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    HELP!!!

     I am stuck , I need to get a new car after selling my trusty 997 - been driving Porsches for the best part of 10 years and am considering a change....

    Here are the options:

    1. Porsche 997 PDK (S probably) - GBP 12,000 discount

    2. Aston Martin V8 Vantage 2008 with only 680 Km - rich friend with too many cars - giving it to me at a 40% discount on what he paid

    3. Audi R8 - 800 miles on the clock - 35% off new price through another industry contact

     

    I know all three cars quite well - what do you reckon guys?


    Re: HELP!!!

    That's a lovely predicament to be in

    You've outlined the choices but crucially you need to explain what you intend to use the car for (track, public roads etc) and what kind of driving you mostly do (touring, city/commuting, motorways, cruising)? Then people here will be able to give you more relevant (and useful) advice


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    Re: HELP!!!

    Depending on color - easy choice the AM

     

    especially in England, great car to take weekend drives with, best sound, classy, rarer than the 911.  


    Re: HELP!!!

     Thanks for the comments. I will commute, 20KM each way. No tracks etc but the occasional spirited country drive. The wife and I do travel to the countryside quite frequently and I guess lots of touring is quite important. The luggage space on the R8 is bit of a let down but I am quite impressed with the car itself. The AM is pulling at the heart strings most - just concerned about reliability....


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    AM R8 997


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    Re: HELP!!!

    racerx:

    Depending on color - easy choice the AM

     

    especially in England, great car to take weekend drives with, best sound, classy, rarer than the 911.  

     +1


    Re: HELP!!!

     am is the classier car, but not fun to drive at all IMO. the r8 is very fun to drive, high tech reliable etc, and its exclusive..

    so i would say: R8 AM 997


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    Re: HELP!!!

    Aston > R8 > 911


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    Re: HELP!!!

    For a mixture of daily driving/commuting, track use, motorway driving, cruising etc, my pecking order would be 997 > R8 > AMV8.

    Cars IMHO are not jewellery or accessories Smiley It never ceases to surprise me just how much weight people place upon the 'kerbside factor' (i.e. the impression you make when you step out of a car outside a restaurant or cafe) Smiley IMHO cars need to perform first and foremost as driver's cars. IMvHO nothing, I repeat nothing, comes even remotely close to offering the experience that a 911 can give on a track (because of its rear engine/RWD layout and the weight transfer potential this provides when cornering & also the traction one can get when exiting corners) Smiley

    My 911 is a faithful companion that accompanies me on every kind of journey and experience. It has a special personality and offers a truly unique driving experience. It is much more than just a car - it almost feels alive. There are very few cars one can say this about Smiley

    Smiley Smiley Smiley 


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    Re: HELP!!!

    I would say R8, 997, AM. I love all three but the R8 and 997 are more fun to drive than the AM. The AM is a great car too, and has that exhaust note. Tough call.


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    Although Aston V8 sounds glorious, I thought the V8 lacked a bit of a punch.  

    The sound accelerated faster than the car.  

    I'm sure you will see what I mean if you test drive the car.  

     

    I think the opposite can be true of the 997S.  

     

    However, knowing UK's damp driving conditions and the rarity of R8 on the road (rarer than AM V8 at least in UK), I think this would be a great choice!  R8 still turns heads in London.


    Re: HELP!!!

     Thanks for the comments guys. I have test driven all of the cars - more than test drives, had them each for several days at a time - including the Gallardo LP 560 and R8 V10, Bentley Continental GT and Maser GranTurismo - I have been quite spoilt. The reason for the mish mash of choices, I decided to listen to my wife for a change and test drive the cars she likes which are in order:

    Panamera, Cayenne Turbo , R8, Lamborghini Gallardo and Bentley

    We are off to the dealer later on and will hopefully make a choice today!

    But I have written off the Panamera, Cayenne and Bentley.


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    Jean:

    Although Aston V8 sounds glorious, I thought the V8 lacked a bit of a punch.  

    The sound accelerated faster than the car.  

    I'm sure you will see what I mean if you test drive the car.  

     

    I think the opposite can be true of the 997S. 

