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    Re: 992 GT3

    RC:

    911 Touring Cabriolet...perfect and it won't bother GT3 owners.

    but it will bother Speedster owners Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Targa Tim:
    RC:

    911 Touring Cabriolet...perfect and it won't bother GT3 owners.

    but it will bother Speedster owners Smiley

    I wonder if that’s the reason the new GT3 has exactly the same power as the Speedster, instead of 10hp more like the same engine made in the last GT3 RS??


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    Re: 992 GT3

    You need to show the gap with the coming 4.2L to justify its horrendous pricing. If you think the GT3 is already a serious bump, get ready for the RS. 


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    Re: 992 GT3

    the-missile:

    You need to show the gap with the coming 4.2L to justify its horrendous pricing. If you think the GT3 is already a serious bump, get ready for the RS. 

    4.2 a definite ?


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Regarding the price increase. It's not as bad as one may think.

    Here's the percentage increase for each GT3 generation (and facelift). Prices can be found on Wikipedia for the german market:  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911_GT3

    • 996.1 -> 996.2 (+11,3%)
    • 996.2 -> 997.1 (+5,8%)
    • 997.1 -> 997.2 (+8,2%)
    • 997.2 -> 991.1 (+17,4%)
    • 991.1 -> 991.2 (+11,0%)
    • 991.2 -> 992.1 (+9,9%)

    Biggest increase by far was the jump from 997 to 991. The average is approx. 10%.


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    Re: 992 GT3

    The technology gain found with the 992 is definitely worth the 10% gain in price. 


    Re: 992 GT3

    reginos:

    Dolomite Silver. This new Porsche silver has a blueish undertone. Similar but not as blue as the old Polar Silver.

     

    Yes. Dolomite Silver's blue undertone is sort of like a very light sky-blue. Doesn't show up all the time.

    Been starring at my Dolomite Silver Taycan for quite a few months now Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Targa Tim:
    RC:

    911 Touring Cabriolet...perfect and it won't bother GT3 owners.

    but it will bother Speedster owners Smiley

     

    You mean like how 911R owners got annoyed with the last GT3 Touring? Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3

    RC:

    I don't know why but that blue of the introduction car...my wife hates it (I actually like it a lot). I mean she really hates it, I don't have a clue why. Usually, she isn't that touchy with colors but this blue seems to be like a red flag for her. Smiley Smiley

    It could the name Smiley Shark Blue. A subconscious thing.

    When I do watersports and the waters are little dark in late afternoon the idea of a shark comes to my mind and I momentarily shiver Smiley

     


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Whoopsy:
    Targa Tim:
    RC:

    911 Touring Cabriolet...perfect and it won't bother GT3 owners.

    but it will bother Speedster owners Smiley

     

    You mean like how 911R owners got annoyed with the last GT3 Touring? Smiley

    Smiley Smiley 

    The Speedster looks different than a cabriolet and it is a different model (991).


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    Re: 992 GT3

    If GT3 Spyder is seeing a birth. It will be a 2 seater only. 


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    Re: 992 GT3

    It sounds like the Porsche 992 GT3 Touring will have a painted front bumper...  C7BEAB03-A272-4B0C-AF73-D01AEAA5AA36.gif

    FC1850F6-A801-4CBC-A990-52837B7DB8BA.jpeg

    ...indeed, this 992 GT3 Touring mule appears to have a painted front bumper — see the reflection... Smiley

    ...thanks to Andreas Preuninger! Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3

    the-missile:

    If GT3 Spyder is seeing a birth. It will be a 2 seater only. 

    Of course, I highly doubt the Touring will get four seats either. Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3

    RC:
    the-missile:

    If GT3 Spyder is seeing a birth. It will be a 2 seater only. 

    Of course, I highly doubt the Touring will get four seats either. Smiley

    E2DE61C1-D11D-47AD-AF1C-83078EFDBA06.jpeg

    GT3 owner: “I would prefer having back seats than a watch...”

