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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    EnglishManInNY:

    Sounds good!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zjpGATNy8E&feature=share

    Still a test mule... Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    My Manual 991.2 GT3 makes much more noise on a down shift (using rev matching) than my PDK version did. I imagine it will be the same for the MT 992 GT3 when it breaks cover. Im hoping that they will make both avalable from tthe same date this time around...


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Does the revised 2019 Porsche 911 RSR race car 4.2 liter flat-6 preview the 992 GT3 powerplant?

    Video Link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot-AKF5mV38

    Porsche updated their RSR race car for 2019 to defend their FIA World Endurance Championship title. The brakes, clutch, and suspension remain the same. What is the main change? The new 4.2 liter naturally aspirated flat-6 motor... 
     


    Porsche went to bigger displacement:

    In terms of the drivetrain, Porsche remains faithful to its chosen path. The latest nine-eleven is also powered by a six-cylinder naturally aspirated engine. The highly efficient boxer unit positioned in front of the rear axle has a capacity of 4,194 cc and – depending on the size of the restrictor – produces around 515 hp. The new power unit is the largest ever boxer engine to be mounted in a Porsche 911 ex-works, and offers even better driveability over a wider rev-band compared to the predecessor’s proven four-litre aggregate. Power is delivered to the rear wheels via a weight-optimised, more rigid sequential six-speed constant-mesh gearbox. The new powertrain in the Porsche 911 RSR ensures faster gear-shift times and increased efficiency. The two exhaust pipes now exit on each side in front of the rear wheels. The new exhaust gas ducting saves weight and is aerodynamically advantageous.

    This is interesting. Why? Because the GT3 street car follows the race car. Displacement in the GT3 has yet to go above 4.0 liters. Actually, back with the 997 generation the GT3 saw 4.0 liters so a displacement increase is due just as the RSR shows us. 

    Porsche really has no other option to get power other than to increase displacement and increase revs. We are about at the limit of the motor.

    Does this mean the 992 GT3 will get 4.2 liters? Maybe. The 992 generation at some point will likely see 4.2 liters. Porsche may be holding the 4.2 in reserve for the 992 GT3 RS because Porsche is Porsche and that is what they do.


    The vehicle from Weissach has undergone improvements in all areas and will replace the successful 911 RSR with which Porsche won the manufacturers’ and drivers’ world championship in the FIA WEC as well as the Le Mans endurance classic (France) and the IMSA races at Sebring and Road Atlanta (Petit Le Mans) amongst other events in 2019.

    In developing the new Porsche 911 RSR, substantial insights were garnered and adopted from the extremely successful race outings of its predecessor. “Since 2017 the 911 RSR has yielded us more than 20 class wins in the world championship as well as at long-distance series in North America and Europe. Our job in the development was to make a very good car even better. The engineers at Weissach have perfectly implemented this in every aspect,” says Fritz Enzinger, Vice President Porsche Motorsport.

    “We never rest on our laurels,” explains Pascal Zurlinden, Director GT Factory Motorsport. “We’ve extensively analysed all factory and customer campaigns with the Porsche 911 RSR. Our engineers noticed room for improvement in a number of areas. We have made significant progress in the development of our car for the next three-year homologation period, especially in the complex areas of driveability, efficiency, durability and serviceability. Ninety-five percent of the car is new. The only components that we’ve kept unchanged from the predecessor are the headlights, brake system, clutch, driver’s seat and parts of the suspension. Tests so far have run excellently. We’re already looking forward to the first races of the 2019/2020 FIA WEC season.”
     


    With the repositioning of the tailpipes, space has been made for an optimised diffuser. The distinctive component at the rear of the Porsche 911 RSR now generates even more downforce. Thanks to the optimisation of airflow at the front and the sides of the Weissach racer, aerodynamic efficiency and stability have increased significantly, thereby further improving the use and durability of the tyres during racing.

    Focus on the work of drivers and mechanics
    Driveability and serviceability are critical factors in long-distance racing. For this reason, Porsche placed particular emphasis on these aspects when developing the new 911 RSR. The cockpit has been reworked with the focus on better usability. In this regard, extensive feedback from the Porsche drivers proved invaluable. Like with the predecessor, the body made of carbon-fibre reinforced plastic can be swapped out quickly and thus ensures efficient pit processes in long-distance racing.
     


    To give drivers added protection, the active and passive safety elements in the Porsche 911 RSR have been overhauled. The proven collision warning system allows drivers an even better overview to detect approaching prototype vehicles early enough. The optimised roll cage, the FIA side impact panel in the door and cage as well as additional impact protection for the legs improve the passive safety in the event of an accident. Other features include the removable roof hatch and the rigidly-mounted racing seat featuring a six-point safety harness for the driver.

