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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Targa Tim:
    Gnil:

    I wanted him also to learn manual properly, with the driving instructor. Not just vaguely later on.

    Tough Dad indecision

    I got my driver license 37 years ago learning automatic.

    Then borrowed a friend's manual Honda civic and learned manual myself within 30 minutes.

    Now I track my manual RS in advanced level group. 

    I found it much easier to drive a manual car, then manually shift a PDK car, which I have to keep checking the screen which gear I'm in. Smiley

     

    Even when I was racing, I never had a need to look at the display to figure out which gear I am in. The engine note and the view out front is enough information, the rate of acceleration you get when you put your foot down is very distinct between gears. Counting how many times I pulled the paddles also helps, heavy braking on the longest straights and pulling left paddle 4 times means I am in 2nd. on exit right paddles a couple times means I am in 4th, left again it's 3rd, right right right I am right back at 6th. Eyes never left the front view and hands never left the steering wheel, fully in control.

    So easy, so simple, so intuitive. Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Targa Tim:

    Back to GT3 topic, if there will be a 992 GT3 touring cabriolet with power roof, then I wonder if I should trade my Speedster and get some money back, as they basically are the same engine 

    GT3 cabriolets will be a dime a dozen whereas your speedster is limited, albeit in high number.


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    2018 White 911 GT3


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    I would be worried to put miles on the speedster since its limited - not the GT3 cab - I also want PDK too!


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    Tesla Model S P100d. 2018 991.2 GT3. 2019 BMW M850i Convertible. 2020 Tesla Model 3 Performance. 2020 Aston Martin Vantage. 2020 Mclaren 720S coupe. 🥳


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Whoopsy:

    So easy, so simple, so intuitive. Smiley

    OK, I will practise my counting Smiley

    BTW,  I wonder how long you will keep your Speedster, the surprise purchase of yours Smiley


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    Tim

    2010 997.2 GT3RS;  2008 Cayenne Turbo;  2006 911 Club Coupe;  2016 911 GTS Club Coupe;  2015 Macan S;  2019 Speedster
     


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Targa Tim:
    Whoopsy:

    So easy, so simple, so intuitive. Smiley

    OK, I will practise my counting Smiley

    BTW,  I wonder how long you will keep your Speedster, the surprise purchase of yours Smiley

     

    Lol it's gone already Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Whoopsy:
    Lol it's gone already Smiley


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    Tim

    2010 997.2 GT3RS;  2008 Cayenne Turbo;  2006 911 Club Coupe;  2016 911 GTS Club Coupe;  2015 Macan S;  2019 Speedster
     


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    RC:

    My son has his "Abitur" (high school diploma, Matura, etc.) when he is 18 and I do not want to add the stress of failing the driving exam to his school stress, so I actually would not pressure him to take the exam with manual if he doesn't want to. We'll see... Are there pickup trucks with manual? Smiley Smiley Right now, after driving the G63 for a while, I do not know if a pickup truck is a good idea for a 18 year old. Too heavy, too big, just not "safe" in my opinion. It may not be a very fast car but he can cause a lot of damage and injury with a pickup truck.

    Sorry, back to topic: GT3 Touring. My wife still doesn't know what she wants, now she is back to wanting a GT3 Touring Cabriolet. Smiley She wants a wing though... Smiley Smiley Oh boy, Porsche can never get a break. Smiley

    A truck is in my view a very bad idea for an 18 year old in Europe. Not only it is more dangerous, specially to others, but it will also be a pain in everyday live. 

    My son  has his '' Abitur'' in June. Wonder now if learning to drive a manual will make him fail his school exams   .....Smiley


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Targa Tim:
    Gnil:

    I wanted him also to learn manual properly, with the driving instructor. Not just vaguely later on.

    Tough Dad indecision

    I got my driver license 37 years ago learning automatic.

    Then borrowed a friend's manual Honda civic and learned manual myself within 30 minutes.

    Now I track my manual RS in advanced level group. 

