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    Re: New Porsche EV

    Most likely Boxster EV replacement?



    Re: New Porsche EV

    If one wants to go by that image, the new car is definitely not a EV 718. 

     


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    Re: New Porsche EV

    The lights on this car have nothing in common to what was shown in the teaser earlier on.

    This could be related to the upcoming LMDh

     

     


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    Porsche at the IAA Mobility 2021: livestream of world premiere and open stand concept...

    (3 September 2021)

    In the run-up to the IAA Mobility 2021, Porsche is offering a spectacular insight into the future of motorsport.

    Follow the unveiling of a futuristic concept car live on Monday 6 September 2021 from 15:00 (CEST) or 14:00 UK time. 

    Motorsports have always served as a catalyst for innovation at Porsche. For more than 70 years now, the sports car manufacturer from Stuttgart has used this stage to showcase its pioneering spirit, its research and development, and its passion for state-of-the-art mobility.

    Even before the start of this year's IAA Mobility 2021 in Munich (from 7 to 12 September), Porsche is offering a spectacular look at the future of motorsports with the unveiling of a futuristic concept study. This world premiere will start on Monday, 6 September, at 15:00 (CEST).

    Among those taking part in the presentation will be two-time overall Le Mans winner and current Porsche brand ambassador Timo Bernhard, and US actor Patrick Dempsey (Grey’s Anatomy). The Hollywood star can himself lay claim to numerous racing successes at the wheel of a Porsche 911 RSR.

    Timo Bernhard, 356 SL, 2021, Porsche AG

    Timo Bernhard

    Patrick Dempsey, Porsche Brand Ambassador, 911 RSR, Qualifying, Long Beach, IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship, 2018, Porsche AG

    Timo Bernhard

    The event will be broadcast in German and English on the Porsche Media platforms newsroom.porsche.com and newstv.porsche.com from 15:00 on Monday. Porsche’s social media feeds on YouTubeFacebook and LinkedIn will be showing the event live with English commentary.

    For the first time, journalists and fans will have the opportunity to get up close via Smart TV: the Porsche TV app is available on Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV, LG TV and all appropriate Samsung devices.

    IAA Mobility with a new concept

    The IAA Mobility in the Bavarian capital is this year pursuing a completely new concept: the exhibitors' stands are spread out across the entire city of Munich. Porsche will be welcoming fans of the sports car brand, and any visitors interested in innovative mobility, at Wittelsbacher Platz in the Maxvorstadt district.

    Numerous star guests are expected on stage to present the Porsche product range and the latest developments from Weissach, including Hollywood actor Michael Fassbender (X-Men). The German-Irish amateur racing driver has been competing for the past two years in events such as the European Le Mans Series driving a Porsche 911 RSR.

    Porsche stand at Wittelsbacher Platz, IAA Mobility 2021, Munich, Germany, 2021, Porsche AG

    Porsche stand at Wittelsbacher Platz in Munich

    The programme will also include realistic driving simulators, the latest technology in mobile charging, the Porsche Turbo Charging rapid charging park and test drives in the Porsche Taycan as well as numerous activities organised by Porsche Motorsport’s premium partners. Porsche e-bikes will also be available for test rides at Wittelsbacher Platz. The Porsche Forum in the centre of Munich will open to the public on Tuesday, 7 September at 14:00 (CEST). Regular updates are available on Porsche's social media channels.

    Media enquiries: Holger Eckhardt (Spokesperson GT and Customer Motorsports) 

    Link:  https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2021/motorsports/porsche-concept-study-motorsport-world-premiere-iaa-mobility-2021-munich-25584....

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    Re: New Porsche EV

    The car in the picture looks suspiciously similar to this one:

    https://youtu.be/d_pco5czDfE

     


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    Porsche at the IAA Mobility 2021: livestream of world premiere and open stand concept...

    09/03/2021

    In the run-up to the IAA Mobility 2021, Porsche is offering a spectacular insight into the future of motorsport. Follow the unveiling of a futuristic concept car live on Monday, September 6, at 9:00 am (EST). 

    Video Link:  https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2021/company/porsche-concept-study-motorsport-world-premiere-iaa-mobility-2021-munich-25597.h...


    Re: New Porsche EV

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Porsche at the IAA Mobility 2021: livestream of world premiere and open stand concept...

