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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Absolutly no problem for a Porsche mechanic to exchange the engines . Look once and a while into your local workshop and you will often see a 911 with the engine out .


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    It was 55 man hours to swap a Cayenne TTS engine FYI...


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    My dealer said they need 15 hours (2 days) to swap the 991 GT3 engine.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    igirl:

    My dealer said they need 15 hours (2 days) to swap the 991 GT3 engine.

     I seen an aircooled 911 receive a new motor in around 45 minutes...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    As I understand the replacement plan, dealers will do the swaps on cars at the dealership and those in PDI/port will be done by German (from Germany) technicians. 

    Also, swapping an engine shouldn't take more than eight hours. It should be less if the original engine has been removed in anticipation of the replacement engine arrival. So if a dealer is told by PAG to expect a replacement engine in five days, it is save to assume the dealer will remove the original engine before that time.


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    igirl:

    I am very surprised about what you say about the Cup 2: I have tested them on my 458 Speciale and they perform very very well!

    Hmmm, did you think you could sneak that in and not have anyone notice (even on a GT3 thread!) - in any case congratulations on the 458 Sp…. maybe a short driving impressions would be nice on the Ferrari threads?? And just one (1) picture??  You will be well placed to compare these two amazing machines.  Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

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    Well... I don't want to bother people with my 458 Speciale in a 911 forum. :)

    Quickly:
    - 991 GT3: I have only driven 1 600 km in it, no track yet, so it is difficult to have a fair and objective review...
    - 458 Speciale: 3 600 km, 3 track days, the car is just awesome and perfect for my use (I had a 458 Italia and 458 Spider before).

    Both cars can rev at 9.000 rpm, have double clutch gearbox, wear Michelin Cup 2 and are made for the track.
    But that's it! They are so different.
    I hope to be able to write a comparison soon... :)


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    wink Amazing - thank you! And enjoy as the warm weather arrives.....


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    reginos:
    Enmanuel:

    so wait, did I miss something or are the dealers installing the new engines? 

    I would't like that at all.

    It is a simple job for a trained technician. I've seen it done several times at authorised workshops for replacement engines after intermediate shaft bearing failures.

    Very well then. I guess I thought ti was going to be a bit more of a hassle. Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    girl can't wait for your comparison!!!!!!!!! SOON!!!! PLEEAAASEEEEEEEE


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    Oh and more pictures please!


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2012 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab. Range Rover V8 on order June14 - GT3 or Huracan to add next......decisions decisions decisions.....


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    EnglishManInNY:

    girl can't wait for your comparison!!!!!!!!! SOON!!!! PLEEAAASEEEEEEEE

    Oops, my fault for getting this thread off-topic!  In any case thank you to RT member igirl for graciously posting the new 458 Speciale…. further reports of which can indeed be added to the existing 458 Speciale thread, on the Ferrari board, for this car…. latest news being that KresoF1 was very impressed with the Speciale as well.  

    Meanwhile, we return, on-topic, to our fascinating and important regularly scheduled programming, entitled "How quickly can Porsche AG build and install GT3 engines?".  Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    The old aircooled engines were a masterpiece of simplicity in terms of removing the engine/transaxle.  Like it was built for a LeMans Pit stop. (It was).

    The 991 is even more compllicated than the 997 - all the plastic parts and body clips which have to be removed and endless connections and fasteners.


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    Progressing...

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Thanks for the update. Is this showing the removal of the engine? I would be interested in knowing how long the entire process takes.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Yes it does, what I have been told it takes about  a day +. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    philgva:

    Yes it does, what I have been told it takes about  a day +. 

    Wow! smiley When are you expected to be back on the road again? (assuming this is your car)


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Actually this is the one from a friend same color but he has the original center exhaust. Mine is schedule to deliver next Saturday, I I guess they will put it on the lift this coming Thursday.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    So just passed to have a coffee at the dealer. Porsche gives 14hr for he engine swap. Since it is the first they will do they will take it easy. Also they are replacing all peripheral screws, joints about 40 new parts. Mine still planned to be ready by end next weeks. Though it was tested on bench, it is recommended to drive easy the first 500km and make sure the engine is at temperature before pushing, normal stuff but since with the frustration some and me included migt push straight lets hold it until the 500km


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    First engine out this morning and the new one awaiting

     


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    Game: can you see the differences between the old and the new engine? :)


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    What a great picture philgva, all the beasts will be back on road very soon.
    any difference between the engines?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Unnecessary huge a$$ silencers, no wonder 911's are getting quieter in music


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    Silencers are indeed huge but the sounds of the engine with valves opened is amazing and can't wait to hear with my new center muffler which is non silenced... I have seen silencer bypass from cargraphics which save about 17kg that is huge. I will see first with the center portion as some track in Europe have noise restrictions.


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    philgva:

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    Is this the new or old engine? Any information on the software updates?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    philgva:

    Actually this is the one from a friend same color but he has the original center exhaust. Mine is schedule to deliver next Saturday, I I guess they will put it on the lift this coming Thursday.

    Great news! Smiley 

    Can I ask when your car was first delivered? Then I can relate how fast this is going. Mine was originally delivered end of december, but have no news yet about the new engine will arrive shortly.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Hi everybody, 

    Today I got feedback from a friend who has a car tune company. I asked him about the Sharkwerks bypass exhaust. He said it was good but his advice was I should better wait and go for a Akrapovic exhaust. Because of weight saving and in his opinion better sound.

    Since I have no experience in this matter I would like to know what you think about it. 

    Thanks, 

    H


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    - HS (Belgium)  -  '14 Porsche 991 GT3 (oct build) - '06 BMW 335I Coupe  


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Akrapovic are the best. But Sharkworks bypass is stainless steel, weights only a couple of Kgs and uses teh factory tips so looks "stock". its $1000US. Akropovic will make a complete system replacement (headers, side mufflers, catalytic converters) for 4000+ Euro but not sure if they will make only a rear third muffler delete pipe. If they do I still expect it will be twice the price of the Sharkworks unit.

    Also consider the Cargraphics bypass as I believe that is also a good option too.


     
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