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    that macan has 991 eyebrow running lights - very different than the pictures which have nothing along that upper line of the grill.

    BC has been getting hammered with snow so they will have a good go.

     


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    That's a Cayenne, the Macan is the covered one on the other side of the X3.

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    reginos:

    It's based on the next Q5 which won't be smaller than the current Q5 which is the same size as the X3.

     

    Not according to the spy pic with it parked next to X3 and Cayenne. Seems like the Mecan is between the size of a X1 and the current X3.


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    CPA4S:

     

    BC has been getting hammered with snow so they will have a good go.

     

     

    Global cooling at work, we are dropping back to the ice age :)

    They sure will have it tough, Prince George is at -4, while Yellowknife is at -37!!


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    Whoopsy:
    reginos:

    It's based on the next Q5 which won't be smaller than the current Q5 which is the same size as the X3.

     

    Not according to the spy pic with it parked next to X3 and Cayenne. Seems like the Mecan is between the size of a X1 and the current X3.

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    I know the Mecan is based on the next Q5, but look at the spy pic, the covered one is the Mecan, pretty obvious it's smaller than the X3.


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    2013 Porsche 911 Turbo: Latest Spy Shots...

    (14 December 2012)

    We'll see the car unveiled in 2013, possibly at Porsche's home event: the Frankfurt motor show in September...
     
    Look closely at the engine air intakes and you'll see that underneath the camo-sticker shaped like the 997's triangular aperture, the 991 will sport a more rounded, smaller opening. We've also got a better look at the revised front bumper and splitter, which sports slightly flared lower lips, like the new Cayman.
     
    At the rear, we see the first outing for the boxy quad tailpipes - previous 911 Turbo mules sported ill-fitting single-section pipes. And the final shape of the wheelarch ducting in the corners of the rear bumper is also visible.
     
    ...
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    2013 Porsche 911 Turbo: Latest Spy Shots -- Car Magazine Article

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    Porsche 991 GT3 + Porsche 991 Turbo testing on the Nürburgring...

    Porsche 991 GT3 + Porsche 991 Turbo testing on the Nürburgring -- Video Link

    Porsche Macan testing on the Nürburgring...

    Porsche Macan testing on the Nürburgring -- Video Link

    Porsche Panamera + Porsche Cayenne tested on the Nürburgring...

    Porsche Panamera + Porsche Cayenne tested on the Nürburgring -- Video Link

    ...turn up the volume for maximum audio impact! Smiley

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    Nice use of the curbing with the 991TT (or is it TTT?)


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    Nice found...kiss


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    Great Videos. Thanks kiss


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    I am struck by how quiet the turbo is in the gt3/turbo video.  Is that just because I am comparing it to the GT3, or is there something more going on there?  Obviously I am aware that turbos generally are significantly quieter than NA, and the GT3 here may have a sport exhaust, but the turbo engine is almost completely quiet...

    I can definitely make out the PDK on the GT3 too.


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    Turbos are very quiet - turbocharger is directly in the exhaust path.  I used to run my tuned Evo on the road without a muffler and it was only slightly beyond tasteful - don't try that with a GT3 - ever hear an RSR at the track?


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    A little oversteer on the GT3 on the last corner. Nicely corrected.


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    Spyderidol:

    A little oversteer on the GT3 on the last corner. Nicely corrected.

    Corrected by the front or rear wheels steering? 


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    Good question. Who knows? Interesting to see how he goes into the corner quite fast. There is very good turn-in at the front of the car (total absence of under-steer), then the rear wants to whip about, but it is immediately controlled and the car is back on track for the rest of the corner. It really is just a touch of over-steer.

    It is also possible that the driver provoked the over-steer (rear-end slide) as he may be testing the limits of the car under cornering.

     


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    Looks like a PDCC correction to me...


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    The tire skidding sounds like it has been automatically corrected by a device.


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    Porsche squares up to Ferrari with new 960

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    Mid-engined, 4wd, eight-cylinder boxer engines: Georg Kacher reveals how the new 960 slots in above 911...