    09/03/2021

    In the run-up to the IAA Mobility 2021, Porsche is offering a spectacular insight into the future of motorsport. Follow the unveiling of a futuristic concept car live on Monday, September 6, at 9:00 am (EST). 

    Video Link:  https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2021/company/porsche-concept-study-motorsport-world-premiere-iaa-mobility-2021-munich-25597.h...

    Porsche Mission R concept...

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    Porsche Mission R concept 2.png

    Video Link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke5kHw9ZZps


    Re: New Porsche EV

    This can easily become the next  EV Cayman, but hopefully not the 918 replacement.


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    Re: New Porsche EV

    Gnil:

    This can easily become the next  EV Cayman, but hopefully not the 918 replacement.


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    Agree


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    Re: New Porsche EV

    For the sake of motor racing, I hope this stays as a "concept car" for many, many years to come.


    Re: New Porsche EV

    Didn’t got anything under the idea of this? Any help? :)

    Design hints, performance, place in motorsport…?


    Re: New Porsche EV

    Boyko23:

    Didn’t got anything under the idea of this? Any help? :)

    Design hints, performance, place in motorsport…?

    Yeah, its a bit confusing. This is my take:

    Porsche is adamant ,from time to time, to demonstrate just how committed they are to the "400ppm" religion. They insist on producing product that very few really asked for, and that are essentially marketing/political hype.

    Motorsport: There is no motorsport class for this car as yet. Perhaps in the future, but judging from Porsches performance in Formula E, it will get its ass thoroughly whipped.


    Re: New Porsche EV

    Porsche to present its future-driven Mission R concept study

    09/06/2021

    Right on time for the start of the IAA Mobility 2021 in Munich (from September 7-12), Porsche is to provide a spectacular look into the automotive future. The Mission R concept car combines state-of-the-art technologies and sustainable materials, such as natural fiber-reinforced plastics, with a passion for racing.

    In addition to a progressive design, the extremely low-slung, all-electric competition car features the characteristic lines of the sports cars from Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen. The two newly developed electric motors incorporated in the Porsche Mission R deliver up to 1,073 hp (800 kW) in so-called qualifying mode. The battery capacity of around 80 kWh and the innovative recuperation system make sprint racing possible with no loss of output. 

    Mission R, Concept study, 2021, Porsche AG

    Mission R, Concept study, 2021, Porsche AG

    Mission R, Concept study, 2021, Porsche AG

    Mission R, Concept study, 2021, Porsche AG

    Mission R, Concept study, 2021, Porsche AG

    Mission R, Concept study, 2021, Porsche AG

    "Porsche is the brand for people who fulfil their dreams. This is also true in motorsports. We experience our innovative strength on the race track, demonstrate courage in pursuing new avenues and delight car owners with sporting performance," says Oliver Blume, Chairman of the Executive Board of Porsche AG. "In addition to our involvement in the Formula E World Championship, we are now taking the next big step forward in electric mobility. The concept study is our vision of all-electric customer motorsports. The Mission R embodies everything that makes Porsche strong: performance, design and sustainability." 

    Customer motorsports enjoy a high level of esteem at Porsche

    Since the start of the Porsche Carrera Cup Deutschland 31 years ago, the sports car manufacturer has produced and delivered more than 4,400 Cup cars from Weissach. A total of 30 one-make cup series are held worldwide on the basis of these reliable, high-performance racing cars. The latest version of the 911 GT3 Cup was not launched until the start of this year's 2021 motorsport season and is based on the 992 model generation. The Porsche Mission R provides an indication of what the future of one-make series with all-electric cars could look like. 

    The all-wheel drive car delivering more than 1,070 hp in qualifying mode accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in less than 2.5 seconds. Top track speed: over 186 mph. On the race track, the electric racer achieves the same lap time performance as the current Porsche 911 GT3 Cup. Thanks to newly designed electric motors and battery cells – all equipped with innovative direct oil cooling – the Porsche Mission R concept study produces a constant power output of 671 hp (500 kW) in race mode. So-called derating, i.e. reduction of the battery‘s power output due to thermal conditions, has been eliminated.

    900-volt technology and Porsche Turbo Charging

    An electric motor with up to 429 hp (320 kW) powers the front axle, while a maximum of 480 kW (653 PS) is delivered to the rear. Thanks to advanced 900-volt technology and Porsche Turbo Charging, a good 15-minute break from racing is all that is needed to charge the battery from 5 to 80 percent SoC (state of charge). Charging can take place with up to 340 kW. The Mission R also features a further development of Porsche Active Aerodynamics (PAA) with Drag Reduction System (DRS) on the nose section and rear wing. It comprises three louvres in each of the two side air intakes on the nose section as well as an adjustable, two-section rear wing. 

