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    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    You are absolutely right but these weight figures are pretty similar within classes, the wiring harness in a 7-series or S-class will have an at least similar weight. 


    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    RC:
    Lars997:
    The adaptive cruise isn't 10kg. My brother in law is responsible at Bosch for Automotive parts, he just asked on my behalf the development department and they said apprx 1,5 kg and this includes already the wiring. It a small box with the radar, and a control unit, further on they use the parking sensor for slow speed control.

    The fact that customer are using the features a different way is kind of rectifying the long extra list, some love specific gadgets, others don't need them ;)


     

    Distronic (Mercedes): Three (!) radar sensors...head unit...front mask (weights more because of the main Distronic cover and improvements to withstand wind force)...wiring...1.5 kg sounds kind of light in my opinion. Especially since your brother in law claims that it is only one small box with the radar. Smiley

    Regarding wiring: Just out of curiosity, what do you think the complete wiring (wiring harness) of a Panamera weights? 

     

     

    You probably didnt understand right - he claims it is only one Radar sensor for the long distance and 2 additional ultrasonic dectectors for the short range (which are in the same time the parking sensors). Just called him and asked me I would be nuts thinking they are using 3 radar sensors, this would be much to expensive! And again - yes 1.5 kg, the small box with the radar should be below 500 gramm (just check and see that thing, its really a small plastic box not much larger than a cigarette box). 


    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    Is it just me or is this a strange discussion for a forum ostensibly dedicated to the joys of owning and driving SPORTS CARS?

    As I said to the last salesman who asked me if I was sure I didn't want to order cruise control and park distance control: no thank you, my right foot is my cruise control and I'm not blind - if I didn't like driving, I'd employ a chauffeur to drive my car and open the doors for me while I sit in the back seat.  Just saying.  Smiley


    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    25 years ago we discussed power steering, 15 years ago we discussed ABS, 5 years ago PDK, now cruise control. The Times They Are a-Changin’. 

    I would rather prefer to spend my money for this feature than to order heavy leather for the dashboard or roof.  Especially if the car is used as daily driver and you live in an area with heavy traffic.


    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    PureBlue:




    if I didn't like driving, I'd employ a chauffeur to drive my car and open the doors for me while I sit in the back seat.  Just saying.  Smiley





    ...well, the personnel costs are much higher in Europe
    :-) :-)


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    Kind regards, Conny 



    Porsche 997.2 Turbo S  *  BMW X5 M


     


    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    PureBlue:

    Is it just me or is this a strange discussion for a forum ostensibly dedicated to the joys of owning and driving SPORTS CARS?

    As I said to the last salesman who asked me if I was sure I didn't want to order cruise control and park distance control: no thank you, my right foot is my cruise control and I'm not blind - if I didn't like driving, I'd employ a chauffeur to drive my car and open the doors for me while I sit in the back seat.  Just saying.  Smiley

    You are aware that for some sports car fans, even the 911 is considered to be a GT? Smiley 

    No, I don't feel that way but I certainly argued a lot about this matter with various people.

    Times are changing, even manufacturers of so called light weight sports started to equip their cars with ABS, ESP and power assisted steering systems, hell...even A/C sometimes.

    Do you really think I want to drive a 2.2 ton "sports car"? I would love to drive a GT3 RS instead but what to do with my family and the kids then? Smiley

    People are also changing, I'm getting older...and (hopefully) wiser  and this also means that several different cars don't really make sense from a financial point of view, unless of course could afford them.

    For me, the definition of a sports car has changed a lot over the past decade. It is however not easy to accept it, I agree.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (June 2012 delivery), Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    Different strokes for different folks...

    Now back to the OT, I'm HAPPY they are offering soft-close doors.  Hopefully the US market sees a similar timeframe? 

    -Keith


    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    Just checked and it's available.  :)


    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    Already? With an small delay of maybe 8 years....
    :-)
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    Kind regards, Conny 

    Porsche 997.2 Turbo S  *  BMW X5 M
     

    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    I just hope that the soft close door option is not priced too low in the US. Must keep the neighbors in their place ya know.kiss


    Re: Panamera - New option: Soft Close Doors

    I tried the soft close doors on the Platinum Edition Panamera at the LA Auto Show.  Pretty nice feature actually--an elegant touch if one likes that sort of thing.  I doubt i would order it, but many will...


     
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