    I found it much easier to drive a manual car, then manually shift a PDK car, which I have to keep checking the screen which gear I'm in. Smiley

    Tough, me ? No ... I've let him drive my 964 after his 2nd time driving on the road and my 997 after the 4th  . Only reason he has not touched the RS is because the hand brake is not reachable from the passenger seat which makes it illegal to be used as a learner's car Smiley

    I just want him to have a proper base, then he can lear all his life driving PDK Smiley


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Gnil:
    Only reason he has not touched the RS is because the hand brake is not reachable from the passenger seat which makes it illegal to be used as a learner's car Smiley

    You could try slamming the PDK-shifter into P SmileySmiley


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    2016 Porsche 981 GT4 | Racing Yellow
    2018 Audi S6 Avant | Ibis White


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Gnil:
    RC:

    My son has his "Abitur" (high school diploma, Matura, etc.) when he is 18 and I do not want to add the stress of failing the driving exam to his school stress, so I actually would not pressure him to take the exam with manual if he doesn't want to. We'll see... Are there pickup trucks with manual? Smiley Smiley Right now, after driving the G63 for a while, I do not know if a pickup truck is a good idea for a 18 year old. Too heavy, too big, just not "safe" in my opinion. It may not be a very fast car but he can cause a lot of damage and injury with a pickup truck.

    Sorry, back to topic: GT3 Touring. My wife still doesn't know what she wants, now she is back to wanting a GT3 Touring Cabriolet. Smiley She wants a wing though... Smiley Smiley Oh boy, Porsche can never get a break. Smiley

    A truck is in my view a very bad idea for an 18 year old in Europe. Not only it is more dangerous, specially to others, but it will also be a pain in everyday live. 

    You are right of course, trust me, I know this very very well. Smiley

    The G63 is already a monster, size-wise and a RAM 1500 is even bigger/longer. Not a good vehicle for a beginner.

    I am thinking about getting a A45 S AMG as a second daily car for me but this is no car for a beginner either. 

    I do not want to get him some old crap or something uncool but I guess we discussed this often enough. Smiley

    We'll see...I try to get him something "cool" he can live with but I also want him to be safe. Smiley

    My son  has his '' Abitur'' in June. Wonder now if learning to drive a manual will make him fail his school exams   .....Smiley

    Smiley I think you misunderstood me: I am worried that he fails his manual driving exam and then this could influence his school exams. He is a good driver but he has never driven manual. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    You want him to drive something cool.

    it does not matter, look at my combo of cars, zafira and a GT3, best practical combo one can have Smiley

    And the Vauxhall has one of those lifetime warranties. Lifetime or 100,000 miles, I will never hit 100,000 mile driving it so the shit box Is covered for the whole of my ownership. I’m a lucky boy.Smiley.

    If our kids get the good goodies to early in life they will end up not having anything to look forward to in their later years. I was never bought expensive treats from my parents, but, it enhanced the sheer sense of self accomplishment when I bought my first decent car from my own hard work and cash.

    Thats why I value and treat my GT3 so well.
     

    The oll saying is true - ‘’easy come easy go’’.
    Many/mostly who get different items for nothing have zero respect and value for that item.

    it’s like getting something many times on the trot. A lot of people won’t take care of it because there is the next one around the corner, for nothing.

    Jmo.Smiley


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    schmoell:

    fwiw: presentation of new CUP has been moved to Oschersleben this WE. Car will have more power, will do everything better (of course) and will not have active aero. Performance similar to current GT3 R. (all rumors, although the date seems to be valid)

    Has it been presented? Has anyone seen it?


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    2018 White 911 GT3


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    I spoke to the guys at Manthey last week and they were in awe of the new RS, it's said to completely push the boundaries of what's acceptable as a road car. 


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Porker:

    I spoke to the guys at Manthey last week and they were in awe of the new RS, it's said to completely push the boundaries of what's acceptable as a road car. 


