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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Porker:

    Apparently it was a kid, the grandfather went to the police himself to insist on refunding any costs. Little prick that kid. 

    Glad it cleaned up ok - such a beautiful color! Smiley


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Grant:
    Porker:

    Apparently it was a kid, the grandfather went to the police himself to insist on refunding any costs. Little prick that kid. 

    Glad it cleaned up ok - such a beautiful color! Smiley


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    Tesla Sentry mode would have recorded several angles as well as emailed you live when it was taking place. In fact if one had parked near you it might have also recorded this. 
    Once when I walked away from my parked car a BMW was about to back into it. I watched from too far away to help only to see my car flash it’s lights and then honk the horn in time to alert the BMW driver. That some Herbie magic 


    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Porker:
    W8MM:

    In my neighborhood, the miscreants tempted to act out in this way are all afraid that anyone with whom they are familiar that could possibly own a car like that also likely posses a fully automatic short-barrel rifle.   No problema angry

    I wouldn't have shot the kid even if I would have had a rifle and I would've caught him. SmileySmiley

    World's full of idiots, unfortunately flashy things tend to attract them.

    No, .... I'm not talking about me shooting anyone.  It's the experiential fears of the likely suspects.  They worry about bad dudes and retribution.  They're afraid because whomever owns the car might not be as civilized as am I.

    I live in a "diverse" part of town Smiley


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    throt:

    Returned to my car one night and some herberts decided to use my car as a litter bin.

    Covered it with KFC, Chips, drink carltons, the lot Smiley. Had to get tissue to pick it all off Smiley.

    Bastards!

    But you call your car the shit box - so what did you expect?  SmileySmiley


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Sadly, this, and running costs, keep me from anything fancier than a wingless 911.

    Didn't Jeremy Clarkson once call Ferraris "phlegm magnets?"

    Glad to see it's not bringing you down Porker.


    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Sorry you had to deal with that, and glad your car was ok. At least the grandfather has some understanding of personal property.


    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    4trac:
    throt:

    Returned to my car one night and some herberts decided to use my car as a litter bin.

    Covered it with KFC, Chips, drink carltons, the lot Smiley. Had to get tissue to pick it all off Smiley.

    Bastards!

    But you call your car the shit box - so what did you expect?  SmileySmiley

    Hahaha,

    No, they put Kentucky Fried Chicken, chips and carltons on the GT3.

    If it was the shitbox I would have just got in it, turned the key, and pulled away Smiley Smiley.


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Porker:

    Apparently it was a kid, the grandfather went to the police himself to insist on refunding any costs. Little prick that kid. 

    At least his grandfather was a honorable human being and did the right thing, teaching his grandson a lesson here (I hope). So glad nothing bad happened, I know the feeling... Smiley

    Still, that dashcam comes in handy if you park your car in "public" places quite often.


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Agree, it's something to consider.


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    I'm glad it was easily fixed with a detail Frankwink


    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Envy is a factor in the defilement of an expensive car.


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    You’ve got to be on your toes with this thing in these temperatures, my god. 🤗

    Fantastic fun though.

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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    A well used Ferrari . As you do with all your cars kiss You must be sweating more then when doing laps at the Ring in the GT3 indecision


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Gnil:

    A well used Ferrari . As you do with all your cars kiss You must be sweating more then when doing laps at the Ring in the GT3 indecision

    To be honest, yes. Smiley

    It lurks in small corners always, when you're paying attention it's ok, but like yesterday on the autoroute when you're just cruising it can suddenly snap as no other car I know. I accelerated away from a construction zone, slowly, not thinking twice of it but clearly too much power for the wet/cold road and before you know it you're briefly traveling sideways at 160km/h.  Smiley


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Smiley These cars are for driving...even in winter time. Smiley

    I am member of a Jeep Trackhawk/SRT group in Germany and most of the owners leave their trucks in the garage during winter time. Smiley I mean...seriously? Smiley

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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    RC:

    Smiley These cars are for driving...even in winter time. Smiley

    I am member of a Jeep Trackhawk/SRT group in Germany and most of the owners leave their trucks in the garage during winter time. Smiley I mean...seriously? Smiley

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    Be careful, hope you are a good driver Smiley Smiley


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    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Porker:
    Gnil:

    A well used Ferrari . As you do with all your cars kiss You must be sweating more then when doing laps at the Ring in the GT3 indecision

    To be honest, yes. Smiley

    It lurks in small corners always, when you're paying attention it's ok, but like yesterday on the autoroute when you're just cruising it can suddenly snap as no other car I know. I accelerated away from a construction zone, slowly, not thinking twice of it but clearly too much power for the wet/cold road and before you know it you're briefly traveling sideways at 160km/h.  Smiley

    Instant sweat SmileySmiley 


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    too bad about that negative experience....


