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Mar 18, 2005 2:51:58 AM

Patriot: Junior; Loc: Texas; Posts: 111, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 13, 2004

The Waiting is the Hardest Part

As Tom Petty sings. Those of you who are waiting on your 997's may be thinking the waiting for your car to arrive is the hardest part, but those of us - like me - who have our 997's but are waiting until we cross the 2000 mile break-in barrier - the waiting for *that* is the hardest part. Honestly, I've got 1500 miles on my 997 and I can already hear the throatier growl. . . I can feel the power gathering strength and kickin' in, even at 4k RPM, and I'm just counting the days until I can open her up. Anyone hear what I'm talking about?

Patriot
'05 911 Carrera (Arctic Silver/Black) Dec. 04 build
19" Carrera S Wheels
Xenons
Sport Steering Wheel
Nav
Bose
Power Seat Package
Heated Seats

Simply, the best car I've ever owned . . .

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Mar 18, 2005 3:21:30 AM

SoCal Alan: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Orange County , United States; Posts: 7268, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 6, 2004; Reply to: Patriot

Re: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

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Patriot said:
Anyone hear what I'm talking about?

I hear ya, brutha. I'm at almost 1000 miles now, so I've still got a ways to go. This is torture trying to break in a 997 but somebody's got to do it.

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Mar 18, 2005 7:21:32 AM

muhri: Pilot; Loc: Saudi Arabia , Saudi Arabia; Posts: 389, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 30, 2003; Reply to: SoCal Alan

Re: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

Personally, I gave it to it gradually, stuck below 4k rpm till 800 km's then 800-1500 I let her go beyond 4k up to 6k and from 1500 km onwards, I let her rip but no always.. now at 1936 km Its ready to fly

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Mar 18, 2005 8:31:03 AM

Leong: Co-Pilot; Loc: Auckland, NZ; Posts: 284, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 24, 2004; Reply to: Patriot

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Absolutely!! I took the week off to run in the car!! Up to 1350km of 3000 now. Should be run in by Easter. But I think waiting for the car to arrive is much worse.... at least we can sit in and drive ours

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Mar 18, 2005 3:27:22 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: Leong

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Waiting for break in isn't THAT bad. When you finally get to drive the car to it's limits it's only a few minutes of thrill and then you "forget" about it. Then you can drive the car to it's limits now and then and so, what? Most of the driving you are doing today will be the same you will be doing when the car is broken in. It's not like your car suddenly transforms into a supercar or something. I hope this helps.

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Mar 18, 2005 4:21:02 PM

69bossnine: Rennteam Pro; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 2028, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

LOL, my dealer's master mechanic of over 30 years experience basically said "**** the owner's manual, they use that chapter for insurance, vary your speed for the 1st 500 miles, and then let her rip." He then gave me two quarts of Mobile 1, told me to watch my oil because chrome rings take awhile to seat, and said "have fun". I haven't been hard on my car at all, but I've had a few swings to the redline, and she's running great at 600 miles so-far.

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Mar 18, 2005 5:30:37 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: 69bossnine

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LOL, my dealer's master mechanic of over 30 years experience basically said "**** the owner's manual, they use that chapter for insurance, vary your speed for the 1st 500 miles, and then let her rip."

Only problem may be, and I am not sure of this, is that the cars "black box" may be recording the "violations" one commits against the mfgr's recommendations. Could this be true?

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Mar 18, 2005 6:51:10 PM

69bossnine: Rennteam Pro; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 2028, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2005; Reply to: MMD

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Your warranty is not voided if you don't follow the "suggested" (hint-hint) break-in procedure. Just think about it....Every single demo 911 in the country would be devoid of warranty, and unsaleable junk, if that were the case. I know I revved the [censored] out of the Carrera S I test drove back in September, and it had only 50 miles on it. It was just finally sold to a customer about 1 month ago, after having served as the dealer's punching-bag-tester for 4 months. The motor in your own car was revved to redline repeatedly on the factory's dyno, before your car ever saw the light of day. For those out there who've never torn-down and rebuilt a motor, trust me, you're stressing way too much over this break-in deal. If you rev it over 4,000 a few times, nothing is going to happen, and you're not going to cause premature failure years down the road unless something was drastically wrong and defective with your motor to begin with (in which case, your motor will break or fail eventually anyhow, no matter how much you baby it for the first 2,000 miles). The only reason they print that silliness is in an overkill effort to "stem the tide" of customers who would abuse the cars horrifically right off of the lot, so that their warranty claims might be a little lower. Any Porsche mechanic will roll their eyes, chuckle, and tell you to relax if you told them you were worried about the break-in. The factory figures that for every guy driving the car as if he were walking on eggshells, that's one less guy absolutely hammering a car within the warranty's term of liability.

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Mar 18, 2005 7:18:03 PM

ADias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Southwest USA , United States; Posts: 2495, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 9, 2004; Reply to: 69bossnine

Proper break-in...

I'm in favor of doing a proper break-in and driving mostly under 4kRPM during the 1st 2000 miles. However, one should avoid driving always at a constant RPM - varying regime is key. And with te engine fully warmed up, occasional quick jumps to 5-6kRPM is good too - never in first gear and don't keep it there long. This is easy to do in traffic, shifting down for passing, is a good way to vary the regime and fully break the engine. My 0.02.

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Mar 19, 2005 1:08:44 AM

long720: Co-Pilot; Loc: japan; Posts: 172, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 8, 2005; Reply to: ADias

Re: Proper break-in...

forgive my ignorance but what does "chrome rings take awhile to seat" means? thanks for the education in advance!!

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Mar 19, 2005 4:34:49 AM

Rasta: Junior; Loc: New York, NY, USA; Posts: 125, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 15, 2004; Reply to: 69bossnine

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69bossnine said:
Your warranty is not voided if you don't follow the "suggested" (hint-hint) break-in procedure. Just think about it....Every single demo 911 in the country would be devoid of warranty, and unsaleable junk, if that were the case. I know I revved the [censored] out of the Carrera S I test drove back in September, and it had only 50 miles on it. It was just finally sold to a customer about 1 month ago, after having served as the dealer's punching-bag-tester for 4 months. The motor in your own car was revved to redline repeatedly on the factory's dyno, before your car ever saw the light of day. For those out there who've never torn-down and rebuilt a motor, trust me, you're stressing way too much over this break-in deal. If you rev it over 4,000 a few times, nothing is going to happen, and you're not going to cause premature failure years down the road unless something was drastically wrong and defective with your motor to begin with (in which case, your motor will break or fail eventually anyhow, no matter how much you baby it for the first 2,000 miles). The only reason they print that silliness is in an overkill effort to "stem the tide" of customers who would abuse the cars horrifically right off of the lot, so that their warranty claims might be a little lower. Any Porsche mechanic will roll their eyes, chuckle, and tell you to relax if you told them you were worried about the break-in. The factory figures that for every guy driving the car as if he were walking on eggshells, that's one less guy absolutely hammering a car within the warranty's term of liability.

Very well written. Agree with 100%.

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Mar 19, 2005 2:56:39 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: long720

Re: Proper break-in...

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long720 said:
forgive my ignorance but what does "chrome rings take awhile to seat" means? thanks for the education in advance!!

Piston rings are made from a chrome alloy, which is harder than "typical" rings and so they take longer to wear in.

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