     

    for 2009 models

    I see times quoted as 997 - base 4.7 ; S 4.5 ; pdk 4.3  ; Targa 5.0 
     

    Aston V8  4.7 

    for previous years add some time because both have improved. So to diss the Aston as some kind of bark worse than bite ride is not valid. (these numbers make my 25 yo classic quite happy) All those times were achieved with people beating the crap out of the mechanicals, something you should not do on a regular basis to a car you intend to keep. Add in the fact that the human body will not be able to percieve these little differences and you see just how silly these numbers are.

    I have accelerated in  a stradale flat out many times, it is quoted at 4.0 and my car based on runs is a 5.3 and yet mine feels faster to me because of sound and initial grunt. So that is why I say buy a car you like and forget the numbers. 

     

    To Elijah;

    Looks, sound, and comfort are the biggest considerations. Since you added the Maser GT to the list, I would put that into a tie with the AM V8. NIce video on here in a thread about it.

    Good Luck, big decision.


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     So far I have always gone with my head - always bought new Porsches!

    I am going to go with my heart this time - watch this space for the final result!


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    easy_rider911:

    IMvHO nothing, I repeat nothing, comes even remotely close to offering the experience that a 911 can give on a track (because of its rear engine/RWD layout and the weight transfer potential this provides when cornering & also the traction one can get when exiting corners) Smiley


     

    Hahaha, I can't wait your report from Magny Cours Smiley Smiley


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    Re: HELP!!!

     If you like the color of the AM, no hesitation...


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    I would get the R8 as it is as fasr as a 997.2 S, has easily accessible performance and proper supercar looks. Only downside is that it is an Audi (for badge snobs) but underneath lies a Gallardo so I wouldn't care about that at all.


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    He's going for the R8. He likes it the most, and its on the wife list as well. I would too!!! 


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    Re: HELP!!!

    racerx:
    Jean:

    Although Aston V8 sounds glorious, I thought the V8 lacked a bit of a punch.  

    The sound accelerated faster than the car.  

    I'm sure you will see what I mean if you test drive the car.  

     

    I think the opposite can be true of the 997S. 

     

    for 2009 models

    I see times quoted as 997 - base 4.7 ; S 4.5 ; pdk 4.3  ; Targa 5.0 
     

    Aston V8  4.7 

    for previous years add some time because both have improved. So to diss the Aston as some kind of bark worse than bite ride is not valid. (these numbers make my 25 yo classic quite happy) All those times were achieved with people beating the crap out of the mechanicals, something you should not do on a regular basis to a car you intend to keep. Add in the fact that the human body will not be able to percieve these little differences and you see just how silly these numbers are.

    I have accelerated in  a stradale flat out many times, it is quoted at 4.0 and my car based on runs is a 5.3 and yet mine feels faster to me because of sound and initial grunt. So that is why I say buy a car you like and forget the numbers. 

     

    To Elijah;

    Looks, sound, and comfort are the biggest considerations. Since you added the Maser GT to the list, I would put that into a tie with the AM V8. NIce video on here in a thread about it.

    Good Luck, big decision.

    racerx,

    You are correct.  The AMV8 I've owned is 2007 model, so the new version might have improved in acceleration.

    However, I was talking purely in terms of the seat of the pants feel.  

    Aston's long final gear made me feel that the car was going slower than the sound.  I loved the growls everytime I stepped on the gas, but when I looked at the speedo after a long acceleration I was still doing less than 100mph.  Smiley

    Perhaps it's better this way to keep the speeding fines to a minimum.

     

    I still think R8 is a better choice out of those three.


    Re: HELP!!!

     Got a call last night from my OPC - they are getting concerned I haven't ordered a car! The scums bags never phoned me back when I was trying to sell mine to them!!!

    Anyways, they got me thinking by begging forgiveness and wait for it a GBP 15,000 discount on a new 997 Carrera S (PDK), basalt with beige - same as my last car, seat heaters, sports chrono, dynamic lights and a few other options....not a bad proposition.....

    In regards to the R8 - the wife insists on the R Tronic or whatever they call their auto - I much prefer the manual.....

    Been offered GBP 10,000 off the M3 too - manual - for the M3 I prefer the DCT....

    Still thinking...will keep you posted....


    Re: HELP!!!

     Incidentally, the Carrera S is DAMN fast. I had a 2008 997 Turbo manual - never ever scared me and though fast it didn't blow me away like the Carrera S with Sports Chrono - I got a few points this year for speeding already - I can see myself getting caught out again with the PDK


    Re: HELP!!!

    With this offer I would probably check that Aston more deeply!


     
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