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conclusion..
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Will there be a power increase with the facelifted TT?
Dec 23, 2006 4:00:37 PM
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yarub1 said:
Will there be a power increase with the facelifted TT?
You gotta love the way those questions keep on coming, pissing owners of 997TT even more.
What about a facelifted 997turbo in six months with 550bhp and 5% cheaper than the actual one.![]()
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Dec 23, 2006 8:11:08 PM
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yarub1 said:
Will there be a power increase with the facelifted TT?
You gotta love the way those questions keep on coming, pissing owners of 997TT even more.
What about a facelifted 997turbo in six months with 550bhp and 5% cheaper than the actual one.![]()
What do you say darius? You likey ?![]()
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Wow,great Christmas news!!![]()
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Dec 23, 2006 9:31:22 PM
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Will there be a power increase with the facelifted TT?
You gotta love the way those questions keep on coming, pissing owners of 997TT even more.
What about a facelifted 997turbo in six months with 550bhp and 5% cheaper than the actual one.![]()
What do you say darius? You likey ?![]()
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Wow,great Christmas news!!![]()
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ADias said:
The 996 was introduced as MY99 and got a face lift MY02. On the same calendar the 997 was introduced as MY05 and will have a face lift as MY 08 (available sep 07. The Turbo should also inherent the changes as a matter of course, it all makes sense.
Besides, i do not understand the fuss about this. Many other marques introduce changes every single year, mostly minor as these ones.
Dec 24, 2006 4:21:56 AM
Dec 27, 2006 1:01:10 PM
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I still doubt that the facelift happens in Sept. 2007 (MY 2008) but anyway: the most "p.ss.d" owners will be 997 Carrera/Targa owners. Why? Because their cars get substantial more power and new engines (direct fuel injection is in the word) too. Not the same with the Turbo, power stays the same but powerkit will be introduced and of course there will be the GT2 too.
So no matter how we look at the facelift, Turbo owners shouldn't worry too much since the technology, with exception of PDK maybe, stays practically the same.
Dec 28, 2006 2:22:29 AM
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I still doubt that the facelift happens in Sept. 2007 (MY 2008) but anyway: the most "p.ss.d" owners will be 997 Carrera/Targa owners. Why? Because their cars get substantial more power and new engines (direct fuel injection is in the word) too. Not the same with the Turbo, power stays the same but powerkit will be introduced and of course there will be the GT2 too.
So no matter how we look at the facelift, Turbo owners shouldn't worry too much since the technology, with exception of PDK maybe, stays practically the same.
From recent reports the 997 facelift looks to be happening summer 2008. So given all Carrera models will get Direct Injection (DFI) engines which yield more BHP and 10% better fuel economy, why wouldn't Porsche introduce this to the Turbo also?
There's no way I would personally fork-out that much money for a new Turbo with the knowledge that this significant leap forward (Direct Injection and PDK) is within touching distance of being introduced.
10% better fuel economy alone is worth waiting for IMHO. Especially here in the UK where fuel is so crazy expensive (eg. I spend Pounds250 ($500) in petrol for every 1000 miles I do in my C2S) and the Politicians bring in more and more taxes on thirsty cars. If Porsche CAN make a car more fuel efficient (assuming nothing is sacrificed in terms of buyers requirements) then they SHOULD!
If they don't introduce this technology in the facelift 997 then I assume we will all have to wait for the 998 Turbo released around 2012. This seems like a crazy long time to me given the technology seems already to be available in the new Cayenne...
Dec 28, 2006 2:34:53 PM
Dec 28, 2006 4:40:46 PM
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Turbo Al said:
The way I view ANY 911Turbo is:
1. It is meant to be driven WITHOUT regard to fuel "economy."Any car that is engineered to make 600+ horsepower (even if marketing trumps engineering and limits its output to alot less) and can run the 1/4 in 11 seconds or less isn't manufactured, purchased and driven with fuel consumption as a serious consideration. If miles-per-gallon (or liters-per-km) are important, then one might as well get a VW Jetta 4-banger.
2. DI's impact on the Turbo's power is relatively marginal. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm denigrating the concept, but in terms of power gains, a similar increase on a Turbo could be had simply by tweaking the boost by 0.1-0.2BAR.
In other words, like all else in technological improvements to the combustion engine and its application to the automobile, I endorse the concept of DI. I just wouldn't rely alone on its availability or not to determine a purchase decision of a 911Turbo, especially when performance considerations are prime-which they usually are to 911Turbo buyers.
PDK (or even DSG) is another matter, unless you (like alot of us here) enjoy the involvement of using a manual with a stick (not that this is better or worse than choosing an automated tranny, just personal preference). For those automated tranny options, perhaps an extra year or two will be worth the wait....![]()
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