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    DIY oil change - murphey's law

    I am not a total [beep], but sometimes I feel like one. Or maybe I am an [beep].

    I want to change my own oil for several reasons, but one of my main reasons was that I wanted to verify that my oil level indicator in the car was working properly. Reason that I need to know: My indicator has always shown my level at the "top" bar. I read threads about Porsche's burning oil and many have to add oil, so I have been slightly suspicious of my indicator. I want to prove that 9 quarts came out when I drained the oil.

    My background: This is my first Porsche; I am age 47; I have been working on cars since I was 15 and have an average mechanical aptitude. I have always been interested in saving money so I have changed out parts on cars till I was in my late 20's. I quit working on cars other than doing simple stuff like changing brakes and oil.

    Fast forward.

    I read OCBen's DIY oil change and assembled all of the ingredients for a proper oil change. One of my new items I had to purchase was a larger oil reservoir. I think my old one might have worked, but it would have been a challenge emptying it with oil up to the brim. So I bought a new one - but this one was fancier. It was a rectangular totally closed container that laid on it's side with a hole which would allow the oil to spill into the container. The idea is good, however the oil draining from the sump easily exceeds the flow of the oil into the reservoir. I don't have to tell you what happened next.

    Anyway, as oil is spilling and running everywhere, I quickly grab my old oil pan and place it on top of this piece of $hit oil pan and capture what didn't already spill out.

    So I clean up what I can, regroup and complete the draining part and filter change.

    This is when I get nervous. I located the car on my steepest part of the driveway, so it would be level on the ramps. However the car was not quite level. The car was leaning a little towards the front (the front was lower). So I am not sure if I left any old oil in the engine; hence I am not sure how much to put in. I captured 6 quarts and I know I spilled some so I put in another quart. I decide that I can run the motor to pull it off the ramps since I have minimum 7 quarts. I start the engine with a slight pause on oil press. Oil press comes up and I drive off the ramps into my garage to seek a level surface. I wait the 30 minutes and check the level (which is low). I add a 1/2 qt, start it up for 10-30 secs, and wait another 30 minutes. I repeated this step until I got to the proper level.

    Anyway, I will search the auto parts stores and find a larger oil change pan for my next oil change. Unfortunately - things don't always go "according to plan".

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    At least you're done now. I can imagine the panic.

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    It's always the way, and it's always when you try something new - at least no damage done, that's the main thing. It's how you recover from an 'Oh crap' moment that counts. Thanks for posting!

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    Congratulations!! Welcome to our Ex-goo-sive Club!

    Bathing in oil is a tradition for Porsche DIY oil changes!

    Consider yourself anointed (literally and figuratively).

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=anointed


    BTW, if you ever OVERfill I can tell you a way to let a little oil out without disaster. DEFinitely a test of will and nerve.

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    Quote:
    jplanaux said:
    I am not a total [beep], but sometimes I feel like one. Or maybe I am an [beep].

    I want to change my own oil for several reasons, but one of my main reasons was that I wanted to verify that my oil level indicator in the car was working properly. Reason that I need to know: My indicator has always shown my level at the "top" bar. I read threads about Porsche's burning oil and many have to add oil, so I have been slightly suspicious of my indicator. I want to prove that 9 quarts came out when I drained the oil.

    My background: This is my first Porsche; I am age 47; I have been working on cars since I was 15 and have an average mechanical aptitude. I have always been interested in saving money so I have changed out parts on cars till I was in my late 20's. I quit working on cars other than doing simple stuff like changing brakes and oil.

    Fast forward.

    I read OCBen's DIY oil change and assembled all of the ingredients for a proper oil change. One of my new items I had to purchase was a larger oil reservoir. I think my old one might have worked, but it would have been a challenge emptying it with oil up to the brim. So I bought a new one - but this one was fancier. It was a rectangular totally closed container that laid on it's side with a hole which would allow the oil to spill into the container. The idea is good, however the oil draining from the sump easily exceeds the flow of the oil into the reservoir. I don't have to tell you what happened next.

