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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    nberry:
    Carlos from Spain:

    Nick, its not about nostalgia, they appeal to many who never owned or even lived when those cars were in production. Its a different experience that is all, one that you cannot substitute with a new car, you may not be able to appreciate it, but dismissing it as throwing money away due to nostalgia and not being able to value their appeal to others is a bit narrow minded IMO, like saying that sportscars are penis enlargers and go buy a confortable sedan since they are much better for street driving. There is beauty in a classic 911, and the way they drive is very different, to each his own wink


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    That's exactly what they are.Smiley 

    I suppose in Crayphile position being the car enthusiast he is with all the incredible cars that he owns, a refurbished relic would fit nicely in his collection. Another way to look at it is it is basically a new car with a very old styling. That would appeal to some but not me.Smiley

     

    This absolutely epic video is for you Nick! Smiley

    Wolf of the Autostrada from Kidston.TV on Vimeo.

     


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    kiss


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    I could have bought my father in law black Contach for $60k and his yellow Diablo for $65k... Ouch.


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Fantastic


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    So cool video....love it


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Great video. Balboni fixes the Ferrari!  Smart move to go back for the girl. Clear winner. 


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Leawood911:

     Smart move to go back for the girl. Clear winner. 

    My thought exactly when i saw it Smiley


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Do you got the same sensation? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWhN5Kywgxg


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    in spades, thanks for postingkiss


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Nice video from Petrolicious

    https://youtu.be/KWhN5Kywgxg


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Seatbelt ? angel


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Dynamics and Lightweighting Study Revealed at Goodwood Festival of Speed ‘DLS’ Undertaken with Williams Advanced Engineering and Other Partners

    A Relentless Pursuit of Excellence through a Lightweight Philosophy

    • Festival of Speed sees the results of the Dynamics and Lightweighting Study on display for the first time.
    • One car will run in the hillclimb event while a second DLS restoration, accompanied by six further Porsche 911s Reimagined by Singer Vehicle Design, will be displayed outside Goodwood House

    GROVE, United Kingdom July 12, 2018 – The results of California-based boutique restoration house Singer Vehicle Design’s Dynamic and Lightweighting Study (DLS) will be shown at the 2018 Goodwood Festival of Speed, July 12-15, in West Sussex, England. DLS is a client-inspired collaboration with Williams Advanced Engineering and a formation of technical partners in pursuit of the most advanced air-cooled Porsche 911 in the world. The unique and highly anticipated results will be part of both a static showcase outside Goodwood House and the Michelin Supercar Paddock Hillclimb Run.

    For those unable to be at Goodwood, DLS will travel to the US to be at Monterey Car Week beginning August 23.

    Link: http://singervehicledesign.com/dynamics-and-lightweighting-study-revealed-at-goodwood-festival-of-speed-dls-undertaken-with-williams-advanced-engineering-and-other-partners/


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    I'm not sure about that new Singer, it lost too much of the incredibly beautiful elegance the original had. Will surely be a blast to drive, but they took it maybe a step too far with the addenda?


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Sure, it's not as elegant as the other cars but it'll definitely be exhilarating to drive. Also the details in this car are incredible. That side window intake is so incredibly cool. 


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Enmanuel:

    Sure, it's not as elegant as the other cars but it'll definitely be exhilarating to drive. Also the details in this car are incredible. That side window intake is so incredibly cool. 

    Agree, can you imagine the induction noise at 9000+ rpm??? The airbox seems to be the rear shelf of the passenger compartment so nothing but a thin sheet of carbon between you and the 4 valve heads Smiley


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    I really admire the craftsmanship of the Singers!


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    I admire the craftsmanship, and sure it will be a blast to drive, but I am with Frank; between the original singer and this, it lost a lot of its appeal to me, it doesn’t look half as good as the “normal” Singer....


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Joost:

    I admire the craftsmanship, and sure it will be a blast to drive, but I am with Frank; between the original singer and this, it lost a lot of its appeal to me, it doesn’t look half as good as the “normal” Singer....

