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    To me it looks like a safety catch. The clip is there as is the post. This is clearly not a normal rear lid but something thats modified for whatever car they are testing. As far as the rear aero goes it looks like a turbo rear bumper with cammo. Not sure what this car is. It may be a hybrid or plug in hybrid test car. But I don't think anything in this picture gives it away.

    -J


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    GT3 RS debut before the GT3 is even available? I doubt it. Seems dumb.


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    noone1:

    GT3 RS debut before the GT3 is even available?

    Take a look at the historic precedents, for example...

    • The Porsche 997 GT3 was unveiled at the Geneva Motor Show In March 2006...   burnout.gif
    • The Porsche 997 GT3 RS was unveiled at the Paris Motor Show in September 2006... driving.gif

    The order book for the 991 GT3 is in good shape. The target customer base are certainly ready for the 991 GT3 RS to be announced and Porsche dealers are understandably keen to start converting letters of intent into customer deposits. 

    It will also be good to have an exciting "surprise" unveiling for the 50th anniversary celebrations of the Porsche 911.

    You will have noticed that the product cycle at Porsche has been fine-tuned. Feedback from existing Porsche customers suggested that high-end models should be announced earlier in the product lifecycle. For example, the 991 Turbo S was announced on the same day as the 991 Turbo, rather than towards the end of the model cycle.

    As an aside, over at Audi, you might have also noticed that the policy to only build a single RS model at any point in time is no longer the case.

    Porsche are also looking to expand the Cayman range with a Cayman GTS expected to be unveiled (along with the new Macan) at the LA Auto Show in November 2013...

    Smiley SmileySmiley


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    You clearly have a point there... Smiley

    I actually start believing you're right! Smiley Smiley

    Did I say that? That's not coming out of my mouth very often! LOLSmiley Smiley

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    But BC GTS, what about the Targa? You point to the 2006 Paris Motor Show when the 997.1 GT3 RS was unveiled, so did the Targa range in that show...


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    RodoRS:

    But BC GTS, what about the Targa? You point to the 2006 Paris Motor Show when the 997.1 GT3 RS was unveiled, so did the Targa range in that show...

    RodoRS,

    Given that the Frankfurt Motor Show is the Porsche 911's official 50th anniversary, it would seem reasonable to expect a broad range of 991 models to be on display -- which could potentially include the 991 Targa models.

    However, that may depend on whether the US is expected to be the most important market for the 991 Targa range -- in which case it could be unveiled at the LA Auto Show in November.

    From a marketing perspective -- to get the most attention for Porsche at the 50th anniversary of the 911 in Frankfurt -- you could even make a case for Porsche displaying the entire 991 range... Smiley

    Smiley SmileySmiley


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    Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires with Porsche-specific "N0" designation...

    Newly Developed Tires for the Porsche Carrera GT

     
    Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires with Porsche-specific "N0" designation
     
    (16 August 2013)
     
    Atlanta. Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, based in Stuttgart, has developed a new tire for the Carrera GT in partnership with tire manufacturer Michelin. The new tire once again noticeably enhances the handling of the 1,270 versions of the super sports car built between 2003 and 2006. The new Michelin Pilot Super Sport tire, which now replaces the current Pilot Sport PS2 tire on the Carrera GT, brings together the findings of ten years' worth of tire development to give drivers of the Carrera GT noticeably improved handling, even faster lap times and a more harmonious driving experience overall.
     
    Drivers will even see benefits in relation to the stability of the Porsche model at its top speed of 330 km/h, as well as its behavior at high lateral acceleration speeds. This is all down to the new structure of the tire, which, of course, features the Porsche specification "N0" on the sidewalls. The tread compound of the Pilot Super Sport tire, which is manufactured on the same production line as Michelin racing tires, is based on "dual-compound" technology. With this technology, different rubber compounds are used for the inside and outside of the tread. This concept offers maximum grip on bends and highly precise steering behavior. What's more, the belt is made from an especially durable mix of aramid fibers, which are five times lighter than steel but deliver the same tensile strength. In addition, the variable contact area distributes the pressure evenly across the tire, meaning as much of the tread as possible is always in contact with the asphalt under any driving conditions.
     
