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    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    noone1:

    What if your car gets stolen?

    Again, the risk factor over here for a '' special car '' parked in a prive garage must not be more then 1% . 

    It is all about reassurance for the owner but not relay linked to what happens in reality 


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    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    I think that if you look at the payout ratios for insurance companies, you find that the vast majority of premiums end up getting paid out, thus on average, you get your money worth on insurance.


    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    Do you believe in fairy ? 


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    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    hmm?


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    Actually 70% of insurance premiums go to pay for insurance fraud.


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    Whatever they go to is kind of irrelevant because they cover you when stuff happens. I can think of tons of people who have totaled their cars or significant damage. My friends sister totaled her's two days ago. My mclaren had $5000 in damages from a rodent and I was paying only $60/month. My other friend was hit head on by an uninsured drunk driver.

    Insurance is well worth it, especially in an exotic that will have a minimum of $20k of damage in even the slightest accident. What's a headlight on a Lamborghini cost? $3k?


    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    noone1:

    Whatever they go to is kind of irrelevant because they cover you when stuff happens. I can think of tons of people who have totaled their cars or significant damage. My friends sister totaled her's two days ago. My mclaren had $5000 in damages from a rodent and I was paying only $60/month. My other friend was hit head on by an uninsured drunk driver.

    Insurance is well worth it, especially in an exotic that will have a minimum of $20k of damage in even the slightest accident. What's a headlight on a Lamborghini cost? $3k?

    If assurances would pay more out then they gain , they would not be around .  When it gets too tight, they increase premiums . Someone has to pay , and it is not the insurance . It is the people who pay the premiums . 

    If I look around RT , I have hardly ever heard of someone having a major crash . It is seldom . 

    Insurance is all and only about probability  and they make sure it is on their side . Logic ! 


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    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    Some say: get only insurance for things you cannot afford (easily) or things you really need in life


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    Insurance companies are supposed to have a reasonable underwriting profit if they're doing a good job modeling risk and a profit derived from investing premiums.

    "Seldom" is enough to make it worth it. It costs like $2-3K to insure an exotic per year. One small accident over 10 years would recoup your cost.

    I have never gotten into an accident in the last 15 years, however, I had had one of my cars hit in a parking lot and I've had my share of close calls.


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    Gnil:
     

    Insurance is all and only about probability  and they make sure it is on their side . Logic ! 

    Tell that to AIG. Their combined ratio has been over 100% many times in recent years and they've recently had to increase reserves due to poor underwriting.

    Property and casualty insurance isn't really a business with high margins.


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    For most things like home, cars, yachts, it is stupid not to get insurance. They are very mature well priced markets. If you own a lot of things, they are specialty companies that can cater to your needs like AIG, Chubb or the one I use Pure. Things happen. My yacht burned down at night while docked in a marina. Even though I had to fight with the insurance because it wasn't totaled, they paid the equivalent of over 100 years of premium. As noone1 says in his usual agressive tone, if insurance companies were overcharging you would know about it because they would be printing money.

    The case of the luxury fleet owner is a bit different though as he doesn't need car insurance as we know it. But he needs insurance if the whole building burns down or something like that. I doubt he is not covered at all since that type of insurance would be fairly cheap compared to the value of the cars.

    One interesting case though is jewelry and art insurance. Art is not too expensive to insure but jewelry is because it covers theft and loss. Price is about 1.25% per year. Furthermore insuring jewelry is a pain because each item has to be appraised if the value is more than $25k.


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    I kind of doubt whatever building or home owners insurance he has will cover a huge amount of money in cars with no additional premium. If he's going to park millions of dollars worth of cars in a building worth less than cars themselves, you can be sure he's paying for it.


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    I insure the Donkervoort even when I'm on the track: if someone misses his brake point and hits me from behind I'm fucked. Since I hate being fucked I just pay a small price to not worry about costly carbon fiber. 


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    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    noone1:

    I kind of doubt whatever building or home owners insurance he has will cover a huge amount of money in cars with no additional premium. If he's going to park millions of dollars worth of cars in a building worth less than cars themselves, you can be sure he's paying for it.

    Of course it won't, there are limits to standard coverages... But it should not be too expensive to get them covered...


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    spudgun:

    I insure the Donkervoort even when I'm on the track: if someone misses his brake point and hits me from behind I'm fucked. Since I hate being fucked I just pay a small price to not worry about costly carbon fiber. 

    Always?  Or just from behind? Smiley

    I figure if we get far enough off topic at some point we're likely to return on one of these posts.  Like the 1000 monkeys and their keyboards.



    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    Interesting presentation of the powertrain

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG3DaD9l0Jw&feature=youtu.be


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    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    new teaser

    "The Mercedes-AMG Project One that will displayed in Frankfurt won't be the final production version, but rather a near-production prototype, as the automaker refers to it by saying "showcar".


    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    is this for real? I guess not.

    20170828090905mercedes-amg%20project%20one%20hypercar.jpg


    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    Nah. That looks completly different from that official teaser image.


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    This car is going to be nuts. I'm really excited to see it. Glad to see that the top dogs are going to be the ones you'd least expect -- AM and Mercedes. Nothing from anyone else is even going to come close to these cars.


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    I wish they would move beyond the retro 50's grille with the vertical "teeth". I think it looked good on the W 154 Formula car, where it was tiny and in proportion, but it's too much on the newer cars, with their much wider grilles. (I don't even like it on the W 194 gullwing).

     


    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    noone1:

    This car is going to be nuts. I'm really excited to see it. Glad to see that the top dogs are going to be the ones you'd least expect -- AM and Mercedes. Nothing from anyone else is even going to come close to these cars.

    But the Valkyrie will feature a 6.5 litre NA-V12, while the AMG is said to have a Formula-1-derived 1.6 litre V6-turbo. Smiley


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    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    Rossi:
    noone1:

    This car is going to be nuts. I'm really excited to see it. Glad to see that the top dogs are going to be the ones you'd least expect -- AM and Mercedes. Nothing from anyone else is even going to come close to these cars.

     the AMG is said to have a Formula-1-derived 1.6 litre V6-turbo. Smiley

    That is what he must of meant, no one else is going to use such a little turbo engine  Smiley ... I'm sure noone1 will love the imaginary Huracan sound from the inside Smiley


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    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    The less exhaust noise, the better. Silent would be best of all.


    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    noone1:

    The less exhaust noise, the better. Silent would be best of all.

    You do realize this is Rennteam, "The Unique International Sportstcar Comunnity"... not Snoozeteam, "The Unique International SundayDriver Community" right? Smiley


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    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    Guys - our buy application was denied. I kind of expected that coming. Nevertheless we hoped for. 

    Looking forward seeing the launch of the car tomorrow. I heard form some friends which been selected invited last night, that the design changed since I did see the car in March. Apparently it looks more exciting now. 

     

     


    Re: AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch

    How many are they making? I feel like there are probably 100s of collectors with vast collections making it almost impossible for anyone else to get things like this.

    When I was at McLaren Chicago, their service location was right next to a private storage facility. The owner lets them keep cars in it (I'm guessing he has some McLarens as well.) In any case, I have no idea who it was, but this building was enormous, with an elevated viewing area that overlooked the floor. It could have housed hundreds of cars. It was still under construction so nothing was in it yet. They didn't tell me who it was but said it was just for one guys collection.

    I have no doubt that there are probably enough people like this in the world to suck up allocation of just about any super rare, super low production car. Throw in the VIPs and A-list people like executives, Lewis Hamilton, Jay Leno etc and the production is pretty much spoken for before most anyone could really even apply.


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