    You’re looking at the FeFi, short for Ferrari fighter. It’s Porsche’s first attempt to build a mid-engined sports car aimed at the ‘junior supercar’ market, currently dominated by the Ferrari 458 and more recent McLaren MP4-12C. Those two names may be giants of the genre, but neither is likely to be thrilled at the prospect of Porsche crashing their party.
     
    Project 960 sits neatly between the forthcoming 580bhp 991 Turbo S and the 918 Spyder, complete with 583 V8-supplied bhp and 240 electric ponies.
     
    It’s the first time Porsche has dabbled in this supercar sector: previously it’s stuck with racier 911s or proper top-end exotica such as the 959 and Carrera GT. And there are further reasons why we should all start salivating. Such as its eight-cylinder boxer engine. Or its four-wheel drivetrain and seven-speed PDK twin-clutch transmission. Not to mention its 2.5sec dash from 0-60mph.
     
    It’s a brave move by Porsche, plugging a gap in its range which has let traditional supercar makers, and the likes of Bentley, make hay in the £200k-plus marketplace. Not for much longer. 
     
    THE FLAT EIGHT
     
    Porsche favours a new flat-eight engine for the 960. A development of the trademark six-cylinder boxer, the quad-turbo 3.9 is mounted low down in the spaceframe chassis and features a central take-off which connects to a seven-speed PDK ‘box. CAR understands that VW boss Ferdinand Piech is already running a stealth Cayman fitted with a 4.0-litre B8 prototype. This engine supersedes earlier plans for a 4.8 V8 or 911-related flat six.
     
    LIGHT WEIGHT
     
    Porsche’s FeFi relies on an aluminium-intensive platform supported by steel, carbon fibre, magnesium, titanium and other composite elements. To ensure light-footed handling and supercar performance, the target weight is in the area of 1400kg. Light, compact and slippery, the 960 will accelerate to 60mph in about 2.5sec.
     
    IT’S 4WD LIKE THE 959
     
    To control the flat-eight’s 650bhp, the 960 will be four-wheel drive. This adds around 80kg to the kerbweight and is necessary to cope with the instant torque from the quad turbos. Our sources predict we may see a pared-back rear-wheel-drive GT edition later. Porsche’s own mannettino will let drivers flick from mild to wild.
     
    THE OILY BITS
     
    This will be the first Porsche to be spun from the VW group’s newest box of tricks: the sports car platform called MMB (modular mid-engine architecture). It’ll go on to underpin most of the group’s new sports cars, stretching, in some shape or other, from the replacement Boxster to the next-generation Lambo V12.
     
    PRICE, AVAILABILITY
     
    See the new Porsche 960 in the metal in late 2016 with production at the Zuffenhausen parent plant slated to begin in February 2017. This is no limited-edition: estimates run at 3000 to 4000 cars a year over a full lifecycle of six years. The new flagship will most likely be priced above €250,000; that’s slap bang in Ferrari 458 and McLaren 12C territory.
     
    The junior supercar party: look who’s already here...
     
    FERRARI 458 ITALIA
    Vital stats: £179,000, 4.5 V8, 562bhp
    Trump card: Beautiful all-rounder
    Chink in armour: Ergonomics
     
    McLAREN MP4-12C
    Vital stats: £176,000, 3.8 V8, 616bhp
    Trump card: Consummate all-rounder
    Chink in armour: Too sensible!
     
    LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO
    Vital stats: £182k, 5.2 V10, 562bhp
    Trump card: Brutal emotion on tap
    Chink in armour: R8 better/cheaper
     
    PORSCHE 960
    Vital stats: £[TBD], 3.9 Flat 8, 650bhp
    Trump card: First clean-slate Porsche for ages
    Chink in armour: Is 911 just as good?
     
    Source: Car Magazine (January 2013)

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    Very interesting - thanks for posting!  I knew a Flat-8 was coming, ever since they said the 9A1 would be modular and the 981 coming with a Flat-4, but never expected Quad-Turbo.  Thought the GT3RS might get Flat-8, maybe still gets a 4.5L version with no turbos and 9k revs.