    Andreas Preuninger: “you are not alone and we heard you

    Smiley

     


    Re: 992 GT3

    I've seen this but let's just wait to see how the Touring is going to materialize. Smiley May optional...for an additional 5k? Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Apparently Porsche can install rear seats with insurance approval for around 7k.


    Re: 992 GT3

    Man I hope they put rear seats in the touring! Then it would be a no brainer, it's the only thing that holds me back from the GT3, because of my young kids.  The 992 S I have now can act as a daily driver to take me and the family on a trip, but selling that for a gt3, takes away that possibility.


    Re: 992 GT3

    Moser:

    Man I hope they put rear seats in the touring! Then it would be a no brainer, it's the only thing that holds me back from the GT3, because of my young kids.  The 992 S I have now can act as a daily driver to take me and the family on a trip, but selling that for a gt3, takes away that possibility.

    +1

    With rear seats I might be interested in “Fat Booty” too indecision


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    Re: 992 GT3

    996FourEss:

    Apparently Porsche can install rear seats with insurance approval for around 7k.

    In Germany? I would be very surprised. It was possible many years ago but Porsche themselves put a stop to it by not providing the necessary documents for TÜV approval anymore.


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    Re: 992 GT3

    bluelines:
    Moser:

    Man I hope they put rear seats in the touring! Then it would be a no brainer, it's the only thing that holds me back from the GT3, because of my young kids.  The 992 S I have now can act as a daily driver to take me and the family on a trip, but selling that for a gt3, takes away that possibility.

    +1

    With rear seats I might be interested in “Fat Booty” too indecision

    If i can handle a "Fat Booty" then so can you Smiley


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: 992 GT3

    throt:
    bluelines:
    Moser:

    Man I hope they put rear seats in the touring! Then it would be a no brainer, it's the only thing that holds me back from the GT3, because of my young kids.  The 992 S I have now can act as a daily driver to take me and the family on a trip, but selling that for a gt3, takes away that possibility.

    +1

    With rear seats I might be interested in “Fat Booty” too indecision

    If i can handle a "Fat Booty" then so can you Smiley

    Smiley Smiley

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    Re: 992 GT3

    I don't think the GT3 is a car for transport but a car for fun driving. The 2 seats are more than adequate for spirited drives on B roads alone or with a keen friend or family member and for circuits for those who enjoy this hobby.

    Rear seats allude to carrying your wife and kids on trips. And if that is the case and someone insists on a sports Porsche,  there are better 911s for that remit. GTS and Turbo.

    I see a GT3 as an additional car, not as a substitute car.


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    Re: 992 GT3

    RC:
    throt:
    bluelines:
    Moser:

    Man I hope they put rear seats in the touring! Then it would be a no brainer, it's the only thing that holds me back from the GT3, because of my young kids.  The 992 S I have now can act as a daily driver to take me and the family on a trip, but selling that for a gt3, takes away that possibility.

    +1

    With rear seats I might be interested in “Fat Booty” too indecision

    If i can handle a "Fat Booty" then so can you Smiley

    Smiley Smiley

    1614770476342giphy.gif

    Smiley Smiley

    Shake it baby Smiley


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: 992 GT3

    I agree that is the concept of the GT3, but times are changing and the cars are now becoming more and more driveable as daily drivers. When you start offering a touring version, then why not offer the rear seats as well. 


    Re: 992 GT3

    reginos:

    I don't think the GT3 is a car for transport but a car for fun driving. The 2 seats are more than adequate for spirited drives on B roads alone or with a keen friend or family member and for circuits for those who enjoy this hobby.

    Rear seats allude to carrying your wife and kids on trips. And if that is the case and someone insists on a sports Porsche,  there are better 911s for that remit. GTS and Turbo.

    I see a GT3 as an additional car, not as a substitute car.

    It can be both but I agree, most real sports cars are usually additional fun cars, not daily drivers (with few exceptions).

    I understand why people don't want a 992 Turbo S for example, even if this is an excellent car: Once you've gone high revving n/a, you don't want to settle for something else. Smiley Unless you have more than one sports car in your garage.