    In addition to the innovative, battery-electric drive concept, the body of the concept car also focuses on CO2 reduction and sustainability: it is largely made of natural fibre reinforced plastic (NFRP), the basic material of which is made from flax fibers obtained from farming. This ecological material is also used for the front spoiler lip, the diffuser and the side skirts. NFRP is used extensively in the interior of the Mission R, such as the interior door panels, the rear bulkhead and the seat. 

    The interior design focuses on the driver in all areas. An ergonomically placed display between the controls on the steering wheel shows relevant data during the race. The monitor above the steering column shows the images from the side mirror cameras and the central rear-view mirror camera. A touch display to the right of the seat can be used to call up the driver's biometric data, for instance. Numerous other cameras in the interior can be used to provide exciting sequences for a live stream transmission. 

    With the Mission R project, Porsche is bringing real and virtual racing closer together than ever before. The monocoque driver's module in exactly the same form also doubles as an esports simulator. The safety structure made of carbon fibre composite material combines high protection potential for the driver with low weight and a distinctive look. Porsche engineers and designers have named the newly developed carbon roof structure the "exoskeleton". It combines safety cage and roof skin. At 4,326 millimeters (170.3 inches) in length, the Porsche Mission R is slightly shorter than the current 718 Cayman series, but it is noticeably wider at 1,990 millimeters (78.3 inches) and with an external height of 1,190 millimeters (46.8 inches) is also significantly lower. 

    Mission E concept studies by Porsche

    In the course of the last few years, with the Mission E (2015) and Mission E Cross Turismo (2018) concept studies, Porsche has given unmistakeable previews of its first all-electric sports car model series to come. The Porsche Taycan sports saloon (2019) and the Taycan Cross Turismo cross-utility vehicle (2021) closely resemble the two concept studies in terms of appearance and technology, and have already been successfully launched on the world markets – mission accomplished in other words. Now, with the Mission R, Porsche is presenting its vision of what customer motorsports will look like in the future. The show car celebrated its world premiere today at the IAA Mobility in Munich. 

    Link: https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2021/company/porsche-mission-r-concept-study-motorsport-iaa-mobility-2021-munich-25623.html


    Re: New Porsche EV

    Spyderidol:
    Boyko23:

    Didn’t got anything under the idea of this? Any help? :)

    Design hints, performance, place in motorsport…?

    Yeah, its a bit confusing. This is my take:

    Porsche is adamant ,from time to time, to demonstrate just how committed they are to the "400ppm" religion. They insist on producing product that very few really asked for, and that are essentially marketing/political hype.

    Motorsport: There is no motorsport class for this car as yet. Perhaps in the future, but judging from Porsches performance in Formula E, it will get its ass thoroughly whipped.

    I think also by developing concepts like these, they can write off certain development costs, or find an "application" for components that were developed, more as a showcase of "this is what's possible, NOW". In addition, it can function as a design guideline for future models.

    Also, when performing R&D, you work with a number of TRLs -Technology Readiness Levels. For example the concept of the exoskeleton or the use of flax fibers can be developed at a low level, but before you want to apply it at an industrial scale, you first have to apply it in a near production-ready fullscale prototype. Platforms like these can function as technology carriers for such developments.


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    Re: New Porsche EV

    Joost:
    Spyderidol:
    Boyko23:

    Didn’t got anything under the idea of this? Any help? :)

    Design hints, performance, place in motorsport…?

    Yeah, its a bit confusing. This is my take:

    Porsche is adamant ,from time to time, to demonstrate just how committed they are to the "400ppm" religion. They insist on producing product that very few really asked for, and that are essentially marketing/political hype.

    Motorsport: There is no motorsport class for this car as yet. Perhaps in the future, but judging from Porsches performance in Formula E, it will get its ass thoroughly whipped.

    I think also by developing concepts like these, they can write off certain development costs, or find an "application" for components that were developed, more as a showcase of "this is what's possible, NOW". In addition, it can function as a design guideline for future models.