    +1


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    "This is it: the 911 reimagined by Singer and Williams" (BBC Top Gear)

    NB: Includes video walkaround, per link below... Smiley
     

    Singer's 'Dynamics and Lightweighting Study' is a $1.8m vision of the ultimate air-cooled 911

    Rob Dickinson, former musician and genius behind Singer Vehicle Design, is walking towards me in an enormous, empty warehouse, sparking a fag. He’s wearing khaki shorts and cap, a wrinkled white t-shirt and dog-eared trainers. He stretches out his right hand, we exchange pleasantries then it’s straight to it, discussing the car that he’s been obsessing over for the last four years, and the passion just starts flowing out of him.

    We’ve managed to intercept both Rob and the first example of his most ambitious project to date, on their way to Goodwood. The car you’re currently gawping at is the product of a collaboration with Williams Advanced Engineering to develop the ultimate, no-expense-spared, air-cooled 911 – the snappily-named Dynamics and Lighweighting Study. Renderings were released months ago, but is the first time anyone outside the company has seen the finished product. Rob himself only clapped eyes on it two days ago at Williams’ facility in Oxforshire, where no more than 75 examples will be reimagined.

    “I’m very very pleased,” says Rob, taking a contemplative drag. “It looks like the drawings, which is always helpful.”

    I take him back to the beginning, to the dream that sparked all this off. “What would a classic Porsche 911 look like if we touched it with a Formula One team? That was the Hollywood pitch. To bestow upon, what we think is the most important sports car in the world, the golden benefits of the modern age. Properly, do it properly with a proper budget and proper support.”

    But ideas of this magnitude are nothing without authenticity, which is why Rob knew if he wanted the right names attached to the program he had to act fast. “The question was how could we present the most advanced, lightweight, air-cooled 911 that the world will ever see? And crucially, while there were still people who had touched the original back in the 60s – principally Hans Mezger and Norbert Singer. They were consultants, they kept an eye on us and kept us honest.”

    Williams Advanced Engineering has been Singer’s major partner in all this, entirely redesigning the front and rear suspension (but keeping the traditional trailing arm set up at the rear), the brake system (incorporating Brembo CCM-R discs, the same compound you’ll find on a Bugatti Chiron), conducting a full aero study to optimise every square inch of the car’s surface, building the world’s finest air-cooled engine (more on that in a bit), and putting the car through an intensive development program, something not entirely familiar to Rob.

    A closer look at the 911 reimagined by Singer and Williams

    “Whereas we’re quite rock and roll back in California, here in England there’s a bit of a culture difference and that’s been a learning curve for us. It’s good, though, the discipline of going through proper development cycles.” And once Rob was working closely with Williams he starting picking up the phone to a list of “hero” companies that were synonymous with the 911 over the last 50 years.

    Michelin agreed to make a bespoke 295 Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyre, stretched a little for a 11.75 rim to give the perfect curve on the side wall, something Rob’s famously obsessed with. “It’s where the rubber hits the road, it’s where it all starts. If you can get this right, you’re off to a good start.” Brembo were on board for the brakes, Momo were happy to make a sensational bespoke carbon-fibre steering wheel, XTC produced the adjustable dampers, Hewland worked on the six-speed manual, Recaro delivered on the seats, and BBS crafted perhaps the most striking feature of all, those deep-dish 18-inch wheels.

    “We wanted to celebrate the 1973 Carrera RSR, the wide body version of the ’73 RS. It was iconic for many reasons but its deep dish fixed wheels were its calling card. BBS had never done a Fuchs wheel, and we thought it was a great opportunity to reimagine the Fuchs wheel at its apogee, which is forged magnesium with a centre lock. We looked at carbon wheels, but it didn’t make sense.”  

    In terms of aero, the ducktail spoiler was non-negotiable, but Williams’ job was to make it actually work. On development cars the air was detaching at the trailing edge of the roof meaning only a tiny fraction was actually hitting and working on the wing. The solution was a channel chiselled into the roof and a beautifully-integrated air bridge that keeps the flow stuck all the way down the rear screen and hitting the ducktail, complete with a 5mm gurney flap, square on. That, coupled with a functional carbon-rear diffuser that arcs away under the tailpipes and a carbon front splitter, means proper downforce, perfectly balanced between the front and rear.   