    The new Carrera GT tires are available now in 265/35 ZR 19 98Y "N0" and 335/30 ZR 20 108Y "N0" dimensions. Alongside optimized performance criteria, these tires offer the cost-effective side-effect of increased mileage: Compared to the previous tire, mileage is up to 10% higher on normal roads, and even as much as 20% higher when the tires are used on tough race tracks. The new tire also improves braking performance, showing that, even after ten years, Porsche is still working just as hard to look after drivers of its older models as it does to look after drivers of its new vehicles.
     
     

    Apparently the Michelin Pilot Super Sport will be available "N rated" in other sizes later in the year...

    MICHELIN PILOT SUPER SPORT

    Width / Height / Rim / Load / Speed / Specification / Fuel / Wet / Noise
     
    205 45 R 17 88 ZR(Y) XL | * F A 71dB
    205 40 R 18 86 ZR(Y) XL F A 71dB
    215 40 R 18 89 ZR(Y) XL F A 71dB
    225 45 R 18 95 ZR(Y) XL C A 71dB
    225 40 R 18 88 Y * F B 71dB
    225 40 R 19 93 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    225 35 R 19 88 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    235 45 R 18 94 ZR(Y) F A 71dB
    235 40 R 19 96 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    235 35 R 19 91 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    235 30 R 19 86 ZR(Y) XL F A 71dB
    235 35 R 20 88 ZR(Y) F A 71dB
    235 35 R 20 92 ZR(Y) XL | K1 F B 71dB
    235 30 R 20 88 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    235 30 R 22 - ZR XL E A 71dB
    245 45 R 18 100 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    245 40 R 18 97 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    245 35 R 18 92 Y XL | * E B 71dB
    245 40 R 19 98 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    245 35 R 19 93 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    245 35 R 20 95 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    245 35 R 20 95 ZR(Y) XL | K1 E B 71dB
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    245 35 R 21 - ZR XL E A 71dB
    245 30 R 21 91 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
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    255 30 R 19 91 ZR(Y) XL F A 71dB
    255 40 R 20 101 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    255 40 R 20 101 ZR(Y) XL | N0 E A 71dB
    255 35 R 20 - ZR XL E A 71dB
    255 35 R 20 97 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    255 35 R 20 97 ZR(Y) XL | K2 E B 71dB
    255 30 R 20 92 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    255 30 R 21 93 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    265 45 R 18 101 ZR(Y) E A 71dB
    265 40 R 18 101 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    265 40 R 19 102 ZR(Y) XL | * C B 71dB
    265 35 R 19 98 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    265 35 R 19 98 ZR(Y) XL | MO C A 71dB
    265 35 R 19 98 ZR(Y) XL | N0 E A 71dB
    265 30 R 19 93 ZR(Y) XL E A 71dB
    265 35 R 20 95 ZR(Y) E A 71dB
    265 35 R 20 99 ZR(Y) XL | * E B 71dB
    265 30 R 20 94 ZR(Y) XL F A 71dB
    265 30 R 21 - ZR XL E A 71dB
    265 30 R 22 - ZR XL E A 71dB
    275 40 R 19 105 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    275 35 R 19 100 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    275 30 R 19 96 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    275 35 R 20 - ZR XL E A 73dB
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    275 30 R 20 - ZR XL E A 73dB
    285 40 R 19 107 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    285 35 R 19 103 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    285 35 R 20 104 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    285 30 R 20 - ZR XL E A 73dB
    285 30 R 20 99 ZR(Y) XL | K1 E B 73dB
    285 25 R 20 93 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    285 30 R 21 - ZR XL E A 73dB
    295 35 R 19 104 ZR(Y) XL | * C B 73dB
    295 30 R 19 100 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    295 35 R 20 101 ZR(Y) K1 E B 73dB
    295 35 R 20 105 ZR(Y) XL | K1 C B 73dB
    295 35 R 20 105 ZR(Y) XL | N0 C A 73dB
    295 30 R 20 101 ZR(Y) XL C A 73dB
    295 30 R 20 101 ZR(Y) XL | MO C B 73dB
    295 30 R 20 101 ZR(Y) XL | * E B 73dB
    295 25 R 20 95 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    295 30 R 21 - ZR XL E A 73dB
    295 25 R 21 96 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    305 30 R 19 102 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    305 30 R 20 103 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    305 25 R 20 97 ZR(Y) XL E A 73dB
    305 25 R 21 - ZR XL E A 73dB
    315 35 R 20 110 ZR(Y) XL | K1 C B 75dB
    315 35 R 20 110 ZR(Y) XL | K2 E B 75dB
    325 25 R 20 101 ZR(Y) XL E A 75dB
    335 30 R 20 108 ZR(Y) XL | N0 E A 74dB
    345 30 R 20 106 ZR(Y) E A 74dB