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    simply WOW angel


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    How reliable is CAR magazine in general and this article specially?

    Apart from that, I think there's a niche between the GT2rs and the 918, and I would love Porsche to fill that niche.


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    Porsche plans to launch Cayman R and Cayman GT3...

     
    "In the past, the Cayman wasn't allowed to outperform the more profitable 911, but this policy is about to change. Since Porsche has learned that there is virtually no overlap between the two clienteles, we are almost certainly going to see another Cayman R, and there's even talk of a GT3 variant, which could compete in its own junior racing series.
     
    At the other end of the scale, the midcycle makeover expected for late 2015 may yield a new entry-level Cayman powered by a more frugal turbocharged four-cylinder boxer engine. Also said to be in the works are a seven-speed manual gearbox and a wider choice of operating modes modeled after BMW's driving-experience selector and Ferrari's manettino."
     
     -- Article by Georg Kacher (Automobile, February 2013) 
     
     

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    PORSCHE 911 in 2013: TURBO and GT3...

     
    (27 December 2012)
     
    The new Turbo arrives here 2013... It remains the 3.8-liter twin-turbo chargers with VTG (variable turbine geometry). But as we hear from Zuffenhausen, the approximately 40 kilograms lighter successor will start here at the level of the previous S model, at around 530 horsepower - the new S version is then up to around 550 hp.
     
    It looks just as sharp, the successor who will consume the other hand, about 15 percent less fuel. Zero to 100 km / h in 3.5 seconds (3.4 s dual clutch transmission), peak h 313 km / The brand new multi-link rear suspension with adaptive, electro-mechanical steering, as well as the 918 Spyder is for very stable handling used - the adjustment is a function of speed with steering angles of a few degrees in either direction.
     
     
    And the GT3? The sport and Cup racer seen August 2013 again as purist luxury free-flyer - it also has news at hand. The performance of the 3.8-liter increases from 435 to 450 hp (like around 465 hp), the motor is given as 911 in a direct injection, which lowers fuel consumption by about ten percent. The Hammer: In power transmission ZF brand to be offered in addition to the seven-speed manual optional even the extremely responsive dual clutch transmission (PDK). 
     
     
    A word on the Targa with a body in early 2014 offers a surprise. She returns, as shown in picture, back to classical roots. As before, there are two removable roof panels that can be easily stowed in the trunk. 
     

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    turbo - 3,5 secs 0-100 only? IT will be a total fail if it accelerates slower than 2,9 secs 0-100

     

    pls clarify - may be its time to look for another car if it is that slow....


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    He is quoting article from German Auto Zeitung. Some info in that article is not accurate at all. Be assured- 991 Turbo will je faster then 997.2 Turbo S.

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    Sounds promising! 

    Press release in June...delivery post factory break (August)???blush


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    KresoF1:
    He is quoting article from German Auto Zeitung. Some info in that article is not accurate at all. Be assured- 991 Turbo will je faster then 997.2 Turbo S.

    Sound great! I hope as well that info in the article is not accurate. What is possible to say now about release date, hp and acceleration of 991 turbo and turbo s(!). May be its better to eait for new turbo s?)


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    the roof of the targa will not be manual. Please have a look at the precedent post to see the mechanism. 


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    Porsche models planned in 2013...

    2013 Porsche Panamera: "In spring 2013, the Panamera a facelift. The changes keep after a good three years of construction has been limited. Both the shape of the front and rear lamps as well as the skirts have a new finish..."

    2013 Porsche 991 Turbo: "In September, with 525 hp (550 hp in the S model), the Porsche 911 Turbo expected -- with new versions of GT2 and GT2 RS in 2014..."

    2013 Porsche 991 GT3: "The 911 GT3 as the last bastion of Porsche purists. In addition, the cast iron sigh of relief: the dual-clutch is offered only as an option. In the summer of 2013, the GT3 roars off with 450 hp..."

    Porsche models planned in 2013 -- Autobild Link

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