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    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

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    shin said:


    F360 : late 1999
    F430 : late 2004
    F5XX : late 2009



    Late 2008 new F142(project name f430 successor) in europe

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

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    andrea said:
    Quote:
    shin said:


    F360 : late 1999
    F430 : late 2004
    F5XX : late 2009



    Late 2008 new F142(project name f430 successor) in europe



    Andrea, you are always so well informed, any news about the 430 successor yet?

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

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    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    andrea said:
    Quote:
    shin said:


    F360 : late 1999
    F430 : late 2004
    F5XX : late 2009



    Late 2008 new F142(project name f430 successor) in europe



    Andrea, you are always so well informed, any news about the 430 successor yet?



    Yes.
    New f430 will be show at press at mid 2008 and will be on sale for late 2008-start 2009.
    The new f430 development is so huge that couldn't be more an entry level(for price and technology),so the decision to build new "dino"(not the definitive name).
    New chassis for F142,magnetic ride and new onboard electronics.
    Power output near 600hp.New F142 CS will be more track oriented than in the past.

    New F430CS is faster than 599 on fiorano circuit
    599 1.26,5 with new pirelli hero
    430CS 1.25,5 with new pirelli hero

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

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    andrea said:
    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    andrea said:
    Quote:
    shin said:


    F360 : late 1999
    F430 : late 2004
    F5XX : late 2009



    Late 2008 new F142(project name f430 successor) in europe



    Andrea, you are always so well informed, any news about the 430 successor yet?



    Yes.
    New f430 will be show at press at mid 2008 and will be on sale for late 2008-start 2009.
    The new f430 development is so huge that couldn't be more an entry level(for price and technology),so the decision to build new "dino"(not the definitive name).
    New chassis for F142,magnetic ride and new onboard electronics.
    Power output near 600hp.New F142 CS will be more track oriented than in the past.

    New F430CS is faster than 599 on fiorano circuit
    599 1.26,5 with new pirelli hero
    430CS 1.25,5 with new pirelli hero



    Thanks Andrea for your truly outstanding and usefull infos !

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    andrea said:
    Yes.
    New f430 will be show at press at mid 2008 and will be on sale for late 2008-start 2009.
    The new f430 development is so huge that couldn't be more an entry level(for price and technology),so the decision to build new "dino"(not the definitive name).
    New chassis for F142,magnetic ride and new onboard electronics.
    Power output near 600hp.New F142 CS will be more track oriented than in the past.

    New F430CS is faster than 599 on fiorano circuit
    599 1.26,5 with new pirelli hero
    430CS 1.25,5 with new pirelli hero



    Ahem, that's nothing really new. Of course the F430 is due in late 2008 and that it will have magnetic ride is a logical conclusion.

    And the "close to 600hp"-number seems menacing close to the poweroutput of the 599, so I wonder if it won't be more of a "close to 550hp"-number...

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    andrea said:
    Yes.
    New f430 will be show at press at mid 2008 and will be on sale for late 2008-start 2009.
    The new f430 development is so huge that couldn't be more an entry level(for price and technology),so the decision to build new "dino"(not the definitive name).
    New chassis for F142,magnetic ride and new onboard electronics.
    Power output near 600hp.New F142 CS will be more track oriented than in the past.

    New F430CS is faster than 599 on fiorano circuit
    599 1.26,5 with new pirelli hero
    430CS 1.25,5 with new pirelli hero



    Ahem, that's nothing really new. Of course the F430 is due in late 2008 and that it will have magnetic ride is a logical conclusion.

    And the "close to 600hp"-number seems menacing close to the poweroutput of the 599, so I wonder if it won't be more of a "close to 550hp"-number...



    my info at the moment...

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    andrea said:
    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    andrea said:
    Yes.
    New f430 will be show at press at mid 2008 and will be on sale for late 2008-start 2009.
    The new f430 development is so huge that couldn't be more an entry level(for price and technology),so the decision to build new "dino"(not the definitive name).
    New chassis for F142,magnetic ride and new onboard electronics.
    Power output near 600hp.New F142 CS will be more track oriented than in the past.

    New F430CS is faster than 599 on fiorano circuit
    599 1.26,5 with new pirelli hero
    430CS 1.25,5 with new pirelli hero



    Ahem, that's nothing really new. Of course the F430 is due in late 2008 and that it will have magnetic ride is a logical conclusion.

    And the "close to 600hp"-number seems menacing close to the poweroutput of the 599, so I wonder if it won't be more of a "close to 550hp"-number...



    my info at the moment...



    Alright, nothing more than I heard. I guess we have to wait a little bit longer, but mid 2008 is not that long away...

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    I just hope they don't increase the displacement by too much, it has lost that frisky sound as it, one more generation of this and everybody will forget how it was...
    Hope it's body is not bigger also... what would be the point of that.

