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    Re: 992 GT3

    As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly. If the repercussions on the aerodynamics of removing the wing wouldn't bother me or affect me in the use of the car, then I wouldn't be buying a GT3 in the first place


    Re: 992 GT3

    Carlos from Spain:

    As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly. 

    Both AP and FSW claim there is absolutely no suspension change in the Touring.  Also, there has been no mention of a reduction in downforce at the front axle (but I suspect there is).  I wonder how much downforce is added when the folding wing is extended on the Touring and I wonder how much downforce is added by the ducktail compared to the Touring wing when not extended.

    I'm just curious though - my wing is staying in the original upright location.


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    Re: 992 GT3

    off topic but understand 992 gts launch is tomorrow


    Re: 992 GT3

    Grant:
    Carlos from Spain:

    As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly. 

    Both AP and FSW claim there is absolutely no suspension change in the Touring.  Also, there has been no mention of a reduction in downforce at the front axle (but I suspect there is).  I wonder how much downforce is added when the folding wing is extended on the Touring and I wonder how much downforce is added by the ducktail compared to the Touring wing when not extended.

    I'm just curious though - my wing is staying in the original upright location.

    If the is rear wing of the GT3 is there for extra downforce I would think there would have to be some suspension tuning for the extra rear load or is the effect of the wing compared to the Touring's carrera spoiler that small?


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    steelested:

    off topic but understand 992 gts launch is tomorrow

    Porsche should offer the 992 GTS with a 4.0 litre flat-six engine!  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif


    Re: 992 GT3

    Carlos from Spain:
    Grant:
    Carlos from Spain:

    As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly. 

    Both AP and FSW claim there is absolutely no suspension change in the Touring.  Also, there has been no mention of a reduction in downforce at the front axle (but I suspect there is).  I wonder how much downforce is added when the folding wing is extended on the Touring and I wonder how much downforce is added by the ducktail compared to the Touring wing when not extended.

    I'm just curious though - my wing is staying in the original upright location.

    If the is rear wing of the GT3 is there for extra downforce I would think there would have to be some suspension tuning for the extra rear load or is the effect of the wing compared to the Touring's carrera spoiler that small?

    There's a rumour that the lower downforce on a 992 GT3 without the rear wing can be offset by fitting rear seats! Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3

    Carlos from Spain:
    Grant:
    Carlos from Spain:

    As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly. 

    Both AP and FSW claim there is absolutely no suspension change in the Touring.  Also, there has been no mention of a reduction in downforce at the front axle (but I suspect there is).  I wonder how much downforce is added when the folding wing is extended on the Touring and I wonder how much downforce is added by the ducktail compared to the Touring wing when not extended.

    I'm just curious though - my wing is staying in the original upright location.

    If the is rear wing of the GT3 is there for extra downforce I would think there would have to be some suspension tuning for the extra rear load or is the effect of the wing compared to the Touring's carrera spoiler that small?

    Don't forget that the GT3's aerodynamics are balanced across the front and rear axles.  The touring variant front splitter is similarly modified to compensate for less rear downforce.  Removing the rear wing of the GT3 shifts the aerodynamic loading forward with a corresponding movement of the center of pressure.  That will affect higher speeding handling and braking.   


    Re: 992 GT3

    It would be interesting to get some data re the aerodynamics of the Touring. It somehow seems strange that there should not be any change in suspension and set up vs the GT3. I also wonder (but can’t find) if there were comments from AP re the 991 Touring generation. The effects should be similar in the 992. 


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    Re: 992 GT3

    https://www.autoblog.com/2021/06/22/2022-porsche-911-gt3-manual-legal-california/

    And the manual GT3s will be legal in California now.

    Guess it takes publicity highlighting the existing red tape in the California government in order for them to move with time.

     


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    Porsche 992 GT3 driven on track...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Source: http://www.frozenspeed.com/

    Smiley


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    Whoopsy:

    https://www.autoblog.com/2021/06/22/2022-porsche-911-gt3-manual-legal-california/

    And the manual GT3s will be legal in California now.

    Guess it takes publicity highlighting the existing red tape in the California government in order for them to move with time.

