, Vmax), technically more challenging (possible issues) and doesn't provide THE huge fuel saving capability I would expect from such a car. If it is true however that Swiss laws may favor Hybrids, get one. Otherwise, I would stay away from it because it doesn't improve performance.

    I will check it out next week at the Geneva show and compare it to the Touareg... Smiley
     


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    RC:

    I don't get it: does Porsche have a seperate design team which messes up the rear on the cars (e.g. Panamera) ?! 

     

    I also don't get that huge PORSCHE lettering on the rear, it looks horrible.


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    I was thinking the exact same thing!SmileySmiley First the 997.2 rear, then the Panamera, and now the Cayenne???

    The front is much better than I expected, they did a great job for a SUV, very Panameraish... but that REAR?Smiley And I can see the rear PORSCHE lettering factory delete option being a very popular one Smiley

    Also the interior looks like a winner as well, like in the Panamera.

    Overall I think it looks better than the first gen Cayenne did in its day. Very sporty looking which is what the firts gen needed. Looks like they did a good job inspite that rear.


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    Carlos from Spain:

     

    I was thinking the exact same thing! First the 997.2 rear, then the Panamera, and now the Cayenne???

    The front is much better than I expected, they did a great job for a SUV, very Panameraish... but that REAR?

     

    Don´t forget the Boxster and Cayman models, especially on the former the taillights are the worst modification to me. The pronounciation of curved shapes does neither fit the car´s driving character nor the facelifted front appearance.


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    RC:

     

    I guess Porsche didn't hear the bell...as we say here in Germany.

    If a customer like me buys a BMW instead, they should be very very concerned.

    Ha


    +1 +1 +1 !


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     I think the rear looks fantastic! you guys are all crazy 


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    palenimbus:

     I think the rear looks fantastic! you guys are all crazy 

     

    you must be working at the Porsche Design Team Smiley


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    He is from BW...who knows... 


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    Actually the PORSCHE lettering on the rear stopped in 1974 with the "G" Series (the one with the US bumpers) and was "revived" with the Panamera in 2009 or 35 years later ....

    I agree it's ugly but some emerging markets are requesting it and it is difficult to ignore over 1/4 of your unit sales and certainly MUCH MUCH more of your profits !!!! Money talks.

     

    Porsche_Sales_by region.jpg

     


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    Thanks for the statistics, very very interesting. 

    Biggest surprise for me is actually Latin America.

    Do you have something similar seperated by models sold ? (911, Cayenne, Panamera, etc.).

    Would be great and very insightful.


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    RC:

    Thanks for the statistics, very very interesting. 

    Biggest surprise for me is actually Latin America.

    Do you have something similar seperated by models sold ? (911, Cayenne, Panamera, etc.).

    Would be great and very insightful.

     

     

    Indeed very interesting!

    Latin America isnt a surprise, think about its sice - 2000 cars are not much compared to the size.

     


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    Gnil:

    I would of been interested in the hybrid too.... as it would be the only way my wife would be ok driving it Smiley

    I will check it out next week at the Geneva show and compare it to the Touareg... Smiley
     

     High Gnil.

    I have the same problem with my wife Smiley

    But I just made a comparison on the german configurator between the S and the hybrid and saw something that might be a deal breaker : the hybrid has no Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC), nor the Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV Plus).

    Carlos


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    Lars997:
    Enzo II:

    Manual

     

    Base V6 wheels

     

     

     

    I don't get it. Porsche sells their Premium entry cars recently with the most ugly rims imaginable. Think about the standard rims on the Panamera and Panamera S. And now this here, those are VW rims and not Porsche rims!


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    CarlosF:
    : the hybrid has no Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC), nor the Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV Plus).

    Carlos

     

    and there it goes.... I mean this is the tribute to a car which is nor Fish nor Meat! This are the dynamic drive options - you want to have them in order to make the car really sporty. And as the Hybrid is already overweighted, it would need those options more as any other model!

    The hybrid is still beta - basta!

     


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    Lars997:

     

    I just read in the configurator that you can have the Porsche Logo in black for 261,- € extra.... HAHA Smiley how stupid you should be Smiley

     

    And for 410,- € extra you can have the Porsche and Cayenne letters in all black SmileySmileySmileySmileySmiley

     

    For a piece of plastic which you can have on any other car for 5 Bugs!


    I should open a workshop and paint the letters black or red or what ever colour you want at half the price!!!


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    Smiley Smiley Smiley  ...  and  specially for Hybrid !


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    IMO the shape of the rear lights is OK to say the least. BUT the colour is very striking and contrast badly with any bodywork colour. They should offer a "Klarglasoptik" option similar to the 911.

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    Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos

    I fully agree.  Either a clear lens or darkened lens would fit much better.  I'm sure we'll see that as an option soon.

    When is GTS coming out.


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    Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos

    21 more pics on Autobild. Just click the images to see

    http://www.autobild.de/artikel/porsche-cayenne-ii-in-genf-2010_1131231.html?bild=20&now=72#mmg

    I'm not too convinced, couple of weird design cues in the panels..


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    Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos

    So I see where Piech's cost cutting has affected the Cayenne.

    They slap on a Hyundai rear from a few years ago, put some Porsche lettering and called it done.


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    Ron (Houston):

    I fully agree.  Either a clear lens or darkened lens would fit much better.  I'm sure we'll see that as an option soon.

    When is GTS coming out.

    Too much bright red Smiley

    cayenne light.JPG


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    intouch1:

    the rear looks horrendous....and th big porsche lettering makes it even worse.

    sorry, not  fan and even more happy bout my x6m choice now.


    1+Smiley

    Ok, the overall design seems to be ok exept of the rear and the turbo mouth.
    But now I feel happy twice with my decisions for the X5M.Smiley


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    Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos

     That's called cognitive dissonance. 

    Just kidding, of course.


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    Don´t like the rear lights either but otherwise it looks ok to me, especially the interior is a huge improvement. Rear valance seems to have no paint just like 03-04 cayennes, cheap. Will there be a GTS or a manual stick option for the S? Will be in the market when they have worked out the bugs, probably MY 2012.


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    reginos:
    Ron (Houston):

    I fully agree.  Either a clear lens or darkened lens would fit much better.  I'm sure we'll see that as an option soon.

    When is GTS coming out.

    Too much bright red Smiley

    cayenne light.JPG

    On this pic. it looks OK

    2011-Porsche-Cayenne-SUV-133.jpg


    Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos

     The original Cayenne was marketed as having serious off-road prowess.

     

    Hs that changed with the new models?

    Can one lock the differential?

    What's the max clearance, etc?


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    Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos

     I am so happy I didn't fall for the X5 ruse!

    New Turbo for me, it is a winner.

     

     


     
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