    But amid all this engineering cleverness, it’s the engine that takes the biscuit – a 4.0-litre, air-cooled, naturally-aspirated flat six with four-valve heads revving to over 9,000rpm and producing around 500bhp, fed by two ram air intakes in the rear quarter windows. It’s also a piece of pure sculpture in magnesium and carbon-fibre, with a titillating look at the pipes visible through the rear mesh. 

    “Fantastic as modern 911s are, we didn’t want to turn this into a GT3 RS, we wanted to retain the essence of the air-cooled magic, but burnish wherever it could be with this fantastic focus. It’s an absolute monster, it really is. It sounds very unusual.”

    Interestingly, Rob has resisted the temptation to experience the engine in one of the two prototypes, so far. “I’ve talked to people who I trust deeply and they’ve told me about it, but I’m deliberately not driving it. I want to get in the ‘finished’ car like a customer, then I’ll be the judge of whether it’s finished or not.”

    I think the world is a better place for nut jobs like us to be around doing this

    The interior is as spectacular as all Rob’s 964-based creations, and riddled with insanely cool touches. Like the rear-facing ‘S’ logo on the rear strut brace, the gold-trimmed central rev-counter that’s “rather ostentatious, but worth it” and the balsa wood insert in the carbon-fibre gear lever - a nod towards the 917 racing car from the 60s. The exposed linkage is pure car porn, but has a purpose, too. “We wanted to raise the gearlever closer to the wheel, so decided to expose what’s underneath, the things that have to be there for functional reasons, to spell out the lightweight nature of the car.” A fully-stripped version that dips below 1000kgs will be offered, but the half-way house of this first car “feels about right” for Rob.

    Feels like a huge privilege to me, just standing here, staring at it with the man who made it possible. We often talk about attention to detail being the deciding factor between successful design and greatness, and Rob, perhaps more than anyone else in our industry has the obsession it takes not to get things right, but to get them perfect. Fitting, then, that his mantra ‘everything is important’ is inscribed on the sill plaque.

    But perfection doesn’t come cheap. Prices start at $1.8m, a number Rob gives up under duress, but is quick to defend: “That’s as cheap as we can do it for the madness that’s gone into it. Trust me, no one’s getting rich making these things for what it’s worth. I think the world is a better place for nut jobs like us to be around doing this, and there are of course other great companies having a go as well.”

    But there’s a deeper meaning to this car, a legacy that Rob wants to leave behind. “It’s difficult for me to say this without sounding like a little bit of a d***, but I do think these 75 cars will be historically important in years to come. Getting this group of people together to celebrate this iconic machine, in such a focused way, with such a proper budget, won’t happen again.”

    Video Link: https://youtu.be/HU4iyYeVIc4

    Top Gear Link: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/it-911-reimagined-singer-and-williams


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    I love it!


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Me2 love it!


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    I’d buy one if I found an extra $2M under the couch cushions indecision


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    Masterpiece 


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    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    @DJM  - thanks for these photos  - especially of the red one Smiley. It was a special thrill to drive it up the hill at Goodwood. 

    The DLS as some have pointed out is a very different beast design and purpose wise. I suspect the performance figures will turn out to be pretty special. I thought the white one looked spectacular in person.


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    "The Cruel Irony Of Singer's DLS"

    It’s pretty hard to steal the show at the Goodwood Festival of Speed. Such is the magnitude and importance of this annual pilgrimage that every single major manufacturer and brand within the industry strives to do that one thing that will get people talking.

    But by God have Singer had a good crack at it this year.

    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-9699

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    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-9679

    No doubt you’ll have already seen the images that have been retweeted and regrammed a million times, and read the praise that countless motoring pundits have lauded over this astonishingly advanced and engineered air-cooled 964 911. You’ll be glad to hear then, that the Singer Dynamics and Lightweight Study, or DLS for short, which has been conceived in conjunction with the very clever people at Williams Advanced Engineering, is every bit as gorgeous in the metal and carbon fibre as it appears in those glossy press images.