    First race outing in September 2019
    “We’ve been working on the concept of the new Porsche 911 RSR since 2017. The first designs were created using CAD software. In August 2018, the best racing nine-eleven to date completed its first kilometres on the factory’s own test track in Weissach,” says Pascal Zurlinden, describing the important milestones in the car’s development. Over the following months, the factory team conducted numerous tests. Seasoned Porsche works drivers took turns at the wheel of the new 911 RSR. Parallel to this, the aerodynamics were fine-tuned in the Porsche wind tunnel. “Another milestone was our long-run in March 2019 at Le Castellet, where we included the works teams from both the WEC and IMSA. We covered more than 6,000 kilometres over 30 hours without any technical hiccups. The drivers and engineers were very satisfied. The car received its racing homologation on 1st July,” added Zurlinden.
     


    World premiere at Goodwood 

    The most spectacular 911 of all time makes its world premiere on 6 July at the Goodwood Festival of Speed (Great Britain). The Porsche 911 RSR will also celebrate its race debut on the British Isles – at the season-opening round of the FIA World Endurance Championship (WEC) at Silverstone on 1 September. Prior to this, the vehicle of the current manufacturers’ world champions will face rival manufacturers contesting the FIA WEC GTE-Pro class for the first time at a two-day prologue in Barcelona (Spain) on 23/24 July. The Porsche GT Team will field two works cars at eight rounds of the 2019/2020 season with drivers Michael Christensen (Denmark) and Kévin Estre (France) as well as Gianmaria Bruni (Italy) and Richard Lietz (Austria). In the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship, the switch to the latest model will take place in the 2020 season. In North America, an additional two factory-run Porsche 911 RSR will fight for the GTLM category title against competing manufacturers. For customer teams, the vehicle will be available from the 2020/2021 FIA WEC season. 

    For the first time, the factory race cars from Weissach will be decked out in two different designs: The typical Porsche white will continue to be the dominating colour on the No. 91 car. Added accents include a centrally-placed red stripe extending from the front hood over the roof to the rear apron, as well as red side sills. Grey highlights on the side complement the clear and dynamic design. On the No. 92 car, the white and grey colours are reversed. The rear wing and the wing mirrors are black instead of white so that fans can differentiate between the two.

    Link:  https://www.porscheboost.com/content.php?11293-Does-the-revised-2019-Porsche-911-RSR-race-car-4-2-liter-flat-6-preview-the-992-G...

    Smiley 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    https://www.carscoops.com/2019/08/2020-porsche-911-gt3-touring-put-to-the-test-on-the-nordschleife/

    new wheel design?


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    about bloody time.


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    2020 Porsche 911 GT3 Touring Pounds The Tarmac On The Nordschleife

    Earlier this year we stumbled upon a video of a 911 GT3 prototype that lacked the typical, for the model, massive rear wing. At the time, we speculated that the car was the upcoming GT3 Touring Package, and now came across yet another test mule that fits the same description.

    Unlike others, this one featured the standard rear spoiler of the regular 911 from the latest 992 generation. It also sports a new rear diffuser and lacks the GT3 air vents behind the rear window for engine cooling.

    That said, it does feature other typical GT3 identification marks such as the center lock wheels, oversized brakes, and central double exhaust pipes. This leads us to believe Porsche has already started working on the new 992-based GT3 Touring Package much earlier in the model’s life cycle than it did with the 991.2-based version.

    Given the absence of interior photos, we can’t tell if this prototype features a manual transmission like its predecessor, but we sure hope it does, even as an option. In any case, the engine will still be a naturally aspirated flat-six, in all likelihood displacing 4.0 liters. Power should increase compared to the previous 911 GT3, with some reports talking of 520 HP (527 PS), which should be more than enough to satisfy prospective customers.

    Logically, the production car will launch after the “regular” 911 GT3 that is expected to make its debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show next month, which means some time in 2020.

    Link:  https://www.carscoops.com/2019/08/2020-porsche-911-gt3-touring-put-to-the-test-on-the-nordschleife/

    Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Testing testing

    https://youtu.be/bPo1S8pSFPo


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    OPF sounds great kiss 

    Although I slightly got the impression that the car felt heavy.


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    steelested:

    Testing testing

    https://youtu.be/bPo1S8pSFPo

    Porsche 992 GT3 Touring...

    ...you can hear the manual gearbox! Smiley

    Video Link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPo1S8pSFPo

    Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    The rear difusser design is now completed!


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    macca993:

    The rear difusser design is now completed!

    Looks pretty good - I wonder how effective it will be.  Difficult to have the proper airfoil shape with the engine in the way there...


