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    Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    For those who are interested, here are a couple of thoughts regarding this car.

    I testdrove it for a couple of hours, Cooper S version with manual.

     

    POSITIVE

    • very good driving feel, feels like a solid and bigger car
    • very good visibility to the front and sides
    • very direct and easy steering feel, maybe a little bit too direct for sharp curves and beginners
    • AWD is amazing, no more steering annoyances due to lack of traction (you can actually drive through a very narrow curve with the throttle fully pressed down, traction seems to be flawless, like driving on rails)
    • good quality look and feel with some minor exceptions (see NEGATIVE)
    • engine (Cooper S) powerful with acceptable fuel consumption (9 liters / 100 km)
    • Sport button improves throttle response

     

    NEGATIVE

    • exterior design is a matter of personal taste (the Mini is a classic, the Countryman version looks like something completely new)
    • the agility from the lighter Mini Cooper S is missing, it feels heavier (but at the same time offers a better feel of a solid and bigger car, good for women)
    • the Cooper S engine feels a little bit underpowered for the Countryman, 30-40 horses more would not hurt
    • interior material quality not always good, makes the Countryman look cheap from the inside (exceptions: speedo cluster, middle console and doors).
    • handbrake operation not really satisfying, the necessary arm movement is not comfortable
    • engine/exhaust sound lack any sportiness
    • steering can get nervous when changing lanes fast (issue for beginners only)
    • price tag is high (compared to BMW X1 for example)
    • effect of Sport button not as good as in the Mini Cooper S
    • throttle response without activated Sport button not as good as expected, there seems to be a slight turbo lag

     

    Overall I would actually prefer a Mini Cooper S (not Countryman) with AWD but since this car does not exist, the Countryman could be an interesting alternative for short distances and mostly city driving. It also feels more solid than our Cooper S, the Countryman feels like driving in a class above the Mini. Unfortunately some of the agility goes away with the weight but due to the very direct steering, which at the same time operates very light, the weight is actually not a problem. Beginners however could have difficulties with this setup.

    I would buy this car only because of the AWD, even if our Cooper S never had problems with bavarian winters.

    Since the Countryman with the Cooper S engine already feels almost underpowered, going for a less power would take a lot of fun from this car. There is a rumor that Mini plans to offer a new 143 HP Diesel engine for the Countryman, I actually think that this Diesel engine could be the perfect engine for this car due to the high torque figure, especially for city driving.

    Another point worth mentioning: there is a rumor that the automatic transmission version of the Countryman will not have AWD. If true, this would be a huge mistake because it would cost Mini a lot of Countryman customers. Especially for city driving, the automatic transmission is a must for such a car. Best imaginable combo: auto tranny + Diesel = perfect city car for those who don't want to drive through the city in a SUV.

    If you have questions, feel free to ask. I wasn't able to take any spectacular photos, sorry about that.

     

    country2.jpg

    country1.jpg

     

     


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    RC - Would you prefer this car to a Subaru WRX or STI (similar price, no)?

    Thank you for the review!


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    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    Grant:

    RC - Would you prefer this car to a Subaru WRX or STI (similar price, no)?

    Thank you for the review!

     

     

    From a driver's point of view ? No, definitely not.

    The Countryman is a nice little city mover with AWD but nothing super sporty.

    The Cooper S engine adds some juice the package but due to the higher chassis, don't expect the same agility and sportiness the Cooper S provides.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

     Thanks RC.

    My wife realy wants a Clubman, but I thought the countryman with it's AWD would be better + you get extra space in the car + 4 doors.

    She wants to ''look good'' when going into town without the kids ,or just with one that she can hide  

    I seem to get your points, the standart Mini is nicer and more fun, the Countryman more settled . 

    Maybe I must just ask her to look at both and then go for what her heart says..


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    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    Just tell her wife that I think that the Clubman is one of the ugliest cars on this planet. 

    My dealer told me that the Clubman doesn't sell at all anymore and that many potential Countryman customers actually expressed the same wishes I did: a Mini Cooper S with AWD. 

    The Countryman is an interesting niche product but I'm really not sure if it will sell well.