    Also, when performing R&D, you work with a number of TRLs -Technology Readiness Levels. For example the concept of the exoskeleton or the use of flax fibers can be developed at a low level, but before you want to apply it at an industrial scale, you first have to apply it in a near production-ready fullscale prototype. Platforms like these can function as technology carriers for such developments.

    Great! As long as it just that, then I'm happy.


    Re: New Porsche EV

    1000+ PS to achieve the same lap time as the current 911GT3 Cup,

    The enemy: Weight, weight , weight!!! 

    https://twitter.com/PorscheRaces/status/1434886605274222593?s=20


    Porsche Mission R...

    ***** Porsche Mission R -- Official Press Photos *****   CC728175-19EB-4A81-8294-9590C8A82363.gif

    ...maybe a few of these design elements will feature in future road cars!?! Smiley

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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    First thing you will see in future road cars is the color,  this new ( fire)  red 


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    The car is not bad looking. For me its the battery operated part that makes it distasteful. (I didn't even like battery operated toys when I was a kid)

    I think that this may be where its eventually heading: https://www.fia.com/news/fia-announces-groundbreaking-electric-gt-category


    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    Spyderidol:

    The car is not bad looking. For me its the battery operated part that makes it distasteful. (I didn't even like battery operated toys when I was a kid)

    I think that this may be where its eventually heading: https://www.fia.com/news/fia-announces-groundbreaking-electric-gt-category

    Agreed. Perhaps we will see Porsche shift resources from Formula E into the new FIA Electric GT category...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    I have just learned that apparently this car was not constructed to the FIA’s new Electric GT Championship regulations.

    That is not to say that Porsche wont build another car based on this.

     


    Re: New Porsche EV

    Spyderidol:

    1000+ PS to achieve the same lap time as the current 911GT3 Cup,

    The enemy: Weight, weight , weight!!! 

    https://twitter.com/PorscheRaces/status/1434886605274222593?s=20

    The enemy is the drivetrain in general, who's going to watch these things zooming past. Looking at the 'success' of Formula E...


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    As expected the announced car is a race car, not a prototype of any road variants.

    Think of this as the electric version of the Cup car. 30min race time is good enough for the intended purpose. 

    As usual, Porsche doesn't need to build a car specifically for one category/class, if the car is good, a sanctioned class will magically appears, see SRO GT4, GT2. The Cup car wasn't built for any series, it has it's own one make series. But Porsche evolved and adapt that to the GT3R for the GT3 class and then the RSR for the GTLM/GTE class. GT racing has always been the focus of Porsche, this Mission R continues that tradition.

    There is no better way to test car stuff than going racing. Racing breaks stuff, pushes stuff to the limit and beyond, that's what drives manufacturers to make better stuff. 

    As it stands, it remains a concept/vision, things can still change going forward. 

    As it stands, Formula E is a spec series with some gimmicks thrown in, not really Porsche's cup of tea, it doesn't really showcase Porsche's engineering prowess. A new electric GT series however would. 

    Can this thing spawn a road car? Looking at the proportions, a electric 928 comes to mind immediately. Next up could be a electric Panamera. Or perhaps Taycan version 2.0. The Mission E platform is already just about 5 years old, advancement in hardware means a replacement is due, software updates can only do so much as the undying hardware will be the limiting factor. 

    Wonder what Ring time this thing can do.


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    Re: Porsche Mission R...

    So funny this morning when I first saw the pictures.

    From the front, I thought I was looking at an RX-7 with a aftermarket bodykit.

    Side view I see a Koenigsegg. 

    It just looks so un-Porsche like. 

     


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    Re: New Porsche EV

    Porker:
    Spyderidol:

    1000+ PS to achieve the same lap time as the current 911GT3 Cup,

    The enemy: Weight, weight , weight!!! 

    https://twitter.com/PorscheRaces/status/1434886605274222593?s=20

    The enemy is the drivetrain in general, who's going to watch these things zooming past. Looking at the 'success' of Formula E...

    100% in agreement.


    Re: New Porsche EV

    This looks like a preview of the next generation Cayman


    Re: New Porsche EV

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    Sketches of the car looks so nice and aggressive............What happened between that and the real thing


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    Re: New Porsche EV

    Porsche call sell these to customers for R-Cup one make series?

    Btw, FIA sections says that it has to be "Road car based".

    Looking forward to the future.  


    Re: New Porsche EV

    Very nice, but burn it please, Mr. Blume


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