    Great news for the 430CS, thanks!

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

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    janus said:
    I just hope they don't increase the displacement by too much, it has lost that frisky sound as it, one more generation of this and everybody will forget how it was...
    Hope it's body is not bigger also... what would be the point of that.

    Great news for the 430CS, thanks!



    Janus, you are absolutely right in both points.

    However how can Ferrari cope with the ever increasing powernumbers if not by increasing the displacement? And I don't see a turbo on the horizon.

    And I also hope the cars won't become bigger, in fact they should become a little bit smaller. 599 and even 430 are rather huge cars in every dimension.

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    BTW,

    Did you read interview with some Ferrari technical guys at Auto Zeitung few months ago?
    They claim that with EU5 norm only possible thing is DI Turbo engines for sportscars!

    So, read between the lines...

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    janus said:
    I just hope they don't increase the displacement by too much, it has lost that frisky sound as it, one more generation of this and everybody will forget how it was...
    Hope it's body is not bigger also... what would be the point of that.

    Great news for the 430CS, thanks!



    I wrote wrong,the 599 time is 1.26,0.

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    BTW,

    Did you read interview with some Ferrari technical guys at Auto Zeitung few months ago?
    They claim that with EU5 norm only possible thing is DI Turbo engines for sportscars!

    So, read between the lines...



    In this particular case it seems to be more like "read the lines"...

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    andrea said:
    Yes.
    New f430 will be show at press at mid 2008 and will be on sale for late 2008-start 2009.
    The new f430 development is so huge that couldn't be more an entry level(for price and technology),so the decision to build new "dino"(not the definitive name).
    New chassis for F142,magnetic ride and new onboard electronics.
    Power output near 600hp.New F142 CS will be more track oriented than in the past.

    New F430CS is faster than 599 on fiorano circuit
    599 1.26,5 with new pirelli hero
    430CS 1.25,5 with new pirelli hero



    Ahem, that's nothing really new. Of course the F430 is due in late 2008 and that it will have magnetic ride is a logical conclusion.

    And the "close to 600hp"-number seems menacing close to the poweroutput of the 599, so I wonder if it won't be more of a "close to 550hp"-number...



    My initial iformation was 550hp. However, because of the Gallardo, Porsche (TTS) and other possible competitors it appears Ferrari will have to kick up the hp. This is important because the replacement will be a five year model run.

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    BTW,

    Did you read interview with some Ferrari technical guys at Auto Zeitung few months ago?
    They claim that with EU5 norm only possible thing is DI Turbo engines for sportscars!

    So, read between the lines...



    So, reading between the lines, what you are saying is that we better get used to liking vaccum cleaners, no?

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    BTW,

    Did you read interview with some Ferrari technical guys at Auto Zeitung few months ago?
    They claim that with EU5 norm only possible thing is DI Turbo engines for sportscars!

    So, read between the lines...



    In this particular case it seems to be more like "read the lines"...



    Well, at least you will have an excuse for buying the GT2 .

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    andrea said:
    Yes.
    New f430 will be show at press at mid 2008 and will be on sale for late 2008-start 2009.
    The new f430 development is so huge that couldn't be more an entry level(for price and technology),so the decision to build new "dino"(not the definitive name).
    New chassis for F142,magnetic ride and new onboard electronics.
    Power output near 600hp.New F142 CS will be more track oriented than in the past.

    New F430CS is faster than 599 on fiorano circuit
    599 1.26,5 with new pirelli hero
    430CS 1.25,5 with new pirelli hero



    Ahem, that's nothing really new. Of course the F430 is due in late 2008 and that it will have magnetic ride is a logical conclusion.

    And the "close to 600hp"-number seems menacing close to the poweroutput of the 599, so I wonder if it won't be more of a "close to 550hp"-number...



    My initial iformation was 550hp. However, because of the Gallardo, Porsche (TTS) and other possible competitors it appears Ferrari will have to kick up the hp. This is important because the replacement will be a five year model run.



    That's right, the successor will be the first half of the model cycle, which means it will have to last longer than the second, facelifted model. Let's only hope they'll get the design right and that the car won't become too big.

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    BTW,

    Did you read interview with some Ferrari technical guys at Auto Zeitung few months ago?
    They claim that with EU5 norm only possible thing is DI Turbo engines for sportscars!

    So, read between the lines...



    I don't believe we will already see a turbo in the next generation V8, perhaps later, but not in the 430-successor.

    Re: "A lighter, faster, more hardcore F430 is due

    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    BTW,

    Did you read interview with some Ferrari technical guys at Auto Zeitung few months ago?
    They claim that with EU5 norm only possible thing is DI Turbo engines for sportscars!

    So, read between the lines...



    Nice, let's bring back the Turbo charge Ferrari!

    Do you have that interview online?

     
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