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    Re: [2021] Formula 1

    Ham vs Max


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    Topspeed:

    Ham vs Max

    It was a fantastic lap from Max, no doubt about that but you have to finish first to finish first Smiley


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    Amazing 95 percent of a lap by Max!   He was balls out for that one!   His aggressive high risk style almost pulled it out. Can’t really fault him… he went for it. 


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    thuggy:

    Amazing 95 percent of a lap by Max!   He was balls out for that one!   His aggressive high risk style almost pulled it out. Can’t really fault him… he went for it. 

     

    Epitome of his driving style. hero or zero. He was really this close to pulling out a hero lap. He squeezed every last drop out of that Red Bull. In the end, it was one too many squeeze. It's the one part of his arsenal that still needs a little bit work on. 

    Not unlike at Silverstone where he try to close the door on Hamilton but came out worse. Proper time and place to do things.

    Let's hope his gearbox holds up and can start 3rd tomorrow. 

    If he ended up losing the WDC to Hamilton, this is one of the defining moments. Silverstone is another. Not to mention Monza. 25/18 points at Silverstone was in the bag, Even Monza could have been 18/15. With those 30-40 points, he would have wrapped up the championship already and didn't need to try for this heroic lap. 

    But who knows, Mercedes still could make strategic errors and Max wins tomorrow and wraps up the championship. 

    Outside of Max fans, I think everyone wants the last GP Abu Dhabi to be the winner takes all kind of championship. 

     

     


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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuQUsKIPqnM

    Can't embed that video here. Rights issue so have to watch it on Youtube.

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    Max was up 0.244 second, after 2 sectors. Mega drive. I freeze frames and had a look, found out in the slow corners, he is mostly in a lower gear than Lewis, 2nd instead of 3rd, trying to get the max acceleration out of corners. On one particular mini straight between corners, I believe it was after turn 7 to turn 9, Max was on average 10+km/hr faster than Lewis, that's the end of sector 1 and that's where he got him for the 0.107 second advantage as he was behind or close to even with Lewis before that section. 

    But the most important bit Is the entry into the last corner, turn 27. Max hits 325km/hr before he slam on the brakes, but he didn't quite take his foot off the throttle, so he was riding both for a bit longer than he wanted. Here is a reference marker on the road. Max is still doing 181km/hr there.

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    Lewis pretty much was using the same brake marker as Max, but by this point he is already down to 154km/hr. Perfect entry speed into the last corner. He rolled off the brake and he is already back on the throttle by the ape and his min speed through the corner was 111km/hr, and on a perfect line out pedal to the metal. 

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    Max is still ahead time wise, but at this point Lewis had already rolled off the brake and just getting ready to get to the inside and get on the throttle, while Max, is still heavy on his brakes. It was likely he would have made the corner still at this point.

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    Max is still slightly ahead, but at this point if he had waited a tiny bit more before getting back on the throttle, he would have made the corner, getting the car back in one piece, but he already totally lost the 1/4 second he worked so hard to gain earlier in the lap. His hero lap is gone by this point. He carried a lower min speed through the corner, has no momentum on top of that. No chance to get the pole. 

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    Max absolutely knew he fucked up the corner, in a desperate move he try to get back on the throttle to see if he can make up the time lost. But that jab only gave him understeer towards the wall. 

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    He has to get off the throttle again to regain control. He knew the wall is coming, in a last ditch effort, he jabbed he throttle again, trying to induce some oversteer to help him rotate the car to make the corner.

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    At this point in time, Max technically is still ahead by about a car length. But over 30km/hr slower than Lewis. He is not getting to the line before Lewis. 

    His jab of throttle finally induced the oversteer he needs to make the corner, but he was too close to the wall when the tail waggled. 

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    Max simply went into the last corner too hot. Locking up the front left was just a consequence of that. His mind was on maximum attack mode. He just wasn't braking hard enough, or that when his DRS flag slammed shut it wasn't providing as much aero drag to slow the car down more. Lewis was touching 325km/hr also, and he got it down to 154km/hr by the reference line by braking at the same spot. Perhaps it was a trick rear wing from Red Bull again?

     

    This wall out of the final corner, could it become the Wall of Champions like the one in Montreal? 


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    That’s not ‘cracking under pressure’, is it? That was high skilled drivers pushing each other to the limit, by the finest margin. Great to watch 👌🏼


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    Lord_Driftalot:

    @CGX car nut

    MV33 cracks under pressure, let's hope for a Merc 1-2 finish and let's see what's gonna happen @Singapur when Lewis is 3 points ahead of the dutch man.

    That’s not ‘cracking under pressure’, is it? That was high skilled drivers pushing each other to the limit, by the finest margin. Ham went off too, in search for the smallest margin. Great to watch 👌🏼


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    Sorry, double post 🙄


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    @Whoopsy

    great analysis, Lewis waa getting it right while Max pushed to hard! And it waa like I said before that he was .4s faster than Lewis only because he was way to fast for the last corner.

