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    Re: Gallardo MY08

    Standard brakes are pretty good. You may also feel initial lack of bite but, they are powerfull enough. Only when under very heavy usage(more then 5laps on the race track or very spirited driving downhill on some Swiss Alps passage) they use some power and pedel travel become longer as well as softening of pedal feel...

    Ceramics do not have any of this shortcoming, in fact on recent Gallardo Superleggera press launch in Phoenix some journalist did more then 20 laps(!!) without any difference in brake feel or power. Some of them actually almost overheated the engine, but brakes were as new...

    Re: Gallardo MY08

    on those pics, compared to the ceramics, the steel brakes looks tiny..

    Re: Gallardo MY08

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    dhayek said:
    on those pics, compared to the ceramics, the steel brakes looks tiny..



    I agree! Since both fronts and rears are 380mm/6caliper they are indeed way bigger then standard Gallardo brakes(365mm/8caliper fronts + 335mm/4caliper rears).

    BTW, since both fronts and rears are the same size wieght saving is only around 10kg. Not 20kg as on F430 or 997tt...

    Re: Gallardo MY08

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    KresoF1 said:
    I agree! Since both fronts and rears are 380mm/6caliper they are indeed way bigger then standard Gallardo brakes(365mm/8caliper fronts + 335mm/4caliper rears).

    BTW, since both fronts and rears are the same size wieght saving is only around 10kg. Not 20kg as on F430 or 997tt...



    Sure about these numbers?

    The standard brakes of the F430 are only 330mm all around, CCM is 380 front and 360 rear.
    Turbo has 350 all around, with PCCB 380 front and 360 rear same as the Ferrari.

    So weight saving at these cars should be different.

    Re: Gallardo MY08

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    KresoF1 said:
    Ceramics do not have any of this shortcoming, in fact on recent Gallardo Superleggera press launch in Phoenix some journalist did more then 20 laps(!!) without any difference in brake feel or power. Some of them actually almost overheated the engine, but brakes were as new...



    Maybe that journalist did not drive the car as hard as the Edmunds journalist did:

    Meanwhile, the Superleggera's carbon-ceramic brakes bite with shocking effectiveness in the first inch or so of pedal travel, and this means they are often quite graceless at first. But once we sensitized to the pedal action, these brakes inspired wonderful confidence. There was noticeable fade after repeated hard laps, but the difference was never enough to slow our progress.

    Although, we do not know if the fade is fluid fade or pad fade.

    Source: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=120345

    And this review of the MY06 from Evo is not good regarding the iron brakes:

    As ever with the Gallardo, the brakes come in for criticism. Not for their lack of staying power, as the roads here are fast and flowing rather than tight and twisty, but for the initial lack of feel and pedal travel, making smooth driving, not to mention effective heel-and-toeing, less than intuitive. Again, you do learn to compensate with time and familiarity, but it could be better.

    Source: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:nfZ...;cd=4&gl=us

    Has Lambo reduced the iron brake pedal travel for MY07?

    Perhaps the 997 C4S with either iron or ceramic brakes would be a more satisfying car. If Porsche made a C4S and C4S cabriolet with the GT3 engine and exhaust, the Gallardo would have better competition.

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    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    I agree! Since both fronts and rears are 380mm/6caliper they are indeed way bigger then standard Gallardo brakes(365mm/8caliper fronts + 335mm/4caliper rears).

    BTW, since both fronts and rears are the same size wieght saving is only around 10kg. Not 20kg as on F430 or 997tt...



    Sure about these numbers?

    The standard brakes of the F430 are only 330mm all around, CCM is 380 front and 360 rear.
    Turbo has 350 all around, with PCCB 380 front and 360 rear same as the Ferrari.

    So weight saving at these cars should be different.



    997 turbo Ceramics are 380mm/6caliper fronts and 350mm/4caliper rears(not 360mm rears). F430 CCM are the same size-check it out.

    Regarding weight savings-Porsche claim 20kg's, Ferrari says "around 20kg's" and Lamborghini says "cca 10kg's".

    Re: Gallardo MY08

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    KresoF1 said:
    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    I agree! Since both fronts and rears are 380mm/6caliper they are indeed way bigger then standard Gallardo brakes(365mm/8caliper fronts + 335mm/4caliper rears).

    BTW, since both fronts and rears are the same size wieght saving is only around 10kg. Not 20kg as on F430 or 997tt...



    Sure about these numbers?

    The standard brakes of the F430 are only 330mm all around, CCM is 380 front and 360 rear.
    Turbo has 350 all around, with PCCB 380 front and 360 rear same as the Ferrari.

    So weight saving at these cars should be different.