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Gnil:
    Porker:
    Gnil:

    A well used Ferrari . As you do with all your cars kiss You must be sweating more then when doing laps at the Ring in the GT3 indecision

    To be honest, yes. Smiley

    It lurks in small corners always, when you're paying attention it's ok, but like yesterday on the autoroute when you're just cruising it can suddenly snap as no other car I know. I accelerated away from a construction zone, slowly, not thinking twice of it but clearly too much power for the wet/cold road and before you know it you're briefly traveling sideways at 160km/h.  Smiley

    Instant sweat SmileySmiley 

    This is considered fun?Smiley


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    nberry:
    Gnil:
    Porker:
    Gnil:

    A well used Ferrari . As you do with all your cars kiss You must be sweating more then when doing laps at the Ring in the GT3 indecision

    To be honest, yes. Smiley

    It lurks in small corners always, when you're paying attention it's ok, but like yesterday on the autoroute when you're just cruising it can suddenly snap as no other car I know. I accelerated away from a construction zone, slowly, not thinking twice of it but clearly too much power for the wet/cold road and before you know it you're briefly traveling sideways at 160km/h.  Smiley

    Instant sweat SmileySmiley 

    This is considered fun?Smiley

    Sport ! Smiley


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Gnil:
    nberry:
    Gnil:
    Porker:
    Gnil:

    A well used Ferrari . As you do with all your cars kiss You must be sweating more then when doing laps at the Ring in the GT3 indecision

    To be honest, yes. Smiley

    It lurks in small corners always, when you're paying attention it's ok, but like yesterday on the autoroute when you're just cruising it can suddenly snap as no other car I know. I accelerated away from a construction zone, slowly, not thinking twice of it but clearly too much power for the wet/cold road and before you know it you're briefly traveling sideways at 160km/h.  Smiley

    Instant sweat SmileySmiley 

    This is considered fun?Smiley

    Sport ! Smiley

    SmileySmiley


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    The only easy day was yesterday..


    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Porker:
    Gnil:

    A well used Ferrari . As you do with all your cars kiss You must be sweating more then when doing laps at the Ring in the GT3 indecision

    To be honest, yes. Smiley

    It lurks in small corners always, when you're paying attention it's ok, but like yesterday on the autoroute when you're just cruising it can suddenly snap as no other car I know. I accelerated away from a construction zone, slowly, not thinking twice of it but clearly too much power for the wet/cold road and before you know it you're briefly traveling sideways at 160km/h.  Smiley

    Sorry if I missed it, but are you running winter tires?  Because they should not snap like this....


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    No it's Michelin PS4S so they would snap at freezing temperatures, it's the ferocity that is surprising... And the lenient behavior of the ESC.


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Porker:

    No it's Michelin PS4S so they would snap at freezing temperatures, it's the ferocity that is surprising... And the lenient behavior of the ESC.

    Wow, there is no way on earth I would be driving these tires in winter, surprised you are willing to take that risk.  And its not at freezing temperatures, summer compound grip degrades at temps below 10C, and very fast under 6C or so, by freezing you have actually hit the "glass transition" where the rubber no longer behaves like any rubber you know. You have found out what that feels like - you cannot predict where you'll lose traction.  A set of Pirelli Sottozero or the like would make the car actually fun again in winter.  Not really sure what you are trying to prove here... but please rethink.


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Porker:

    No it's Michelin PS4S so they would snap at freezing temperatures, it's the ferocity that is surprising... And the lenient behavior of the ESC.

    At the risk of stating the obvious - you have too heavy a right foot from years of driving underpowered cars SmileySmiley.


    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    4trac:
    Porker:

    No it's Michelin PS4S so they would snap at freezing temperatures, it's the ferocity that is surprising... And the lenient behavior of the ESC.

