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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    palenimbus:

    All the major markets sans china are at stagnent growth. Australia would be a minor market especially with their high taxes on import cars.


    You are absolutely correct there.  We only have 21m people in this country, so taxes or not, this will always be a small market.


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Rich C (UK):

    UK Prices


    911 Carrera    £71,449.00 (inc. VAT at 20%)   (was 67,270)
    911 Carrera S    £81,242.00 (inc. VAT at 20%) (was 76,172)

     

    brave indeed, wonder how the base specifications have changed...


    On the standard spec, I found the below on http://www.netcarshow.com/porsche/2013-911_carrera/ 

    Would be nice if that standard equipment would also apply to Germany.

     

    In the UK from December 2011

    The new Porsche 911 Carrera celebrates its world premiere at the 2011 IAA Frankfurt Motor Show and the new 911 models will be in UK Porsche Centres from December 17 2011.

    The Porsche 911 Carrera is priced from £71,449 and the Porsche 911 Carrera S is priced from £81,242. Standard equipment on all models is leather interior, sports seats, automatic climate control, Bi-Xenon headlights, 7-inch colour touch-screen Porsche Communication Management with satellite navigation, a universal audio interface offering MP3 connectivity, Porsche Stability Management (PSM) and a three year warranty.

    The Carrera S adds 20-inch alloy wheels, Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) and Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) with rear limited slip differential, in addition to the power advantage of the larger 3.8-litre engine.

    Fitted to every 911 is a Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (VTS), a sophisticated vehicle security package approved to Thatcham Category 5 standard, and customers will also be able to explore the potential of their new car by participating in a complimentary course at the Porsche Experience Centre, Silverstone.


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    I received a mail shot from my dealer which has this small pic of a bi-color interior in black and grey. Has anyone got a larger version of this pic?

    Bicolour interior 2.JPG

     


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Autoguide still didn't apologize... 

    http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/08/2012-porsche-911-991-photos-leaked-sort-of.html


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    So...when we will able to see some "fresh" pic's?? Perhaps somebody have something to share? Rossi?


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     Autocar still saying that width will be 1873mm... 

    But are this the pics for press release? the same leaked pics? Smiley 


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Same picture....angle and color little bit changed

    renn.jpg


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    I am not rossi, but this will help little bit...

     


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    WOW!!! WTF man?!?! Where did you get it??

    Looks amazing! Thank's


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     pfffffft, we don't want them since you're not rossi..

    Just kidding, thanks for the new pics!


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Ferdie:

    Is there any explanation how the 7-speed manual is going to be controlled?

    Manually?   Smiley

    Do you mean the shape of the shift gate or the type of shift linkage (cable, rod)? 

     


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    WAY:

    ...

    Anyway back onto the car itself.  I wonder why they have developed PDCC for the Carrera S?  I mean, PDCC is fantastic on SUVs (like on our X5M) and big heavy sedans where roll is part of the game, but on a relatively light weight sports car?  Is it necessary?  I don't ever recall any of my past and current Porsches suffering from massive roll issue!  I guess it is ok if it doens't add weight to the car, but I am guessing it would add quite a bit?

     

    PDCC is not only about reducing roll angles during cornering. Depending on bandwidth and tuning, it could be used to do a couple of additional (more important) things:

    • Reduce single wheel bump stiffness for added comfort (it's effectively like "turning off" the roll bar when a single wheel hits a bump
    • Dynamically adjusting roll stiffness during cornering (this is like playing with roll bar stiffness in the middle of a turn!)

    Kamal 


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    KresoF1:

     

     

     

     

     Nice image.  Smiley


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    RC:

    Autoguide still didn't apologize... 

    http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/08/2012-porsche-911-991-photos-leaked-sort-of.html

     Not only are they clueless saying that its a photoshop, but that spanish site that they say they appeared in, is the site were I posted them AFTER they were posted here in Rennteam, it was in Rennteam as always were they scoop appeared first, thats two out of two they got worng. They must be feeloing pretty stupid right now...


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    BlackOctober:

    WOW!!! WTF man?!?! Where did you get it??

     

    Wrong question Smiley Right question would be: do you have any more of that to share with us ?? Smiley


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    fritz:
    KresoF1:

     

     

     

     

     Nice image.  Smiley

    Is this the PTRV option? Porsche Transparent Rear View Smiley


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     Thanks KresoF1!!

     

     


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    fritz:

    Do you mean the shape of the shift gate or the type of shift linkage (cable, rod)? 


    How is the seventh gear selected, mechanically or electronically? Still considering those "nine elves" for that... Smiley

    Thanks for the additional pictures, Kreso!
     


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     Are rennteam members now also "teasing" photos 

    Common, release them all 


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    The sunroof looks like..    


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    reginos:
    fritz:
    KresoF1:

     

     

     Nice image.  Smiley

    Is this the PTRV option? Porsche Transparent Rear View Smiley

    Yes, just one more to rise the base price Smiley


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     It looks like the higher base prices reflect a more sensible standard equipment level (Xenon, Nav, etc are now standard)


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Ferdie:

    Is there any explanation how the 7-speed manual is going to be controlled?


    Just like a 6 manual with a 7th gear, right and up on the gearlever, opposite the Reverse gear.

    It's just a gear to consume less on the motorway.

     


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     

    I am amazed with the pics

    the car will be very popular I think

    improvement over 997.2


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Futch:
    Ferdie:

    Is there any explanation how the 7-speed manual is going to be controlled?


    Just like a 6 manual with a 7th gear, right and up on the gearlever, opposite the Reverse gear.

    It's just a gear to consume less on the motorway.

     

    I wonder at what rpm the driver will be able to select 7th in the manual box and save fuel.

    In the PDK the electronics allow 7th from very low revs.


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     More:


    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    I have to laugh about the fuel consumption claim: My Carrera GTS Cabriolet eats up to 21 l / 100 km. My average fuel consumption (mostly city but some Autobahn too) is 19.6 l / 100 km right now (Sport Plus active all the time, PDK in manual mode) and even with Sport Plus turned off and PDK in auto mode, I never got below 15 l / 100 km. While I don't really care about fuel consumption on my cars, these (low) claims can be very misleading. 

    The only car(s) impressing me regarding fuel consumption were the Q5 TDi (the 170 hp version) and a BMW 3 series Diesel Coupe (not sure what engine but I think it was the 330d with 245 hp). The Q5 Diesel consumption was 9 l / 100 km, despite the fully loaded car (luggage, four persons) and the BMW 3 series Diesel Couple had 8 l / 100 km. I wasn't really trying to save fuel on both, impressive. I also once drove a X6 35d to Austria and back and the average Diesel consumption was 10 l / 100 km, fully loaded car and Autobahn speeds included.

    So while Porsche's claims sound amazing, they aren't really practicable on a sports car.


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    That interior looks a lot better in a dark colour..(apart for the Nokia style chrome accents to the buttons)


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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...


    Futch:
    Ferdie:

    Is there any explanation how the 7-speed manual is going to be controlled?


    Just like a 6 manual with a 7th gear, right and up on the gearlever, opposite the Reverse gear.

     

    Carrara:


    Thanks, guys... should be clear now. Is there additional resistance needed to put in 7th or does it shift as any normal gear? Just curious how easy it is to get confused.


     
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