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    Re: 992 GT3

    The GT3 is a more noisy car given its engine. Moreover, it has a harder suspension including firmer ball  joints, less noise insulation and thinner windows.

    All these will make a family ride a kind of punishment for family and passengers notwithstanding the joy for the driver.......and this until the wife starts pestering for the discomfort Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Moser:

    I agree that is the concept of the GT3, but times are changing and the cars are now becoming more and more driveable as daily drivers. When you start offering a touring version, then why not offer the rear seats as well. 

    Agreed, the 911 GT3 is a great car for touring around in!  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    In the same way that the “Club Sport” pack is a good option for some GT3 customers, the “Rear Seat” option will be a great option for many GT3 Touring customers!  Smiley

    It is a similar discussion as to whether a GT3 should have PDK or Manual gearbox. The answer is for Porsche to offer both options and let their customers decide! Smiley

    AP and FW will have a friendly side-bet on the take up rate for Porsche 992 GT3 Touring customers... Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3

    Agreed! Give us options porsche dam you!


    Re: 992 GT3

    reginos:

    I don't think the GT3 is a car for transport but a car for fun driving. The 2 seats are more than adequate for spirited drives on B roads alone or with a keen friend or family member and for circuits for those who enjoy this hobby.

    Rear seats allude to carrying your wife and kids on trips. And if that is the case and someone insists on a sports Porsche,  there are better 911s for that remit. GTS and Turbo.

    I see a GT3 as an additional car, not as a substitute car.

    You don't have little boys do you?

    My little guys are 10 and 6. It doesn't last long. Soon they wouldn't fit in the back anyways but for now, you can't take one and not the other, maybe if you're going to the store, but not for a fun drive. So if I want to take either of them I have to be able to take both of them. 

    If I want to take them to a track day they both have to get in the car OR I need to get a trailer again which is something I don't have the room to do nor the desire. If I get a trailer I"ll be done with it and buy a radical for a track toy. 

    I don't really want to get a turbo, it's a perfect car but a little too perfect. I also don't think a standard 911 is enough car for me on the track and I'd be worried about thrashing it. I grew up around race cars and driving totally inappropriate cars on the street (rose joints, harnesses etc...) so driving a modern GT3 is still normal and quite frankly about as rough a ride as a mid-80's 911 with mild suspension work. In other words what I grew up with my dad daily driving 12 months of the year. I'd be quite happy daily driving a GT3 Touring. 


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    Re: 992 GT3

    Mithras:
    reginos:

    I don't think the GT3 is a car for transport but a car for fun driving. The 2 seats are more than adequate for spirited drives on B roads alone or with a keen friend or family member and for circuits for those who enjoy this hobby.

    Rear seats allude to carrying your wife and kids on trips. And if that is the case and someone insists on a sports Porsche,  there are better 911s for that remit. GTS and Turbo.

    I see a GT3 as an additional car, not as a substitute car.

    You don't have little boys do you?

    My little guys are 10 and 6. It doesn't last long. Soon they wouldn't fit in the back anyways but for now, you can't take one and not the other, maybe if you're going to the store, but not for a fun drive. So if I want to take either of them I have to be able to take both of them. 

    If I want to take them to a track day they both have to get in the car OR I need to get a trailer again which is something I don't have the room to do nor the desire. If I get a trailer I"ll be done with it and buy a radical for a track toy. 

    I don't really want to get a turbo, it's a perfect car but a little too perfect. I also don't think a standard 911 is enough car for me on the track and I'd be worried about thrashing it. I grew up around race cars and driving totally inappropriate cars on the street (rose joints, harnesses etc...) so driving a modern GT3 is still normal and quite frankly about as rough a ride as a mid-80's 911 with mild suspension work. In other words what I grew up with my dad daily driving 12 months of the year. I'd be quite happy daily driving a GT3 Touring. 

    With all your parameters, criteria and preferences a 992 GT3 T with rear seats fits very well.

    I am sure that the Touring will have the expensive option of rear seats because this is what customers have been calling for, after the initial experiment.

    As it was on the 991 Touring is a GT3 with a  "wing delete" option.

     


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