    Smiley SmileySmiley


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    How exactly that news belongs to this thread??


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    SportCarGroup:

    How exactly that news belongs to this thread??

    Because the greatest supercar Porsche has ever made just got greater - this news is so amazing it should be on every thread ;)


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    It probably goes without saying that the Michelin Pilot Super Sport is expected to become the de facto benchmark road tyre for the 991 range.

    There has been an unbelievably ridiculously long delay in Michelin and Porsche agreeing an "N rated" version of the Michelin Pilot Super Sport -- particularly given that this tyre was "developed with Porsche, BMW M and Ferrari" and originally announced in November 2010, followed by a worldwide launch in January 2011.

    The Michelin Pilot Super Sport effectively replaces the Michelin Pilot Sport 2, which has long been a favourite road tyre for Porsche 911 drivers.

    As an aside, the Michelin Pilot Super Sport was approved to be fitted as standard equipment on, inter alia, the Ferrari 458 Italia and 599 GTO and has been spotted on the new BMW M4 Concept.

    Michelin Pilot Super Sport -- PDF Press Pack

    Smiley SmileySmiley


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    Yes it has taken years for approval - I could not wait and fitted Super Sports to my RS60 in January. It took around 2k miles for them to bed in properly and I can say for sure they have transformed the car - it handles like it is on rails and grips where PS2s had no chance, I.e. on cold, icy and slippery corners. Love them. 


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    No chance that they produce the MPSS in 245/45/16 for the 930 turbo I guess? indecision


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    Spyshots: 2014 Porsche 911 GT2 and GT3 RS Spotted in San Francisco

    http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/08/17/spyshots-porsche-991-gt2-and-gt3-rs-spotted-in-san-francisco/

     

     


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    Porsche's Plan for More Models and More Profits...
     
     
     -- Article by Georg Kacher for Automobile
     
    (22 August 2013)
     
    "Relish this number: $22,191, that's Porsche's net profit per vehicle. No other carmaker in the world comes close to such amazing margins. Porsche, however, is ambitiously seeking even greater returns. It plans to do so despite increased costs, chiefly due to manpower (employment has increased from 12,000 to 18,000 in the last five years); infrastructure (the Weissach think tank is currently undergoing a major expansion); production (the factories at Leipzig and Zuffenhausen in particular need to be brought up to speed); marketing (Porsche experience centers are mushrooming globally); and distribution (Korea, Russia, and Brazil require instant attention).
     
    Slow start for the 918
     
    This fall, Porsche will roll out the mega-complex and mega-expensive, limited edition 918 Spyder. While the competing LaFerrari sold out instantly (and will be followed by a run of 500 drop-tops as well as by about 200 hardcore FXX variants in 2015 and 2016), the plug-in supercar from Stuttgart is still available for the taking. More to the point, the two-seater came in well above budget, and it tied more brainpower over a longer time period than originally allocated. In an attempt to recover some of that substantial investment, the board is currently evaluating various secondary exploitation options based around the carbon-fiber wonder.
     