    Both drivers were pushing each other very hard but it was obvious that Lewis wasn’t giving it all as he knew there’s no room for mistakes for him.

    @Spudgun

    Lewis went off as well, but it didn’t matter as much as Max‘s mistake 


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    Brilliant qualifying session.

    Netflix must be going nuts with all the material!

     

     


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    What an analysis! You have to move to a F1 team. 
    Since a while I just read your comments rather some other portals. As always perfect observation.

    Thanks a lot for this!


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    ALDO:

    What an analysis! You have to move to a F1 team. 
    Since a while I just read your comments rather some other portals. As always perfect observation.

    Thanks a lot for this!

    What I have been saying!  Looking forward to the race now, thanks Whoopsy!!


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    Lord_Driftalot:

    @Whoopsy

    great analysis, Lewis waa getting it right while Max pushed to hard! And it waa like I said before that he was .4s faster than Lewis only because he was way to fast for the last corner.

    Both drivers were pushing each other very hard but it was obvious that Lewis wasn’t giving it all as he knew there’s no room for mistakes for him.

    @Spudgun

    Lewis went off as well, but it didn’t matter as much as Max‘s mistake 

    Mad Max was .245 faster than Ham up to the last corner. He could have cooled it for that last corner and still been P1,

    Mad Max and his RB kick. Smiley

    Max, get those big boys pants on. Go get those Mercs Smiley


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    @throt

    could, should…. BUT he didn’t 😬

    Go Lewis and win the race!


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    Lord_Driftalot:

    @throt

    could, should…. BUT he didn’t 😬

    Go Lewis and win the race!

    Lewis win, absolutely not Smiley

    if Max wins today to take the title, what a way to do it, P3 behind the 2 of them Smiley


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    Leawood911:
    ALDO:

    What an analysis! You have to move to a F1 team. 
    Since a while I just read your comments rather some other portals. As always perfect observation.

    Thanks a lot for this!

    What I have been saying!  Looking forward to the race now, thanks Whoopsy!!

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    The earlier speed trace tells the whole story.

    Max was in max attack mode, he was delaying his braking points at much as he dare everywhere, trying to carry that little extra bit of entry speed into a corner.

    That's not normal for him. He and Lewis normally are an early braker, slow in fast out is their style. Shocking but they do drive the same that way. 

    I will speculate that Max was just a little bit distracted entering the last corner, it was likely he was taking a peek at his delta time, wanted to see where he stands. But he was doing that entering his braking reference point, hence he overlapped brake and throttle and carried just a tad too much speed going into turn 27. F1 cars have very powerful brakes, it doesn't take a blink of an eye to get rid of 30km/hr, it really was that tiny fraction of a second's difference. 

    Another point that some might miss.

    For all the talks about Hamilton's engine is 'powerful', it would seems Red Bull have tuned UP their Honda engine this weekend, at least for Max. Max is carrying a higher speed in all 3 DRS zones. It's not even about him staying in the throttle longer. His speed trace with Hamilton is neck and neck from corner exits until he just simply pulled away. That's horsepower advantage.

    Fingers crossed for his gearbox to hold up for the race. 

     


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    Meanwhile in Formula 2:

    Race 1: 2 Safety Cars

    Race 2: 3 Safety Cars

    Race 3: Red Flag on lap 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei_-btMaYJI and another crash after the restart. Race cancelled.

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    Can't quite compare F2 drivers to F1 drivers.

    In F2, they are all in max attack mode all the time, banzai moves. They all wanted to make a name for themselves. 

    The red flag at the start was unfortunate, a car stalled on grid. 

     


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    Red flag...Max can chance tires.

    And people say Hamilton is the blessed one lol.


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    Wow, dream scenario for Max.

    After taking the lead after Lewis and Bottas when for a tire change under safety car, the race is red flagged and now Max can change his tires also and keep track position.

    Straight fight to the end between Max and Hamilton now. And Max can do whatever he wants while defending, either he wins or Lewis not finish and he is champion. 

     


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    And more drama on the restart!

    Max definitely lost the corner already going into turn 1, and cut the corner completely to stay in front of Lewis. Totally expected as that's a classic Max move. 

    Would the stewards do anything? 

     


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    This track is a joke


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    Max being Max lol.

    And yes, this track sucks!


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    Max again proved he‘s a prick!

    And now they’re discussing if he‘s going to start from P2?! F1 is getting ridiculous 


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    Max is a piece of garbage… I have from now on zero respect for this driver!


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    He has got his own track when needed yes


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    This race is recycling at its best)) Parts litter bin.

    F1 is ridiculous for a long time, where on Earth could you see the race of limousines?


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