    No matter what, Performante will kill it. Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Rossi:
    Porker:

    I spoke to the guys at Manthey last week and they were in awe of the new RS, it's said to completely push the boundaries of what's acceptable as a road car. 


    No matter what, Performante will kill it. Smiley

    Yeah baby, yeah. hard-rock-smiley-325.png

    Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Anyone hear news about the future GT2RS?


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    Tesla Model S P100d. 2018 991.2 GT3. 2019 BMW M850i Convertible. 2020 Tesla Model 3 Performance. 2020 Aston Martin Vantage. 2020 Mclaren 720S coupe. 🥳


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    EnglishManInNY:

    Anyone hear news about the future GT2RS?

    Is one coming? Smiley Smiley

    I have heard zero rumors so far...sorry.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), Mercedes GLC63 S AMG (2020), Mercedes C63 S AMG Cab (2019), Range Rover Evoque Si4 Black Edition (2019)


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Porker:

    I spoke to the guys at Manthey last week and they were in awe of the new RS, it's said to completely push the boundaries of what's acceptable as a road car. 

    If that large wing is actually on the production versions, it will need clearance lamps much like those found on a Ford Raptor or Hummer H2, to receive U.S. certification.  That's definitely pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable as a road car.  


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    CGX car nut:
    Porker:

    I spoke to the guys at Manthey last week and they were in awe of the new RS, it's said to completely push the boundaries of what's acceptable as a road car. 

    If that large wing is actually on the production versions, it will need clearance lamps much like those found on a Ford Raptor or Hummer H2, to receive U.S. certification.  That's definitely pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable as a road car.  

    As far as I understood that landing strip is indeed the final size/shape.


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2020 Mercedes-AMG C63 / 2020 Ferrari 812SF

     


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    EnglishManInNY:

    Anyone hear news about the future GT2RS?

    After the GT3RS wing I heard Porsche is now having to subcontract the rear wing of the GT2RS to Airbus Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Carlos from Spain:
    EnglishManInNY:

    Anyone hear news about the future GT2RS?

    After the GT3RS wing I heard Porsche is now having to subcontract the rear wing of the GT2RS to Airbus Smiley

    Smiley


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    2018 Audi S6 Avant | Ibis White


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    The GT3 RS just want to stay with the big boys 

    Viper ARC 

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    Senna :

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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Give us big wings for the RS’

    the elegant one is the regular 3. 


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    The GT3 is the one to have if you ask me - better for the road and more rare given how many RSs they build.


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    Tesla Model S P100d. 2018 991.2 GT3. 2019 BMW M850i Convertible. 2020 Tesla Model 3 Performance. 2020 Aston Martin Vantage. 2020 Mclaren 720S coupe. 🥳


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Isn't it the other way around? They build almost twice as many GT3 as RS'. 


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    2018 White 911 GT3


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Gauss:

    Isn't it the other way around? They build almost twice as many GT3 as RS'. 

    Depends where and which version. 991.2 is unprecedented in terms of how they supplied the market. 
     


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    I could be wrong but 2-3x more RSs were made than regular GT3s - a bigger cash cow


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    Tesla Model S P100d. 2018 991.2 GT3. 2019 BMW M850i Convertible. 2020 Tesla Model 3 Performance. 2020 Aston Martin Vantage. 2020 Mclaren 720S coupe. 🥳


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    This sounds great! Must be the US version angry

    https://www.motor1.com/news/453587/porsche-911-gt3-touring-spied-video/


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    Tesla Model S P100d. 2018 991.2 GT3. 2019 BMW M850i Convertible. 2020 Tesla Model 3 Performance. 2020 Aston Martin Vantage. 2020 Mclaren 720S coupe. 🥳


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    oh and a PDK touring too!


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    Tesla Model S P100d. 2018 991.2 GT3. 2019 BMW M850i Convertible. 2020 Tesla Model 3 Performance. 2020 Aston Martin Vantage. 2020 Mclaren 720S coupe. 🥳


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

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