    918 spinoff: the 984
     
    One promising potential spinoff that surfaced earlier this year is project 984: 9 for sports car, 8 for the number of cylinders, 4 for the number of seats. The 984 uses a stretched and reinforced version of the carbon fiber cradle of the 918; it keeps the same mid-mounted, dry-sump V-8, is rear-wheel drive only, but gains two seats and two doors. Sounds crazy? Perhaps. Except that in 2011 Lamborghini developed a similar (if stillborn) packaging scheme for the Aventador and the Gallardo, and then there is of course the upcoming BMW i8, which is a mid-engine 2+2.
     
    Half the price of a 918
     
    The 984 is a low-volume, high-price proposal, but its output would not be limited, and it would probably cost "only" 350,000 Euro, thereby undercutting the 918 by more than half. Chief designer Michael Mauer has created a stunning full-size concept car that is simply too beautiful to spend the rest of its life hidden under wraps. Styling elements include a 911-inspired greenhouse with a daringly low roofline, air intake scoops neatly integrated into the flared rear doors, and three body-color air extrusion bars between the rear window and the fixed wraparound tail spoiler. It is not yet clear whether the rear doors are front- or rear-hinged. There are two separate luggage compartments, one in the front and one in the rear.
     
    It needs more power
     
    Although Porsche is currently laying the finishing touches on an all-new lightweight twin-turbo 4.0-liter V-8, the 984 would in all likelihood retain the more exclusive 4.6-liter dry-sump unit from the 918. Rather than 612 hp, as in the 918, the 984 would need even greater output, in order to eclipse the upcoming GT2 RS, which is going to deliver close to 650 hp. Figure, then, on 700 hp for the 984. A seven-speed PDK box is the transmission of choice to relay up to 443 pound-feet of torque to the 20-inch rear wheels. For optimum weight distribution, the radiators and the battery are mounted ahead of the front axle.
     
    When and how many
     
    Although production of the 918 is due to end in late 2015, the 984 would probably not be ready before 2017. Where to build it and in which numbers are part of an ongoing debate. Although the slow demand for the 918 does not bode well initially for the 2+2-seater derived from it, the situation might change if the 918 Spyder sells out soon after the first customer cars hit the road.
     
    The 960 - Porsche's other supercar
     
    Does the 984 clash with project 960? The answer is an emphatic No. While the 984 is all carbon fiber and very high-tech, the 960 paves the way for the next-generation 911 and Boxster. True, the 960 (known internally as Fefi for Ferrari fighter) will cost about 250,000 Euro and thus about as much as a Ferrari 458, but it would still be at least 100,000 Euro less expensive than the 984.
     
    Porsche 960 - Powered by a boxer 8
     
    Both models are equipped with eight-cylinder engines, but while the 984 would use a V-8, the 960 features a brand-new boxer, dubbed B8. Displacing approximately 5.0 liters, this direct-injected, twin-turbo powerplant would need at least 650 hp to fend off its Italian rival (which will switch from a normally aspirated V-8 to a turbocharged engine in 2015). Additionally, the 960 will have four-wheel drive, dynamic torque vectoring, and rear-wheel steering. The goal is to push the weight down to 3100 lbs and to accelerate in 2.5 seconds from 0-60 mph. Early calculations are based on about 3000 units a year, but there is capacity for almost twice that many, which means there is even potential for a 960 Spyder.
     
    What's next for the 911
     
    On the 911 front, the next big thing is the GT3 RS, which again features PDK as standard equipment. There is however a (slim?) chance that the Motorsport people might adapt the mothballed six-speed manual to the more powerful, naturally aspirated engine, if only as a very costly option for the true die-hards.
     
    In 2014, we are going to see the all-new 911 Targa, which drops the glass roof treatment and harks back to its roots with a removable lid that promises to be easy to stow. One 911 variant that might get squeezed out is the base GT2, simply because there's not enough time before the arrival of the next (992) Carrera.
     
