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    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    KresoF1:
    MKSGR:
    artur777:

    Kreso F1, 

    will be it really faster than MP4-12C in lap times? and why wont Turbo S be faste than Mp4-12C in straight line acceleration? its very dissapointing

    How could the 991 turbo S be faster? It has about 70hp less than the McLaren and is heavier as well. AWD will only help below 60mph.

    Markus,

    991 Turbo S will officialy have more then 530ps. Unofficially-even more...SmileySmiley

    But the McLaren has approx. 625hp Smiley 625 - 70 = ....


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    MKSGR:
    KresoF1:
    MKSGR:
    artur777:

    Kreso F1, 

    will be it really faster than MP4-12C in lap times? and why wont Turbo S be faste than Mp4-12C in straight line acceleration? its very dissapointing

    How could the 991 turbo S be faster? It has about 70hp less than the McLaren and is heavier as well. AWD will only help below 60mph.

    Markus,

    991 Turbo S will officialy have more then 530ps. Unofficially-even more...SmileySmiley

    But the McLaren has approx. 625hp Smiley 625 - 70 = ....

    But Porsche HP count for the most in terms of performance Smiley

    I honestly doubt that the TT (should we now say TTT) or TT(T)S will be introduced at the same time. That is very not Porsche like. If anything the faster model you are thinking of (TT(T)S) will be badged the Turbo and then in a couple of years, near the end of the model cycle, we will see an even faster Turbo S to keep up with development and start clearing the 991 parts bins. At least that's how it has been... Do not see a point in bringing both. The Turbo itself is it epic machine and I am really excited to see how Porsche will bring it out... The 991 models so far are very impressive and sexy.


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    1991 BMW 535i Granitsilber/White Leather (Canada)
    1991 BMW 318i Brilliantrot/Black Leather (Germany)

    Ex: '89 525i, '74 280E, '87 325is, '86 325e, '05 FF, '85.5 944

    
    

    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    MKSGR:
    KresoF1:
    MKSGR:
    artur777:

    Kreso F1, 

    will be it really faster than MP4-12C in lap times? and why wont Turbo S be faste than Mp4-12C in straight line acceleration? its very dissapointing

    How could the 991 turbo S be faster? It has about 70hp less than the McLaren and is heavier as well. AWD will only help below 60mph.

    Markus,

    991 Turbo S will officialy have more then 530ps. Unofficially-even more...SmileySmiley

    But the McLaren has approx. 625hp Smiley 625 - 70 = ....

    It's a guess.

    As far as I know MP4-12C recently has been tested and showed up 10,5 secs for 1/4 mile at 136 mph (220 kmh)... Its somewhere 8,5 secs for 0-200 kmh

     

    And it is a RWD car! So Turbo S has to be even faster at the start to match up in higher speed.

     


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    artur777:
    MKSGR:
    KresoF1:
    MKSGR:
    artur777:

    Kreso F1, 

    will be it really faster than MP4-12C in lap times? and why wont Turbo S be faste than Mp4-12C in straight line acceleration? its very dissapointing

    How could the 991 turbo S be faster? It has about 70hp less than the McLaren and is heavier as well. AWD will only help below 60mph.

    Markus,

    991 Turbo S will officialy have more then 530ps. Unofficially-even more...SmileySmiley

    But the McLaren has approx. 625hp Smiley 625 - 70 = ....

    It's a guess.

    As far as I know MP4-12C recently has been tested and showed up 10,5 secs for 1/4 mile at 136 mph (220 kmh)... Its somewhere 8,5 secs for 0-200 kmh

     

    And it is a RWD car! So Turbo S has to be even faster at the start to match up in higher speed.

     

    Source ?

    I have seen a 10,55s run at 134,6 mph with the updated 625hp car. While McLaren community is raving about this fastest ever result, it is still short of McLaren official claim of 10,6 @ 136 mph, as usual, since MP4-12 both pre/post update has difficulties to reach performance claims.

    http://www.dragtimes.com/blog/mclaren-mp4-12c-runs-10-55-134-56-mph-drag-racing-14-mile-quickest-production-car-behind-the-veyro...


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    Will the 911 Turbo get an updated AWD system that will be able to disengage the front wheels and transfer all the power completely to the rear wheels after 75mph ? that would be very cool


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    mv:
    artur777:
    MKSGR:
    KresoF1:
    MKSGR:
    artur777:

    Kreso F1, 

    will be it really faster than MP4-12C in lap times? and why wont Turbo S be faste than Mp4-12C in straight line acceleration? its very dissapointing

    How could the 991 turbo S be faster? It has about 70hp less than the McLaren and is heavier as well. AWD will only help below 60mph.