    997 turbo Ceramics are 380mm/6caliper fronts and 350mm/4caliper rears(not 360mm rears). F430 CCM are the same size-check it out.

    Regarding weight savings-Porsche claim 20kg's, Ferrari says "around 20kg's" and Lamborghini says "cca 10kg's".



    Rear CCM of the F430 are definitely 360mm.

    Re: Gallardo MY08

    Dimitri, this one is for you!(Sorry Dimitri, I could not help myself!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZfKSYZXScc

    Akon-Smack that

    Akon
    Slim Shady
    I see the one
    cuz she be that lady

    I feel you creepin', I can see you from my shadow.
    Wanna jump up in my Lamborghini Gallardo.
    Maybe go to my place and just kick it, like Taebo.
    And possibly bend you over.
    Look back and watch me
    smack that, all on the floor,
    smack that, give me some more,
    smack that, 'till you get sore
    smack that, oooh.
    smack that, all on the floor,
    smack that, give me some more,
    smack that, 'till you get sore,
    smack that, oooh.

    Up front style. Ready to attack now.
    Pull in the parking lot slow with the lack down.
    Convicts got the whole thing packed down.
    Step in the club. The wardrobe intact now.
    I feel it. Go on and crack now.
    Ooh, I see it. Don't let back now.
    Im'a call her. Then I put the mack down.
    Money? No problem. Pocket full of that now.

    I feel you creepin', I can see you from my shadow.
    Wanna jump up in my Lamborghini Gallardo.
    Maybe go to my place and just kick it, like Taebo.
    And possibly bend you over.
    Look back and watch me
    smack that, all on the floor,
    smack that, give me some more,
    smack that, 'till you get sore
    smack that, oooh.
    smack that, all on the floor,
    smack that, give me some more,
    smack that, 'till you get sore,
    smack that, oooh.

    Ooh! Looks like another club banger.
    They better hang on.
    When I throw this thang on.
    Get a little drink on. They goin' flip.
    [ these lyrics found on http://www.completealbumlyrics.com ]
    For this Akon [beep]. You can bank on it.
    Pedicure, manicure, kitty cat claws.
    The way she climbs up and down them poles.
    Lookin' like one of them Pretty Cat Dolls.
    Tryna hold my woody back through my drawers.
    Steps off stage, didn't think I saw her.
    Creeps up behind me and she's like, you're -
    I'm like, yeah I know, let's cut to the chase.
    No time to waste. Back to my place.
    Plus from the club to the crib's like a mile away.
    Or more like a palace, shall I say.
    And plus I got a pal. Every gal is game.
    In fact he's the one singing the song that's playing!
    (Akon!)

    I feel you creepin', I can see you from my shadow.
    Wanna jump up in my Lamborghini Gallardo.
    Maybe go to my place and just kick it, like Taebo.
    And possibly bend you over.
    Look back and watch me
    smack that, all on the floor,
    smack that, give me some more,
    smack that, 'till you get sore
    smack that, oooh.
    smack that, all on the floor,
    smack that, give me some more,
    smack that, 'till you get sore,
    smack that, oooh

    Eminem's rollin', D an' them rollin'.
    Boo an' Oh Marvelous an' them rollin'.
    Women just hoin'.
    Big booty rollin'.
    Soon I be all in them an' throwin D.
    Hittin' no less than 3.
    Block will style like wee, wee.
    Girl, I can tell you want me, 'cause lately.

    I feel you creepin', I can see you from my shadow.
    Wanna jump up in my Lamborghini Gallardo.
    Maybe go to my place and just kick it, like Taebo.
    And possibly bend you over.
    Look back and watch me
    smack that, all on the floor,
    smack that, give me some more,
    smack that, 'till you get sore
    smack that, oooh.
    smack that, all on the floor,
    smack that, give me some more,
    smack that, 'till you get sore,
    smack that, oooh.

    Re: Gallardo MY08

    Damn , i cannot imagine if i hear this song from inside of a Gallardo
    Damn
    A real BS song

    Re: Gallardo MY08

    Quote:
    VGA18 said:
    Damn , i cannot imagine if i hear this song from inside of a Gallardo
    Damn
    A real BS song



    Caghan,

    It was a joke...

    BTW, I do not like R'n'B and Rap music. And this song is well...not my cup of tea. But, it was(is) a huge hit in USA.

    Re: Gallardo MY08

    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    Quote:
    VGA18 said:
    Damn , i cannot imagine if i hear this song from inside of a Gallardo
    Damn
    A real BS song


    But, it was(is) a huge hit in USA.



    Unsurprisingly ...

    Re: Gallardo MY08

    i know the song kreso.. thanks for the tought!

     
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