    Time will tell...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    If I were in Switzerland I would go for the Countryman if I wanted a MINI product. AWD and higher ground clearance will prove helpful during your winters. The MINI fun factor (direct steering and good handling) seems to be unaffected in the Countryman.


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    "Form follows function"


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    reginos:

    If I were in Switzerland I would go for the Countryman if I wanted a MINI product. AWD and higher ground clearance will prove helpful during your winters. The MINI fun factor (direct steering and good handling) seems to be unaffected in the Countryman.


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    "Form follows function"

     

    Very well said. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


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    reginos:

    If I were in Switzerland I would go for the Countryman if I wanted a MINI product. AWD and higher ground clearance will prove helpful during your winters. The MINI fun factor (direct steering and good handling) seems to be unaffected in the Countryman.


    Just hoped it would be a bit bigger. It's actually quite a bit smaller than an X1. 


    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    RC:

    Just tell her wife that I think that the Clubman is one of the ugliest cars on this planet. 


     

    Just ordered one...Smiley  "de gustibus non disputandum est"  Smiley


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    mikigta:
    RC:

    Just tell her wife that I think that the Clubman is one of the ugliest cars on this planet. 


     

    Just ordered one...Smiley  "de gustibus non disputandum est"  Smiley

     

    As an old Latin addict, a little correction: 

    de gustibus non est disputandum Smiley

    The Clubman sells pretty bad at my dealer, this is why he has high hopes for the Countryman.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    RC:
    mikigta:
    RC:

    Just tell her wife that I think that the Clubman is one of the ugliest cars on this planet. 


     

    Just ordered one...Smiley  "de gustibus non disputandum est"  Smiley

     

    As an old Latin addict, a little correction: 

    de gustibus non est disputandum Smiley

    The Clubman sells pretty bad at my dealer, this is why he has high hopes for the Countryman.

    Smiley You are right!

    That's why i have a little discount on it.... 17% Smiley

    Btw i buy the pre- restyling model, cooperS 184cv.

    I like also the countryman but too much money and fuel consumption IMHO.

    Smiley

    Ciao

    Michele


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    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    A high powered  version is coming in less than 12 months, so I am waiting for that...


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    WAY:

    A high powered  version is coming in less than 12 months, so I am waiting for that...

     

    High powered version of the Countryman ? Smiley

    As far as I heard, the next engine on the table is the 143 hp Diesel engine. A JCW version isn't even on the table yet, Mini wants to take a look at initial sales figures first.

    What I don't get is the version of the Countryman without AWD. Why would someone buy this over the "standard" Mini if it doesn't have AWD ?

    I told my dealer that if Mini brings the Cooper S version with automatic tranny but without AWD, I won't go for it.

    What I actually always wanted from Mini (and apparently there are others who are looking for the same): a Mini Cooper S with AWD, 300 hp and and additional weight of maximum 50 kg. For under 50000 EUR, this car would be amazing. Oh well... Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report


    What I actually always wanted from Mini (and apparently there are others who are looking for the same): a Mini Cooper S with AWD, 300 hp and and additional weight of maximum 50 kg. For under 50000 EUR, this car would be amazing. Oh well... Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW

     

    I would love to buy one! Smiley

    BlueflameSmiley


    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    RC:
    WAY:

    A high powered  version is coming in less than 12 months, so I am waiting for that...

     

    High powered version of the Countryman ? Smiley

    As far as I heard, the next engine on the table is the 143 hp Diesel engine. A JCW version isn't even on the table yet, Mini wants to take a look at initial sales figures first.


    My friend told me that the hot versions are coming in 12 months.  He is high up in MINI.  He also had a meeting with head of MINI Design and Product development in Munich recently and that meeting didn't change what he said about the hot versions.  So it's coming!


    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    The MINI in WRC will look like a Countryman. So hot versions are definitely in, to capitalize on the Rally participation.

    MiniWRC.jpg


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: Mini Cooper S Countryman - Short Driving Report

    Basically a Countryman without AWD is a better designed Clubman. I can see it, and would probably buy one. Never like the Clubman design.


     
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