    Markus,

    991 Turbo S will officialy have more then 530ps. Unofficially-even more...SmileySmiley

    But the McLaren has approx. 625hp Smiley 625 - 70 = ....

    It's a guess.

    As far as I know MP4-12C recently has been tested and showed up 10,5 secs for 1/4 mile at 136 mph (220 kmh)... Its somewhere 8,5 secs for 0-200 kmh

     

    And it is a RWD car! So Turbo S has to be even faster at the start to match up in higher speed.

     

    Source ?

    I have seen a 10,55s run at 134,6 mph with the updated 625hp car. While McLaren community is raving about this fastest ever result, it is still short of McLaren official claim of 10,6 @ 136 mph, as usual, since MP4-12 both pre/post update has difficulties to reach performance claims.

    http://www.dragtimes.com/blog/mclaren-mp4-12c-runs-10-55-134-56-mph-drag-racing-14-mile-quickest-production-car-behind-the-veyro...

    I think we mean both the same test! I just have given approximate numbers between claims & tests. But by the way, iis it possible for Turbo S to be heavier and less hp and still ne ok par on straight line acceleration?

    I think, a lot will depend on several factors

    1) Advantage of AWD vs RWD up to 100 kmh. It could be 0,3-0,4 secs

    2) PDK Gearing! Very important if 7th gear will be economy one ot not

    3) Tri-turbo VS Twin-Turbo

    4) Maxx revvs  of Turbo S engine and torque band distribution within the revv range

    5) weight

    6) launch control effectiveness

    7) PDK Shift speed

    8) Cx Drag coefficient


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    Turbo with 620ps and PDK also makes 10.5 at the 1/4 mile with trap speed 212kmh/132mph, but it weights about 400lbs more.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQXjDN0wySo

     


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    But the 991 Turbo S stock wont have 620 HP. And our OPC confirmed that it wont reach MP4-12C performance in straight line but will do better on track.


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    On the 1/4 mile i'm pretty sure the turbo S will be ahead 90% of the time. Well, it's normal ~ 50hp more powerful, 200kg lighter car with DCT on RWD to be faster. But after all, we're expecting better PDK with maybe even faster gearshifts, better LC, maybe lighter than its predecessor, better gear ratios, better traction and so on.

    The 997 Turbo S had recorded 1/4 mile time of 10.7 at 129, and the new Turbo S will surely be faster.



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    Nice find!! Tks!! wink


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    Wow! Great find! kisscoolwink


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    Yes, nice ones Alex! This is it.


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    Too bad that it doesn`t have good looking wheels broken heart

    991 Turbo deserves better wheels...


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    Wow!!

    Really like...very amazing!

     

    Thnaks for the find.

     


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    Kreso, with 4 exhaust is turbo or turbo S?


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    I like the rear spoiler:


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    2012 Cayenne S White/Espresso 

    Ex: 993 Targa, 986S, 986 and 964 C2


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    KresoF1:

     

    Yes, nice ones Alex! This is it.

     

     

     

    Kreso...do you know if turbo s will be available right from the beginning? Meaning turbo / turbo s introduced at the same time?

     


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    ale75:

    Kreso, with 4 exhaust is turbo or turbo S?

    Alex, Rhodium Silver one is Turbo S. Rear view mirrors...Smiley

    Exhaust pipes are the same on btoh versions.


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    AFAIK yes.


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    BTW, new 991 Turbo/Turbo S is wqupied with so called Active Aerodynamics as standard-rear spiler goes up and front spoiler(that black part) goes down above 120km/h.


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    KresoF1:

    AFAIK yes.

    Thanks, Kreso.

    Nice easter eggs these days...;-))


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    Front  small lights /blinkers are much better integrated then in the carrera . Good thing !

    And the car is WIDE !! 


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    Gnil:

    Front  small lights /blinkers are much better integrated then in the carrera . Good thing !

    And the car is WIDE !! 

    Exactly!

     


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    like the 991 GT3 more design wise.


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    KresoF1:

    BTW, new 991 Turbo/Turbo S is wqupied with so called Active Aerodynamics as standard-rear spiler goes up and front spoiler(that black part) goes down above 120km/h.

    I would like to see Turbo S))))) very nice pics! Very wide)))


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    KresoF1:

     

    Yes, nice ones Alex! This is it.

     

    hmm a a disguised Cayman behind the turbo , whats the deal ? any info ?Smiley


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    Are the side vents still camo'd?


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    993Targa:

    I like the rear spoiler:

    Ride height reminds me of the 959 Dakar special. Smiley

    I say, drop 40mm and fit 19" wheels!


     
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