    What we may see however is a limited edition GT2 RS with 650 hp, even more carbon fiber bits, bigger brakes, an uprated suspension, full-size wings and, again, PDK transmission.
     
    Changes to Porsche's biggest seller
     
    The Cayenne remains Porsche's biggest seller, and the third generation is expected to arrive in 2017. Again, based on the standard wheelbase (while the Audi Q7 and the Bentley Falcon go LWB), the new Cayenne is claimed to be more sports car-like, more contoured in shape, and more crossover than SUV in character than the current version. Additionally, a high-end coupe based on the Cayenne is a solid bet. Expected in 2018, the GTR edition (to rival the BMW X6 and friends) is tipped to feature an awesome top-of-the-line 4.0-liter V-8 rated at 600 hp and nearly 600 pound-feet of torque. Like all upcoming V engines under development, this one boasts a staggered variable-vane charging system, a variable-volume intake plenum, and a highly efficient variable-intensity combustion process.
     
    Hold the Pajun
     
    On the topic of unconventional Porsches, there is of course the Panamera. The next iteration debuts in 2015. It's claimed to be much prettier than the current effort, and it will come in three body styles: five-door, long-wheelbase five-door, five-door shooting brake. The proposed two-door variants are now out of the picture. In powertrain news, we are definitely going to see a V-8 diesel and the combination of diesel and 4WD. There is also talk of a performance hybrid that would mate a 500-hp V-8 to a 150-hp electric motor.
     
    The Panamera Junior, a.k.a. the Pajun, was to be spun off the same front-engine platform (as is the follow up to the Bentley Continental). Described as a four-door hatchback coupe and a two-door shortback (928-style), the Pajun had been penciled in for 2017, but more recently the project moved back into "the cloud," which means it is no longer an active project. Porsche is grappling with questions of size, but also intra-familial rivalries -- particularly with Audi and Bentley. In other words, there are limits to growth, even for a company as ambitious as Porsche."
     
    ________
     
     
    Deep Dive: Porsche 960 Update
     
     
    (From the March 2013 issue of Automobile Magazine - by Georg Kacher)
     
    The Porsche 960, known internally as "FeFi" (for "Ferrari fighter") is moving full speed ahead. We last reported that the car would employ a high-output flat six, but that engine, although frugal and light, was deemed insufficient for a vehicle that will likely cost as much as twelve-cylinder cars like the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta and the Lamborghini Aventador. The solution: a boxer eight.
     
    Word has it that Volkswagen Group chief Ferdinand Piech approved this application. Piech used to drive a one-off Porsche 914 equipped with a boxer eight-cylinder, and, more recently, the chairman was said to be driving a Cayman fitted with a flat eight. Featuring four turbochargers, two intercoolers, four adjustable camshafts, a complex multistage intake manifold, and dual-stage exhaust, the 3.9-liter engine is expected to deliver 650 hp. It will be mounted low in the middle of the car, connecting to a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic.
     
    The 960 relies on an aluminum-intensive architecture supported by steel, carbon fiber, magnesium, titanium, and other composite elements to keep weight to about 3000 pounds. Porsche is resisting high-tech, heavy add-ons such as the 918's electric motors. All-wheel drive made the cut and adds close to 200 pounds but earns its keep by getting the power to the ground -- 0 to 60 mph allegedly takes only 2.5 seconds. An even more raw, rear-wheel-drive GT edition may follow. No convertible, for now.
     
    The design, forecast above by our illustrator, should hew closely to that of the 918, but the underlying architecture will be shared with everything from the next Boxster to the Aventador's successor. Unlike the 918, this won't be a limited-run model. Porsche thinks it can sell 3000 to 4000 of them annually over a six-year life cycle. Production in Zuffenhausen will likely commence in early 2017.
     
