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    http://www.automobilemag.com/news/2017-porsche-panamera-first-look/


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    918 Spyder + 991 GT3 RS +Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S + Panamera Turbo +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    i like this quote from the Automobile link  for the person a few comments back who jumped a little to fast to rag on the car:

    True to the Porsche’s tradition, its key strength is the impressive integration of drivetrain, chassis, steering, and brakes. And, of course, the cosmetic correction of that rounded back.

     


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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Reveal date: June 28th.

    Just over a month - at long bloody last. [Source: Car&Driver]

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Yes, that is the accurate date.


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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Very detalled info: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2017-porsche-panamera-first-passenger-ride


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    Thanks for the link.  Good info. Looking forward to the launch.

     


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    Report: 2017 Porsche Panamera Turbo Laps ‘Ring as Fast as Carrera GT

    http://www.automobilemag.com/news/report-2017-porsche-panamera-turbo-laps-ring-faster-carrera-gt/


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    For all you who wished a Panamera with 5 seats, with G2 it is possible. As an option you can order 2+1 rear seats. By choosing this option some other options are excluded (limitations).


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    AM


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    Lots of interesting new tidbits:

    - Transmission will exclusively be a new eight-speed ZF-sourced double-clutch called PDK II
    - Any Panamera over 400hp will be exclusively four-wheel-drive - no more Panamera S but rather just a 4S/4S Diesel
    - ...although many articles are saying that the entire Panamera range will be all-4WD, including base models
    - Five seats ARE coming as an option, but not as a conventional bench
    - Wheels are 19, 20 and 21 inches only
    - Lower overall body weight than current model including 100 kg of standard equipment that has been added

    The range includes the following:
    - Panamera/4 - 3.0L single-turbo V6 with approx. 350hp
    - Panamera 4S - 3.0L twin-turbo V6 with approx. 440hp
    - Panamera 4S Diesel - 4.0L e-turbo V8 with approx. 422hp
    - Panamera Turbo - 4.0L twin-turbo V8 with approx. 550hp
    - Panamera Turbo S - 4.0L twin-turbo V8 with approx. 600hp

    ** 4S, 4S Diesel and Turbo will come to market first

    Panamera [4?] Diesel [rumored to be a 3.0L turbo V6 with 340hp], base Diesel hybrid and petrol hybrid will join the range later. Safe to say that there will also be a GTS further down the line with around 460-480hp.

    Less than a month to the unveiling... here goes!

    rulesdontapply


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    I have got the information that the Turbo S will be a hybrid with overall >700 hp or you are talking about the power of the petrol engine?

    I am confused about the diesel hybrid. First diesel is heavier then adding hybrid technology makes it even more heavier. Diesel has enough torque adding electrical power will increase the torque so you need a stronger gearbox. For me it doesn´t make much sense.


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    AM


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    I can confirm the Turbo with 550 hp, the 4S with 440 hp (and yes, no new V8 but still the "old" twin turbo V6) and the 4S Diesel (V8) with 422 hp...


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    Looks like the real thing except the wheels that looks a bit odd?! Front calipers are small and why put those old Turbo II wheels on the new Panamera? Clearly got the slim 3d rear lights and the front lights would probably be the new Matrix LED headlights with full adaptability á la Audi.


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    If that is the real deal we are in front of the ugliest sedan out there. A whale without any sense of proportion.


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    alexalex88:

    If that is the real deal we are in front of the ugliest sedan out there. A whale without any sense of proportion.

    Just imagine the current Panamera with a "corrected" hump and Panamera Sport Turismo front and rear. Basically. 

    Not ugly, no whale but also not a small car. 


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    Ok guys what you think to this being a 928 mule?

    http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/6/1/Did-Our-Spy-Photographers-Just-Catch-A-Revived-Porsche-928-Testing-7733839/


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    EnglishManInNY:

    Ok guys what you think to this being a 928 mule?

    http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/6/1/Did-Our-Spy-Photographers-Just-Catch-A-Revived-Porsche-928-Testing-7733839/

     

    I actually hope that's THE Panamera. 5 Series sized with the Turbo S engineSmiley.

    At that size it will fly off the showroom in no time!


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    Whoopsy:
    EnglishManInNY:

    Ok guys what you think to this being a 928 mule?

    http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/6/1/Did-Our-Spy-Photographers-Just-Catch-A-Revived-Porsche-928-Testing-7733839/

     

    I actually hope that's THE Panamera. 5 Series sized with the Turbo S engineSmiley.

    At that size it will fly off the showroom in no time!

    What's going on with that huge grill in the front facia camo? 


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    Hmm, if a 4L is pushing 600hp, then there will be a lot of heat needed to be dissipate.


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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Yes I agree. I just wonder how the will translate to actual body work.


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    Saw one driving in LA with minimal camo. Had to record a little.


    https://youtu.be/3RF5xNXMLes


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    Thats a lot of camo...
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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    First official teaser wink

    teaser.jpg


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    Great looking! kiss


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    Boyko23:

    Great looking! kiss

    The new Panamera takes Porsche quality and design to the next level, this is for sure. I just wish they changed the exterior sideline a bit more but hey, I guess people like the Panamera.


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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    SportCarGroup:

    First official teaser wink

    teaser.jpg

    Very promising, but I've learned not to get my hopes up based on these ill lit and somewhat misleading dark shots. 


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    very 911ish rear.....promising


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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    I like the new design so much better. Yet, some aspects of it remind me of Audi's A7. Troubling.

     

     


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    KMM:

    I like the new design so much better. Yet, some aspects of it remind me of Audi's A7. Troubling.

     

     

    Wait until you see the new interior... Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    RC:
    KMM:

    I like the new design so much better. Yet, some aspects of it remind me of Audi's A7. Troubling.

     

     

    Wait until you see the new interior... Smiley Smiley

    Smiley


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