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    Spotted @ Nürburgring


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    Lovely - thanks for posting!! Did you take any more pics?

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    You see that is Walter Röhrl in the background, with the bottle!
    -Joost-

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    Porker... Thank you !!! This car just rocks!!

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    BTW, looks like the cage is missing?

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    But , isn' it the car color of the German Police cars ?

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    Joost said:
    You see that is Walter Röhrl in the background, with the bottle!
    -Joost-



    Yep, he was bought by porsche a long time ago. It's like he's coming for free with every new car porsche introduce. Get a life walter.

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    Here are a few more of the Viper green car Walter had at the Nurburgring

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    another

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    amazon said:
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    Joost said:
    You see that is Walter Röhrl in the background, with the bottle!
    -Joost-



    Yep, he was bought by porsche a long time ago. It's like he's coming for free with every new car porsche introduce. Get a life walter.



    I think he HAS a life and a very nice one to boot.

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    Can you he please stop leaning on the wing

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    rhino said:
    Can you he please stop leaning on the wing


    Don't worry, those things have to be pretty strong to survive 190mph winds

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    amazon said:
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    Joost said:
    You see that is Walter Röhrl in the background, with the bottle!
    -Joost-



    Yep, he was bought by porsche a long time ago. It's like he's coming for free with every new car porsche introduce. Get a life walter.



    yea, it must be SUCH a hard life test driving porsches for a living. man, Walter is such a loser!

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    I hate the u can't see the exhaust in the pic.
    I love the dual center exhaust.

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    Why overpriced? The 996 GT3 wasn't overpriced compared to an equivalent Carrera with upgrades.

    The 997 GT3 seems like a bargain compared to a 997S with X51. In my humble.

    The RS doesn't seem more expensive than a 4S over an S.

    It all seems to line up. I guess if you think an US$80K+ Carrera S is expensive, then the whole line is expensive.

    If you really want to think about an expensive Porsche, look at some of the asking prices on the 993 Turbo S ... !


    Cheers,

    ps. That car in the photo doesn't seem to quite right (tinted windows? can't see the roll bar, can see the backs of both seats, not contrast painted wheels) but it is a wide body with apparently the correct rear cover.

    Then again, maybe this is very close to the US spec car ... groan ... basically delete everything from the RS except the badges ... :|

    Thinking about pricing, I wonder what a new RSR will cost?



    I disagree especially if you live in the US. The RS will be priced in a bracket very close to the turbo (aprox 122k USD) will have no roll cage, no CF seats, does not come with standard ceramic brakes. What are you paying aprox 15k dollars for? A carbon fibre wing, a 4S widebody, improved rear suspension struts (supposedly), 20 kilos and cool color/wheel combos? Furthermore, it will have a sunroof ?

    US Market got screwed.


    I don't know the exact details on what the US market will get for the RS -- until PCNA really defines the car, who knows? But there's no question the idea of the ultimate lightweight naturally aspirated Porsche having a sunroof is all that needs to be said to justify the conclusion that the US Porsche track driving enthusiast is not getting a fair deal.

    I ordered a GT3 over two years ago -- before it existed for all intents -- and have seen it slip and side ever since. I had a #1 spot 997S ordered with sunroof delete but cancelled when the order was accepeted and then rejected because somewhere between PCNA and PCAG, option 652 became "verbotten." (sp?)
    Anyway, I dropped the 997S order with a note to the selling dealer saying "honor the 652 and I'll pay MSRP." No dice for about two years now ... : )
    So I held fast on my GT3 order, knowing the car will arrive with a sunroof. I think I'll unceremoniously remove the sunroof and fit a blank. If I keep the car after the RS arrives, I'll have the roof sealed and painted.
    As for pricing, I think if you take a 997C2S and 997C4S the premium for the basically "RS you have when you're not having an RS" the pricing is not unrealistic -- and this is a car that will contend with the likes of the 430CS costing about 50%. All the add-on stuff (seats, fire-x, cage, light skin panels and bumper covers) might cost another $20K after-market. So there's a $20K premium to get the sunroof-ectomy and bolt in the safety gear. I think that's not sufficiently distasteful to stop me getting an RS if that rear suspension is as great as I hear it is. If anything, the US is getting a serious race car with a detuned engine and a street car warranty. Now, if they made a US-spec 3.8 dry sump 480hp RS, I think that would be worth an even greater premium, sunroof or no.
    Anyway, Porsche has lost the plot (as I tried to illustrate in my earlier post) on price points and I full well expect them to do another 965-993 price correction with the advant of a new model, be it the 998 or whatever number shows up next.
    Given the massive profits at Porsche, maybe they can afford to go back to Peugeot now and ask for a friendly favour to allow Porsche to sell a 901. what's the next big calendar anniversary for Porsche? Could they have the successor to the 998 ready and call it the 901? I think they'll be so busy making the M5 ... err ... I mean the Panamerica ... in the VW factory they won't have the bandwidth to do anything else until they sell that car.

    Anyway, back to your link of thought, I just don't see how the GT3 or the RS could be seriouly priced any cheaper -- Porsche has too many models stacked under those price points. If a 997S with X51 costs more than a GT3, you know they have pricing problems. And the Turbo is a bargain of sorts (still cheaper than a '97 Turbo S for $165K in ten year-old pre-irrational-exuberance tech-deflation money. So the 997 Turbo isn't expensive, but it has to stay in range for a car that's 50-100hp below some cars around that price point. Will the GT2 be 600hp, if not, it has price point versus HP issues? And if it does turn big ponies, where would Porsche put the 2x more expensive C-GT? They've dug themselves into a sequence of tight squeezes. Not a pretty picture.
    I'm wondering if the GT2 will be 550hp or less but cost almost $100K more than a Ford GT ... and more than a Ferrari ... it's just very hard to nail these prices all to the same scale and make sense of it.

    But if the 996 GT3 cost 100-ish and the 997 -- three years later -- costs 110-ish, that doesn't seem to be the weak value proposition in all these product price tiers.



    I agree with you on the price bracketing. The GT3 is actually somewhat of a bargain in my opinion.

    However, because Porsche is so profit oriented and it doesn't want to adhere to separate crash test standards for any 997 models, yielding no sunroof delete options on track cars (GT3s/RSs), the issue is not about how much you pay but what you are paying for.

    It's almost tantamount to the lack of -20mm suspension on 997 models in the US, but far more egregious, in my opinion, especially towards Porsche's most loyal and knowledgable base.

    Furthermore, with the GT3RS, if the car comes with no CF seats, no rollcage etc, then what exactly will the US RS buyer be paying all this money for? Viper Green and a 4S ass?

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    This must be a US spec car. Notice there is no roll cage in Walters car at the ring!

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    how can you NOT want this car in Lime Green!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is f-cking AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! too bad around where I live I'd get killed on the re-sale :-( otherwise it would be out with my 997 C2S Cab. and in with the GT3 RS Lime Green... God Damn it's HOT!

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    Marwan Arakji said:
    too bad around where I live I'd get killed on the re-sale



    Getting Killed on resale is the least of your problems where you live lol

     
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