    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-0658

    I feel I can speak on behalf of the majority of the Speedhunters team when I say we’ve long been huge fans of Singer’s incredible 911 restorations. The California-based specialist has a proven track record in tastefully and faithfully reimagining Porsche’s beloved 911, by installing modern technology and advanced features into these appreciating classics.

    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-0677

    While Singer make it very clear that this is not a Singer 911 and is very much a Porsche creation with the Singer touch, for all intents and purposes when Singer get their hands on a 911 it’s a completely different machine by the time it emerges out the other side.

    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-9686

    The DLS takes the Singer philosophy and cranks it up to 11. In truth, Singer has done what Singer is best at: elegant design, modernised features and lavish finishes. It’s somehow made one of the classiest Porsche designs even more classy, without detracting from Benjamin Dimson’s original design.

    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-9721

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    It’s William’s involvement here that makes the DLS so special. The two companies worked alongside legendary Porsche engineer Hans Mezger to develop the DLS’s 500hp, 9,000rpm-capable 4.0-litre flat-six motor. Inside that glistening and perfectly-finished engine you’ll find dual overhead cams and titanium valves, a redesigned lubrication system, and a revised fuelling system.

    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-9700

    Air intakes are elegantly and seamlessly built into the rear quarter windows, force-feeding air down carbon fibre funnels and through lightweight throttle bodies into the motor. The smaller 6-speed gearbox has been designed to all the engine to sit further forward in the chassis, offering improved weight distribution.

    Every single component has been at the receiving end of more engineering resources, knowledge and backing than any other air-cooled Porsche we’ve seen before.

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    It doesn’t stop there either. The exterior has received some notable changes, but this is more than a bodykit. It was developed in carbon fibre using computational fluid dynamics – much like is used in Formula 1 – for maximum aerodynamic efficiency. A new front splitter guides air through the cooling system whilst removing front lift, while the roof channel and rear spoiler add downward pressure over the driven wheels.

    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-0666

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    I could go on… 18-inch forged magnesium BBS centre-lock wheels, Brembo carbon-ceramic brakes, remote adjustable damping, advanced Bosch ABS system, traction control, ESP, user-controllable driving modes, redesigned suspension components, and more high end, lightweight and tactile interior components than you can imagine.

    Quite simply, it’s the perfect 911.

    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-9705

    With the demand for classic Porsches, be them standard or restomodded, so high at present, Singer’s DLS takes this fascination to a new level. There is a crux, however: the US$1.8 million price tag ensures that the DLS is likely to remain in the hands of very few. It’s a level of exclusivity that upstages any kind of waiting list or cost for any new Porsche. It’s restomodding taken to the extreme, and a degree of engineering that we’re not likely to see anyone else come close to.

    Goodwood FOS 2018 by Jordan Butters Speedhunters-0693

    While Singer are keen on showing the public what the DLS can do, and have one running up the hill at Goodwood this weekend, in reality no DLS sold is likely to ever see the road. Ironically, it excels in a market that’s made possible purely because of the popularity of its ilk, and without widespread demand for the very car it’s based on, the DLS would never exist.

    Link:  http://www.speedhunters.com/2018/07/cruel-irony-singers-dls/


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    So what does that 4.0-litre air-cooled Williams-Mezger-Porsche flat-six engine sound like... Smiley

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    Video Link: http://mobile.twitter.com/askgeez/status/1018206798841565185/video/1

    ...turn up the volume! Smiley


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    Singer 4.0 driven up the hill at Goodwood Festival of Speed by Chris Harris...

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    1531667859401image.jpeg Link: http://mobile.twitter.com/harrismonkey/status/1018479180852363264

    Video Link:   https://mobile.twitter.com/GoodwoodRRC/status/1018453822488932353/video/1

    Smiley


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    Cool video of Singer display at Goodwood...

    Video Link: https://youtu.be/0LnMdUVDgh0

    Smiley


    Re: Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design

    IMO compared to this, almost any other super car looks ordinary! 

     


     
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