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    2013 spy photos?

    Anyone have any, i hear mild refresh for 2013 so i plan to order 2013 turbo s, delivery expected september 2012

    Is there a bigger redesign confirmed for 2014?

    Thanks, best to all

    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    I don't want to sound arrogant or rude but did you completely miss the 991 introduction ? yes


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    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    Watt posted this in the Panamera section, so I think he means Panamera refresh, not 911.yes


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    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    Carrageous:

    Watt posted this in the Panamera section, so I think he means Panamera refresh, not 911.yes

    Oh boy...I'm so... Smiley

    Something seems to be wrong with my browser, I clicked on Porsche 911 and it showed me watt's thread, so I assumed he means the 911 Turbo S. Sorry about that. Smiley

    Here is the correct answer now: There will be, according to various rumors, a Panamera facelift. This facelift will affect the Turbo S too but according to rumors, power stays unchanged or almost unchanged on the turbo models, whatever this means.

    The current Panamera Turbo S is the hell of a car, you can't go wrong if it, even if Porsche changes a couple of things. If

    Minor improvements are also made during model years, mostly stuff customers can't see like technical improvements or quality improvements. Unfortunately Porsche doesn't always provide details but it is (kind of) possible to look up some changes in the PiWiS system.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    Yes thanks, i have no interest in 991. Which seems to be the new coupe gt version of panemera:)

    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    watt:
    Yes thanks, i have no interest in 991. Which seems to be the new coupe gt version of panemera:)

    Nope. The Panamera Coupe is on its way... Smiley Smiley

    It the 991 would be a GT, it wouldn't be the fastest 911 (in it's specific model range) ever on the track.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    Making a joke RC

    Based on appearance of 991

    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    watt:
    Making a joke RC

    Based on appearance of 991

    Have you seen it in person ? Smiley

    The Panamera Turbo S is a great choice, I would get one in a second if A. I could afford it, B. I could explain to my neighbors how and why and C. If my wife wouldn't drive me crazy with her need for five seats in case her parents show up. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    RC:
    watt:
    Making a joke RC

    Based on appearance of 991

    Have you seen it in person ? Smiley

    The Panamera Turbo S is a great choice, I would get one in a second if A. I could afford it, B. I could explain to my neighbors how and why and C. If my wife wouldn't drive me crazy with her need for five seats in case her parents show up. Smiley

    You really need to move to the U.S.  No need to explain to the libtard neighbors anything because it's none of their fu*king business.


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    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    get a tow itch that way you can put the them in the trailer

    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    RC:
    watt:
    Making a joke RC

    Based on appearance of 991

    Have you seen it in person ? Smiley

    The Panamera Turbo S is a great choice, I would get one in a second if A. I could afford it, B. I could explain to my neighbors how and why and C. If my wife wouldn't drive me crazy with her need for five seats in case her parents show up. Smiley

     

    I can solve B for you. Take out all the Porsche badges from and rear, replace them with a custom made Porche badge, tell your neighbours that it's a Chinese knock off for 1/5 the price.


    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    SoCal Alan:
    RC:
    watt:
    Making a joke RC

    Based on appearance of 991

    Have you seen it in person ? Smiley

    The Panamera Turbo S is a great choice, I would get one in a second if A. I could afford it, B. I could explain to my neighbors how and why and C. If my wife wouldn't drive me crazy with her need for five seats in case her parents show up. Smiley

    You really need to move to the U.S.  No need to explain to the libtard neighbors anything because it's none of their fu*king business.

    Smiley


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 


    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    SoCal Alan:
    RC:
    watt:
    Making a joke RC

    Based on appearance of 991

    Have you seen it in person ? Smiley

    The Panamera Turbo S is a great choice, I would get one in a second if A. I could afford it, B. I could explain to my neighbors how and why and C. If my wife wouldn't drive me crazy with her need for five seats in case her parents show up. Smiley

    You really need to move to the U.S.  No need to explain to the libtard neighbors anything because it's none of their fu*king business.

    Nice!


    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    SoCal Alan:
     

    You really need to move to the U.S.  No need to explain to the libtard neighbors anything because it's none of their fu*king business.

    I would...if I could. Smiley

    My wife, she is a physician, would have some possibilities but right now, we stick to the life we have. If the economic situation (and of course the envy situation) gets worse over here, we will reconsider. Unfortunately this would also mean that my wife would need to work and I would need to take care of the kids...and find something I could do from home (computers, etc.). Unfortunately I can't make a fortune as a pharmacist in the US. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    But cars, especially Porsche, are so much cheaper in the US, cheapest in the world in fact....................


    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    The 2012 panemera turbo s and my 2011 turbo s cab are $174000 us -- arent they almost that in euros?

    The us $ being the weak rag that it is, you can tell your wife youre buying real goods to preempt inflation:)
    Of course gold kilos would be more sensible:)

    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    Turbo S Cab's list price in Canada is CAD$196,400, with the exchange rate it's about the same amount in US$.

    Panamera Turbo S's CAD$198,100.

    That's not counting options. Price difference is getting closer, but Canadian pricing is still quite a bit cheaper than Europeans.

    German list price for a Panamera Turbo S is just over 167k Euro, that's almost US$230k, Turbo S cab is 184k Euro, just over US$250k.

    See the difference and how much CHEAPER you Americans are buying them?


    Re: 2013 spy photos?

    Actually the price on the turrbo S cab back in 2010 when I ordered it was $174,000. Subsequently my wife opted for a regular TT Cab. which was about $12,000 cheaper.


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