    Anyway, as oil is spilling and running everywhere, I quickly grab my old oil pan and place it on top of this piece of $hit oil pan and capture what didn't already spill out.

    So I clean up what I can, regroup and complete the draining part and filter change.

    This is when I get nervous. I located the car on my steepest part of the driveway, so it would be level on the ramps. However the car was not quite level. The car was leaning a little towards the front (the front was lower). So I am not sure if I left any old oil in the engine; hence I am not sure how much to put in. I captured 6 quarts and I know I spilled some so I put in another quart. I decide that I can run the motor to pull it off the ramps since I have minimum 7 quarts. I start the engine with a slight pause on oil press. Oil press comes up and I drive off the ramps into my garage to seek a level surface. I wait the 30 minutes and check the level (which is low). I add a 1/2 qt, start it up for 10-30 secs, and wait another 30 minutes. I repeated this step until I got to the proper level.

    Anyway, I will search the auto parts stores and find a larger oil change pan for my next oil change. Unfortunately - things don't always go "according to plan".



    I read on one site (maybe Rennteam.com) that you cannot drain all the oil. Of the 9.5 U.S. quarts, you cannot drain all of it as some stays in the oil cooler (up front) and related oil lines while changing the oil. If this is true, you cannot drain all 9.5 quarts - maybe you drained the most possibly in your change. The dealer probably cannot do much better than you did, only the mechanic doing it is not likely to spill the drain oil all over himself of the floor of the service bay as they have a large drainage container.

    Hope you remembered to get the gasket (metal, I think, and if I remember correctly, you have to replace this during an oil and filter change) to replace the old one when you change the oil.

    You can save a chunk of money by doing this yourself, but you (unless you have one of those computer programs to check the engine codes) may not be getting the full service you would get at a dealer. Someone on this site suggested I get a software package (for PC's only, not Mac's) that could be used to check the codes and reset one's that were tripped by some engine/car condition. It ran about $250 or so, and it looked like it would pay for itself.

    The software is called Durametric, and can be bought at http://www.durametric.com/ .

    I haven't bought it yet, but given that I am going to buy a new computer soon, I thought I might get that package and load it onto my current PC/Windows XP based machine so as to be able to run diagnostics on my 997S. Given the price, it may be a cheap solution if it really works.

    As I said, I haven't personally tested this software.

    Jim

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    I do all the service myself and I have used the Durametric software since it came out for the 997. Updates and new functions are always being developed and they are free once you have the USB interface. As a software developer myself I have been impressed by their responsiveness to answer questions and develop new features. I was one of the first to request the 40K service reset and worked with one of the developers there to test the function on my car as it was being developed. Short of having the factory computer this is a reasonable alternative.

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    "The idea is good, however the oil draining from the sump easily exceeds the flow of the oil into the reservoir."

    Are you sure you didn't have the vent cap open?

    David

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    Quote:
    Leawood911 said:
    I do all the service myself and I have used the Durametric software since it came out for the 997.


    Wow. I did't ralise you could get this. Do you know if they ship to the UK?
    Edit: Looks like they do.

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    First time I changed the oil in my old 996 I put a fancy new plastic oil container and pulled the plug on the oil pan. I however forgot to open the plug that lets air out of the closed oil pan and so the oil going into in began to overflow and I had a pretty mini Exon Valdez in the driveway before I realized and pulled the air plug open so the oil could drain properly !!

    Welcome to the club !

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    does the durametric work for 997 GT3s?

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    Have done this myself. I advice having a big open drain pan, the ones with a small hole might work for other cars but will not keep up with the flow of 8 quarts hot synthetic oil. I found out while under the car, hot oil going everywhere, no chance to put the plug back, just stand back and enjoy!! Hot oil really comes out like water, it is so thin!

    Got 8.5 quarts in with the filter change.

    Re: DIY oil change - murphey's law

    Quote:
    smdteefpuller said:
    does the durametric work for 997 GT3s?



    Just log into Durametric.com and check. They reply to email requests quickly.

     
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