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    bluelines:

    Nice Ferrari indecision

    How dare you say something like that Smiley


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    Gnil:
    bluelines:

    Nice Ferrari indecision

    How dare you say something like that Smiley

    He didn't say "nice R8" SmileySmiley


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    The seven generations of the Porsche 911 (Part 1)

    The original 911: the masterpiece from Zuffenhausen

    Stuttgart, Germany. On 27 November, the eighth generation of the Porsche 911 will celebrate its world premiere in Los Angeles – 55 years after the debut of the original 911 model. This is reason enough to take a look back at the previous seven generations:

    A legend is born at the International Motor Show Germany (IAA) in Frankfurt. It’s 12 September 1963: Porsche proudly presents the eagerly anticipated successor to the 356. The new sports car, originally known as the 901, is following in great footsteps. To reflect the ambitions of the brand, Porsche is now playing in a higher league with the new model: a flat engine with six instead of four cylinders and air-cooled in the best traditions of the company, but delivering 130 PS straight away. When the new model came onto the market in 1964 it was called the 911 – the result of a discussion about naming rights with the automotive manufacturer Peugeot. The 911 is quickly accepted as a “genuine” Porsche because the performance of the new sports car exceeds all expectations. The stage is thus set for an unrivalled global career.

    The expansion of the 911 model range then continued apace. In 1965, Porsche responded to a discussion in the USA that had branded cabriolets as dangerous in a typically pragmatic way: the company presented the 911 Targa as the first-ever “safety cabriolet”, featuring a roll-over bar that was a good 20 centimetres wide, a removable roof section and rear mini soft top. This was known as the soft window. This was followed shortly afterwards by a panorama rear window with heatable glass. The name of the open-top variant – “Targa” – was derived from the Targa Florio endurance race in Sicily, which Porsche had already won four times.

    In 1966, another design icon celebrated its world premiere along with the 160 PS 911 S: the Fuchs wheel. Probably the most famous wheel in automotive history entered new technological territory: being forged from one piece made it much lighter. 

    Additional model variants were ready in autumn 1967: the 911 T with 110 PS rounded off the range below the top model 911 S and the 911 E – the suffix “E” stood for petrol injection. This made it very clean: with these variants, Porsche was the first German car manufacturer to meet the strict US emissions regulations. 

    The continuous improvement of the 2+2-seater Porsche achieved a further milestone in the middle of 1968: from the 1969 model year, the wheelbase of the first 911 generation grew by 57 millimetres to 2,268 millimetres. Primarily, this gave the rear-engined sports car calmer handling. The 2.0-litre era ended in 1969: a four-millimetre larger bore increased displacement to 2,195 ccm. With the 1972 model year, the displacement increased even further to 2.4 litres, but the sports car was now also able to run on regular-grade petrol. Power ranged from 130 to 190 PS in the 911 S.

    The 911 Carrera RS 2.7 became its very own legend with its “duck-tail” rear spoiler. This sports car weighed only 1,000 kilograms, developed a power output of 210 PS and had a top speed of over 245 km/h. In all, 1,525 cars left the factory gates in Zuffenhausen. This model therefore crowned the first 911 generation. A total of 111,995 original 911s were produced between 1963 and 197

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    Lars997:
    Gnil:
    bluelines:

    Nice Ferrari indecision

    How dare you say something like that Smiley

    He didn't say "nice R8" SmileySmiley

    Exactly. Smiley Smiley


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    Oficial.

    Car so be revealed next Tuesday (27th) and presented the next day at Los Angeles.

    Only 6 days left..

    Woooooooossssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh


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    Only 6 days left until we start to speculate on the 992.2 indecision


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    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


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    Ok, just for those who can't wait...

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    Thank god the black bumper bottoms are gone but the anal-retentive in me cringes so hard on the little jog of painted yellow at the top of the A pillar/roof. 


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    Me likey...

     

     

     


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    Wonderbar:

    Me likey...

    That's because it looks like your Panamera SmileySmiley.


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    No way that black plastic around the rear light bar is real, no? That would be a real eye sore...


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    I guess it looks like a Panamera if you focus only on the back light strip, and ignore every other dimension and design aspect of the carwink

    I think the back light strip is a great improvement.  It breaks up the painted metal of the rear (which brings the eye down), raises the rear to a better proportion overall, and connects the previous separate rear light lenses. My opinion, of course, and subject to others’ personal tastes...