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Car sounds great in that video especially around 1.20 when it becomes more obvious its likely a manual being tested. The car is the same as in the recent spy shots with the visible diffuser. No idea Gramt regards how effective it will be but the exit is at least now a proper flick (unlike our current 991.2s which to be honest are a rather crude cobbled together poly plastic and rivet affair with little depth or regularity of foil). But you are right - unlike Ferrari and others Porsche dont have much room to play with back there to incorportae a deep diffuer system. I guess they would have to mount the engine further forward to achieve that as per RSR etc


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    the sound with particulate filter is not that one yet and you will hear it only when the car will be launched. this is a mule and development is ongoing without the full stuff in place for now. angry


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    the-missile:

    the sound with particulate filter is not that one yet and you will hear it only when the car will be launched. this is a mule and development is ongoing without the full stuff in place for now. angry

    I'm afraid so... Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    OK. So this with the screens we will get in USA and ROW (non Eu)? If so then great. How can you be sure?


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    macca993:

    OK. So this with the screens we will get in USA and ROW (non Eu)? If so then great. How can you be sure?

    I don't have a clue. There was currently a rumor that Porsche plans to use the same engine/exhaust system tech for all markets in the future because otherwise things get complicated but to be honest, I don't have a clue.

    Don't forget that California for example implements, to my knowledge, harsher emissions levels as well, so... 

    I doubt that Porsche would make cars for the US and only those for California get a particulate filter. 

    Also, even in the US, noise limitations are a thing right now, so... Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    macca993:

    OK. So this with the screens we will get in USA and ROW (non Eu)? If so then great. How can you be sure?

    ROW will probably (almost confirmed) what Euro cars are doing.

    US cars are following the same shape but no filter per se, just imitating shape to copy the flow and allow one single design for all cars.

    as RC mentioned, get ready to soon see the worst case scenario convergence for ease of manufacturing. current regulation is too expensive to digest but the regular Joe is currently asking to feel good about his green foot impact so authorities (at least in Europe) are closely checking and giving hard time to approve and certify cars.

    Good example;  where is the Macan turbo? why it took so long to see a GT4? I will stop there, Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Seems like the mule near the end of the video was a manual so great. Quite a lot of body overhang over the wheels at the front arches...

    any news on rear seats in the GT3 :)


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    LOoks like they were testing with those foam rub strips on teh hweel arch's that is all. Not sure what they do this for but maybe rubbing? Weve seen these foam extensions on other 992 GT3 prottypes last 6 months...

    Im not sure where the NZ market fits into the ROW thing. For the speedster I understand our engine is same as USA. As we have no emissions or noise standards as such and our cars are built to Oceania (SE Asia, Australia NZ) build codes was told we woul likely get non EU6D engines in the future if those were available (of course porsche charges more here and provides less - in this case sans the particulate filter!). 

    Of course PAG m to a global build for GPF GT3 and in that case we will get what Europe gets. Thats not the case with 992 models here and our 991.2 gT3RS were still being delivered with the old engine....


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    The way I see it, speedster set the benchmark for new engine conforming to new regulations and you would hope/ expect Porsche would only improve on that. 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    I expect to see the Porsche 992 GT3 unveiled by Andreas Preuninger at Frankfurt to celebrate the 20-year anniversary...  1554541446878image.gif

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    Link:  https://uk.motor1.com/photos/695098/porsche-911-gt3-touring-spy-photos/

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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    That would be fantastic but I doubt it will happen. This year’s Franfurt motor show will be all about the Taycan. It’s too big.


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Gauss:

    That would be fantastic but I doubt it will happen. This year’s Franfurt motor show will be all about the Taycan. It’s too big.

    Agree.  Hopefully, we don’t have to wait until March for Geneva...


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    I think March earliest

    taycan frankfurt

    then turbo first surely? 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Turbo at LA in Nov I would guess


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Grant:
    Gauss:

    That would be fantastic but I doubt it will happen. This year’s Franfurt motor show will be all about the Taycan. It’s too big.

    Agree.  Hopefully, we don’t have to wait until March for Geneva...

    + 1 about Taycan , but history has showed  us the GT3 comes in Geneva . 

    Car shows have a hard time . In Frankfurt , basically there will be only the German manufacturer exposing .......


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    How is Porsche going to distinguish the 992 GT3 from the pedestrian looking 992 911? In the past you could  immediately tell them apart because of the wing on the back. From the various photos the 992 GT3 looks very similar to the 992 911. yes


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    nberry:

    How is Porsche going to distinguish the 992 GT3 from the pedestrian looking 992 911? In the past you could  immediately tell them apart because of the wing on the back. From the various photos the 992 GT3 looks very similar to the 992 911. yes

    Don't you think the same goes for 991R and 991.2 GT3 Touring? You don't need a wing to distinguish imo, stance is everything.


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    The difference is the 991 GT3 had a wing.. Those that didn’t want one had the option for their car to look like a run of the mill 991 911. 

    Is Porsche planning to make all 992 models almost look alike?surprise


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    'Normal' GT3 will have a wing as usual. They are probably using non-wing cars for anything but aero-tests?


     
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