     

    Nick, we eventually get there often ahead of the rest.Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Haha god knows how many laws and regulations are still in ancient time that politicians can't be bothered to update.

     


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Porsche 992 GT3 Touring on road...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Porsche 992 GT3 Touring - Blue 01.jpg

    Porsche 992 GT3 Touring - Blue 02.jpg

    Porsche 992 GT3 Touring - Blue 03.jpg

    Porsche 992 GT3 Touring - Blue 04.jpg

    Porsche 992 GT3 Touring - Blue 05.jpg

    Porsche 992 GT3 Touring - Blue 06.jpg

    Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3

    The painted mouth looks  much better then the black plastic on the GT3. I wonder how many GT3 owners will have that part painted as well. 


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    Re: 992 GT3

    I find the painted mouth looks much better when in dark colors but worse with light colors for some reason.


    Re: 992 GT3

    I think the mouth is a pretty awkward part of the design and the flat black hides it better.  That part is $625 and looks easy to install for those who want a second version (black plastic for Touring or have it painted to match for Wing)


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    Re: 992 GT3

    I agree. I think in GT Silver for eg, the car looks better with more black / silver contrast - so carbon roof, and arguably a black mouth would suit it better. In dark colours, less of an issue.


    Re: 992 GT3

    It actually looks quite good in this video


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    Re: 992 GT3

    That does look nice, but I think Black brake calipers better with those Neodyme wheels...


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Carlos from Spain:

    I find the painted mouth looks much better when in dark colors but worse with light colors for some reason.

    Likewise!


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Currently, placing an order for a Color To Sample GT3, I have a question regarding configuration.

    QE1 Storage Package when ordered together with Q1K Full bucket seats will not include the storage net in the passenger footwell.  If so, what else does the storage package consist of in terms of luggage compartment?

    Does anyone have a clue?


    Re: 992 GT3

    UK dealers receiving early customer allocations of Porsche 992 GT3...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    B7D6B190-352F-4CAD-A10B-8CD6DE810311.jpeg

    ...please stop ordering BLACK WHEELS - as any motoring journalist will tell you - they look terrible in photos! Smiley


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    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    UK dealers receiving early customer allocations of Porsche 992 GT3...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif


    Is there one for crayphile? Smiley  Smiley Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3

    My god, that grey one looks amazing! First time I really love the design of the 992 GT3, probably because you don't see the nostrils and the mouth-like front bumper feature is toned down as well...


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    Re: 992 GT3

    A few customers asked if the suspension on the Porsche 992 GT3 is adjusted for the 992 GT3 Touring...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    BAD588B3-A5AE-49C8-B6B8-DBF00618C2B1.jpeg

    ...are you sure? Smiley

    AAC9E934-1F2A-4CF9-AA46-8E3039DB1859.jpeg

    ...so much for fine-tuning the suspension to match the aerodynamics! It sounds like it must be ok with a ducktail too! Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3

    Porsche 992 GT3 with Martini stripes...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    DE32DCE0-AE44-4D6D-A83E-FE07D36312E7.jpeg

    Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3

    Porsche 992 GT3 in dark blue...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    C739A5E5-289C-493D-9B7E-F7DB7105893A.jpeg

    DFB5339D-D715-4269-9F9A-ECDD6158D3F2.jpeg

    923A3226-A2A5-495E-A558-3556F7F64050.jpeg

    ...great wheels! Smiley

    Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Porsche 992 GT3 with Martini stripes...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    DE32DCE0-AE44-4D6D-A83E-FE07D36312E7.jpeg

    If Porker's old olive got Martini stripes, would that make it a dirty martini? Smiley

    Sorry, it's friday. I'll see myself out now. 


    Re: 992 GT3

    That sounds a lot like "dad" humor. I still enjoy it though.


    Re: 992 GT3

    Enmanuel:
    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Porsche 992 GT3 with Martini stripes...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    DE32DCE0-AE44-4D6D-A83E-FE07D36312E7.jpeg

    If Porker's old olive got Martini stripes, would that make it a dirty martini? Smiley

    Sorry, it's friday. I'll see myself out now. 

    🤣


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