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    Wonderbar:

    I guess it looks like a Panamera if you focus only on the back light strip, and ignore every other dimension and design aspect of the carwink

    I think the back light strip is a great improvement.  It breaks up the painted metal of the rear (which brings the eye down), raises the rear to a better proportion overall, and connects the previous separate rear light lenses. My opinion, of course, and subject to others’ personal tastes...

    I was just yanking your chain. I almost always refrain from commenting on designs until I have stood next to the car in question, because it only then that one can form a true opinion.


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    No events taken, whatsoever. I like having my chain yanked, especially by my wife blush


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    Seems the 911 now follows rather leads the pack.


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    spudgun:

    No way that black plastic around the rear light bar is real, no? That would be a real eye sore...

    they need a few '' errors'' in order to keep something to do for the FL, as always, no surprise  Smiley


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    Completely uninspired & boring, as expected.... older ones have so much more character 

     


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    nice car. Nothing special but nice angry


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    Lars997:

    nice car. Nothing special but nice angry

    It looks very good in person (live) but yes, it is a typical 911 (this is what people want, right? Smiley).

    Turbo S should look more spectacular though...


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    It still looks a bit artificial in those photos. It will look better in real.


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    2018 White 911 GT3


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    I wonder why Porsche still require the tennis ball sized front sensor for the active cruise control yes I bought a VW T-Toc Design a couple of weeks back to replace our Panda 4x4 as a little run around. It has active cruise but there is no large visible sensor for the VW system which works very effectively.

    I was shocked at how much equipment is standard on this car that Porsche get away with charging silly money for, considering they are both brands from the same group. It has really hit home how much buyers are gouged by Porsche. The T Roc has the following equipment as standard for a UK list price of around £21,700 -

    Park assist front and rear  (£665)
    Folding door mirrors  (£210)
    Active cruise control with emergency braking  (£1,557)
    Lane change assist (£488)
    Auto dimming mirrors with rain sensor (£387)
    Privacy glass (£249)
    Diamond finish wheels (£1,010)
    Interior light package (£312)

    The figures in brackets are the prices Porsche charge in the UK for these options on a 991.2 which comes to £4,878 heart

     


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    Gauss:

    It still looks a bit artificial in those photos. It will look better in real.

    Because these are artificial photos...? Smiley Smiley


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    I was just pointing out the obvious 


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    Gauss:

    I was just pointing out the obvious 

    Smiley


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    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Ok, just for those who can't wait...

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    Smiley

    Is it mandatory in the EU now to have ugly third brake lights ?


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    d997h:
     

    Is it mandatory in the EU now to have ugly third brake lights ?

    Yes, the third brake light is mandatory in the EU (for passenger vehicles up to 8 persons), but it doesn't have to be ugly Smiley


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    RC:
    Lars997:

    nice car. Nothing special but nice angry

    It looks very good in person (live) but yes, it is a typical 911 (this is what people want, right? Smiley).

    Turbo S should look more spectacular though...

    Did the Dynamic Turn Signals a la Audi and the rear Illuminated Porsche logo a la Taycan made it to the final car?


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    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
    RC:
    Lars997:

    nice car. Nothing special but nice angry

    It looks very good in person (live) but yes, it is a typical 911 (this is what people want, right? Smiley).

    Turbo S should look more spectacular though...

    Did the Dynamic Turn Signals a la Audi and the rear Illuminated Porsche logo a la Taycan made it to the final car?

    I don't have a clue... The car I saw and sat in (stationary) didn't have any lights on. Saw one driving too but didn't notice anything.


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    ISUK:

    I wonder why Porsche still require the tennis ball sized front sensor for the active cruise control yes I bought a VW T-Toc Design a couple of weeks back to replace our Panda 4x4 as a little run around. It has active cruise but there is no large visible sensor for the VW system which works very effectively.

    I was shocked at how much equipment is standard on this car that Porsche get away with charging silly money for, considering they are both brands from the same group. It has really hit home how much buyers are gouged by Porsche. The T Roc has the following equipment as standard for a UK list price of around £21,700 -

    Park assist front and rear  (£665)
    Folding door mirrors  (£210)
    Active cruise control with emergency braking  (£1,557)
    Lane change assist (£488)
    Auto dimming mirrors with rain sensor (£387)
    Privacy glass (£249)
    Diamond finish wheels (£1,010)
    Interior light package (£312)

    The figures in brackets are the prices Porsche charge in the UK for these options on a 991.2 which comes to £4,878 heart

     

    They do it to milk the cash cow and for customers like me...I wouldn´t order nothing of your list, so I would save over 4.000...Smiley

    Blueflame


     
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