     
     

    Smiley SmileySmiley


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    This PS looks awesome


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    Interesting plans. I wonder when we will see turbo-charged engines in the 911 Carreras. I'm sure, the 992 will have them. Maybe even the 991 facelift will get them ...


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    +1 ! amazing PS !


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    Same 911 again being even more mysterious with its engine sound (turbocharged??)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW6ervWNEnQ


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    Sounds hideous!


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    2014 Porsche 911 [991.1] GT3 (Agate Grey) {Delivery date: December 2013}
     
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    ag23:

    Sounds hideous!

    +1, you could barely hear the engine!


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    rfakhri:

    Spyshots: 2014 Porsche 911 GT2 and GT3 RS Spotted in San Francisco

    http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/08/17/spyshots-porsche-991-gt2-and-gt3-rs-spotted-in-san-francisco/

     

     

    I only see two different GT3 RS... Smiley Smiley


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    http://www.porsche.com/uk/aboutporsche/pressreleases/pag/?pool=international-de&id=F4AC277836177270C1257BDA005201A3

    "1) 918 Spyder: Fuel consumption (combined) 3.3 – 3.0 l/100 km; electrical consumption (combined) 13.0 – 12.5 Wh/100 km; CO2 emissions 79 – 70 g/km

    2) Panamera: Fuel consumption (combined) 10.7 – 6.4 l/100 km; CO2 emissions 249 – 169 g/km

    3) Panamera S E-Hybrid: Fuel consumption (combined) 3.1 l/100 km; electrical consumption (combined) 16.2 Wh/100 km; CO2 emissions 71 g/km

    4) 911 50th Anniversary Edition: Fuel consumption urban 13.8 – 12.2 l/100 km; non-urban 7.1 – 6.7 l/100 km; combined 9.5 – 8.7 l/100 km; CO2 emissions 224 – 205 g/km

    5) 911 Turbo and 911 Turbo S: Fuel consumption urban 13.2 l/100 km; non-urban 7.7 l/100 km; combined 9.7 l/100 km; CO2 emissions 227 g/km

    "

    No Targa in the IAA?


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    Moving pictures of a still unknown variant:  http://www.worldcarfans.com/113090362365/spy-video-shows-unknown-porsche-911-prototype-testing


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    Damn...when the freaking Targa will show up!?!? crying


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    SCG, the Targa will arrive in mid 2014 at least in Mexico, so I think the car will be revealed in LA or Detroit. laugh


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    I spoke to someone today, who said he had inside information that the Targa will be introduced at Geneva, march 2014 Smiley

    Somehow it sounded like it made sense... Delivery starting around spring 2014. But I have no confirmation of course...Smiley


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    Could be true, because RC said in another post that Porsche was testing RWD versions of the Targa; the prototypes we've seen until now are AWD and prepare another 2 models probably requires more time, but who knows...yes


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    Been a while since this thread has been updated but seems Jalopnik has helped remedy this with a scoop reportedly coming from a Porsche dealer meeting including some pictures of their presentation slides...

    http://jalopnik.com/insider-leaks-every-important-upcoming-porsche-reveal-1410845487

    Targa, Macan and Cayman/ Boxter GTS details


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    proyea:

    Been a while since this thread has been updated but seems Jalopnik has helped remedy this with a scoop reportedly coming from a Porsche dealer meeting including some pictures of their presentation slides...

    http://jalopnik.com/insider-leaks-every-important-upcoming-porsche-reveal-1410845487

    Targa, Macan and Cayman/ Boxter GTS details

    Targa looks good! So much better than that glass roof. Also I am very curious about the Macan's new V6 Turbo engine! 

    What do you guys think about the Macan? Will it be a success?


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    I think the Macan has an excellent chance of  being a success here. Based upon what she has seen in RennTeam , my wife has decided to purchase a Macan S.  This was someone who wouldn't drive anything but an Acura MDX DUV


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    2006 997 C2S Cab, Triple Black,  2013 Cayenne Dark Blue Metallic New York


     
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