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    BMW M3 Cabrio









    M3 Cabrio coming up: 420 pk, 400 Nm, RWD


    0-100km/h: 5.3 (coupe 4.9)
    extra 230 kilo!!

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    Flyer.. said:
    0-100km/h: 5.3 (coupe 4.9)
    extra 230 kilo!!



    That's the cost of a folding hard top...

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    Looks like embargo-breaking is the new internet sport
    230 kg is a lot, but I think you'll quickly forget that the first time you floor it in a tunnel with the top down

    I doubt that the M-DCT M3 cab will "only" get to 100 kph in 5.3 sec, it has to be faster than that
    (As a comparison the 335xi coupe with 6MT does it 5.4 sec)

    Bigger pics:

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    temm said:
    I doubt that the M-DCT M3 cab will "only" get to 100 kph in 5.3 sec, it has to be faster than that
    (As a comparison the 335xi coupe with 6MT does it 5.4 sec)




    I don't know, 230kilo is A LOT!
    e.g. the difference between a 997s and cabrio 0-100 time is 0.4 (and they have a soft top..)
    So this might be true!

    ps, tnx for the bigger pic's, I couldn't find.

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    Beautiful car, BMW's first folding hardtop.

    Why such a huge weight increase.

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    vinnie said:
    Beautiful car, BMW's first folding hardtop.

    Why such a huge weight increase.



    The coupe's roof is carbon fiber so that might be the reason for such a big difference.

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    temm said:
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    What gearbox does it have? SMG3? Why isn't it available on the coupe?

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    Flyer.. said:
    Quote:
    temm said:
    I doubt that the M-DCT M3 cab will "only" get to 100 kph in 5.3 sec, it has to be faster than that
    (As a comparison the 335xi coupe with 6MT does it 5.4 sec)




    I don't know, 230kilo is A LOT!
    e.g. the difference between a 997s and cabrio 0-100 time is 0.4 (and they have a soft top..)
    So this might be true!




    A more relevant comparison is btw the 335i coupe and cabriolet. The weight difference btw them is 210 kg and the 0-100kph time for the cab is 0.3 sec slower than the coupe.
    So I guess that means that the 335i engine is better than the M3 engine and handling a weight increase if the M3 number is true

    My guess is that the 5.3 sec time is for the manual gearbox, and that the M-DCT will be a tenth or two faster...

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    M-DKG(BTW, it is official name) is again way too complicated. 6 shift speeds for manual and 5 for automatic programms... Plus LC...

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    Let's not hope JC is going to test it

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    Flyer.. said:
    I don't know, 230kilo is A LOT!




    With two people and some luggage you'll move almost two tons - I'm waiting for the first so-called sportscar which requires a truck driving license

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    Porsche-Jeck said:
    Quote:
    Flyer.. said:
    I don't know, 230kilo is A LOT!




    With two people and some luggage you'll move almost two tons - I'm waiting for the first so-called sportscar which requires a truck driving license



    Exactly my thoughts - I wonder what is the max loading capacity - addition 4 people x 75 kgs you have another 300 kgs min so you might be over 2 tons.... for a 3-series...

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    230kg = 506 lbs!!
    WTF! No way. They should have went with a folding soft top.

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    Nice car as long as the roof stays open. That folding top looks somehow weired

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    It's a puzzle!
    Maybe in a darker color, the 'foulding' lines won't show this much..

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    BTW,
    M-DKG can be ordered from now. Code is 2MK and price is around Euro 3800 in EU(without local VAT).

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    Flyer.. said:
    Maybe in a darker color



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    Flyer.. said:


    It's a puzzle!
    Maybe in a darker color, the 'foulding' lines won't show this much..



    My thoughts exactly! That picture with the distinctive gaps looks bad...

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    Wow M-DKGs price is STEEP!!!
    +you get a pretty gay shifter.

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    janus said:
    Wow M-DKGs price is STEEP!!!
    +you get a pretty gay shifter.



    I know the gay shifter (looks horrible), but what's the price?

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    KresoF1 said:
    BTW,
    M-DKG can be ordered from now. Code is 2MK and price is around Euro 3800 in EU(without local VAT).


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    Coupe looks much better...

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    Full pressrelese

    http://www.m3post.com/goodiesforyou/mdctinfo.PDF

    EU-consumtion:

    M3 coupe manual: 12,4 l/100km
    M3 coupe M DCT: 11,9 l/100km

    M3 sedan manual: 12,4 l/100km
    M3 sedan M DCT: 11,9 l/100km

    M3 cabrio manual: 12,9 l/100km
    M3 cabrio M DCT: 12,3 l/100km

    German Price: 3800,- Euro - confirmed by BMW-Speaker
    Code: 2MK

    M3 coupe manual: 4.8s 0-100kmh (1580kg by DIN)
    M3 coupe M DCT: 4.6s 0-100kmh (1600kg by DIN)

    M3 sedan manual: 4.9s 0-100kmh (1605kg by DIN)
    M3 sedan M DCT: 4.7s 0-100kmh (1625kg by DIN)

    M3 cabrio manual: 5.3s 0-100kmh (1810kg by DIN)
    M3 cabrio M DCT: 5.1s 0-100kmh (1830kg by DIN)

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    New M-DCT(or M-DKG) is most advanced gearbox currently in the world. BMW just made an edge over competition. For example new M3 Coupe with M-DCT and M Drivers Package cost in Germany around Euro 90000(with Mwst.). For that money you simply can not buy faster or more advanced European sportscar or sport coupe/sedan IMHO.

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    KresoF1 said:
    New M-DCT(or M-DKG) is most advanced gearbox currently in the world. BMW just made an edge over competition. For example new M3 Coupe with M-DCT and M Drivers Package cost in Germany around Euro 90000(with Mwst.). For that money you simply can not buy faster or more advanced European sportscar or sport coupe/sedan IMHO.



    For 90k I would never buy a M3.

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    Rossi said:
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    KresoF1 said:
    New M-DCT(or M-DKG) is most advanced gearbox currently in the world. BMW just made an edge over competition. For example new M3 Coupe with M-DCT and M Drivers Package cost in Germany around Euro 90000(with Mwst.). For that money you simply can not buy faster or more advanced European sportscar or sport coupe/sedan IMHO.



    For 90k I would never buy a M3.



    In this case(since I do not agree with you) I have to ask what would you buy instead?

    Cayman S??? Please, do not say Nissan GT-R since that car will be available in one year time...

    For Euro 90K you get fully specd M3 Coupe with M Drivers Package(rumor is not 280km/h but, 295km/h top speed with M-DKG!) and M-DKG. Since M-DKG is the most advanced gearbox in the world currently I truly do not understand your point. For same Euro 90K you can get fully specd(same level as M3) manual Cayman S(without PCCBs).

    I said European car. Maybe you missed that point?

    If you said Vette Z06 then I could even agree with you.

     
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