    Wow, there is no way on earth I would be driving these tires in winter, surprised you are willing to take that risk.  And its not at freezing temperatures, summer compound grip degrades at temps below 10C, and very fast under 6C or so, by freezing you have actually hit the "glass transition" where the rubber no longer behaves like any rubber you know. You have found out what that feels like - you cannot predict where you'll lose traction.  A set of Pirelli Sottozero or the like would make the car actually fun again in winter.  Not really sure what you are trying to prove here... but please rethink.

    +1

    Summer tires?! Smiley

    I just put a set of Pirelli Sottozero on the GT4. The low lip is a bit of a snow plow but there is plenty of traction. I would never dream of driving it with summer tires and it has half the power of the Ferrari Smiley Still faster, obviously.


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    If you crash u have a big insurance issue...


    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    4trac:
    Porker:

    No it's Michelin PS4S so they would snap at freezing temperatures, it's the ferocity that is surprising... And the lenient behavior of the ESC.

    Wow, there is no way on earth I would be driving these tires in winter, surprised you are willing to take that risk.  And its not at freezing temperatures, summer compound grip degrades at temps below 10C, and very fast under 6C or so, by freezing you have actually hit the "glass transition" where the rubber no longer behaves like any rubber you know. You have found out what that feels like - you cannot predict where you'll lose traction.  A set of Pirelli Sottozero or the like would make the car actually fun again in winter.  Not really sure what you are trying to prove here... but please rethink.

    Not trying to prove anything, it was a means of transport as the Mercedes wasn't available. I'm the first one to recommend winter tires, but it's just not worth it on the Ferrari for that 1 or 2 times I have to use it at these temperatures. 


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    bluelines:
    4trac:
    Porker:

    No it's Michelin PS4S so they would snap at freezing temperatures, it's the ferocity that is surprising... And the lenient behavior of the ESC.

    Wow, there is no way on earth I would be driving these tires in winter, surprised you are willing to take that risk.  And its not at freezing temperatures, summer compound grip degrades at temps below 10C, and very fast under 6C or so, by freezing you have actually hit the "glass transition" where the rubber no longer behaves like any rubber you know. You have found out what that feels like - you cannot predict where you'll lose traction.  A set of Pirelli Sottozero or the like would make the car actually fun again in winter.  Not really sure what you are trying to prove here... but please rethink.

    +1

    Summer tires?! Smiley

    I just put a set of Pirelli Sottozero on the GT4. The low lip is a bit of a snow plow but there is plenty of traction. I would never dream of driving it with summer tires and it has half the power of the Ferrari Smiley Still faster, obviously.

    I have the same on my Performante, very nice winter tires. Smiley

    Pirelli Scorpion Winter on my Trackhawk, excellent as well for such a heavy truck.


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    Re: Wandered to the dark side

    Porker:
    4trac:
    Porker:

    No it's Michelin PS4S so they would snap at freezing temperatures, it's the ferocity that is surprising... And the lenient behavior of the ESC.

    Wow, there is no way on earth I would be driving these tires in winter, surprised you are willing to take that risk.  And its not at freezing temperatures, summer compound grip degrades at temps below 10C, and very fast under 6C or so, by freezing you have actually hit the "glass transition" where the rubber no longer behaves like any rubber you know. You have found out what that feels like - you cannot predict where you'll lose traction.  A set of Pirelli Sottozero or the like would make the car actually fun again in winter.  Not really sure what you are trying to prove here... but please rethink.

    Not trying to prove anything, it was a means of transport as the Mercedes wasn't available. I'm the first one to recommend winter tires, but it's just not worth it on the Ferrari for that 1 or 2 times I have to use it at these temperatures. 

    Well you have heard the mob here, it just was not a good idea.  For one or two times, I would have just rented something with all-seasons.  On the other hand, you have found out it might be fun to actually keep using your green monster even if less frequently; you might be surprised at how much fun it could be.... with proper tires.  The only limitation then is the front lip as Bluelines describes.... but I don't imagine you receive that many really heavy snows where you are, more just cold and wet conditions, where something like the Sottozero would feel like a F1 car on wets.  

    The RT group can be critical, but at times like this is I think out of genuine care.  


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