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    Official: The New BMW 7 Series









    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

    The design could have been worse

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    MKSGR said:
    The design could have been worse



    Isn't it a shame to say that about a new BMW?

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

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    MKSGR said:
    The design could have been worse



    Yes. But also better, not much of CS concept left.

    Looks a lot like the Lexus LS to me.

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    Rossi said:
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    MKSGR said:
    The design could have been worse



    Isn't it a shame to say that about a new BMW?



    At least you could not have said it about many of their earlier models

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

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    MKSGR said:
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    Rossi said:
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    MKSGR said:
    The design could have been worse



    Isn't it a shame to say that about a new BMW?



    At least you could not have said it about many of their earlier models



    True as well.

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

    On official video which will be online this weekend new 7er looks even better than on pictures. Press pictures (like manny times) don't do justice, 7er is better in video and even better in flesh.



    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

    It looks like a normal BMW of the 2000s, somewhat better looking without any of the provoking styling elements of the previous generation 7 and the 5-series. It will look better in dark colours with larger wheels.

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    zzboba: BMW 8 will be more similar to CS concept..

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    I think the e38, the 740 with the sport pack, was one of the best sedan designs I've ever seen. The new generation was a step back from that and this doesn't help.

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

    Nice...I like it!

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

    What kind of engines does it get?

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

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    zzboba said:
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    MKSGR said:
    The design could have been worse



    Yes. But also better, not much of CS concept left.




    As far as I understood the CS concept will come in a separate model line.

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

    Interior is very unimaginative, steering wheel so ugly, previous generation is miles better.
    Front is very nice, rear so-so, like Lexus LS.

    The one to wait is the production CS..

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

    Thank you Shakal
    The pics you posted are of the LWB version, I think the SWB in a dark color will look better:

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    Crash said:
    What kind of engines does it get?





    730d - 245HP; I6 single-turbo diesel; available in F01 from the beggining, in F02 (Li version) 6 months later
    740i - available in Li version from the beginning
    750i - 407 hp, available in Li version from the beginning

    760i and 730sd (twin turbo diesel) will come about 1 year later.

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

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    Crash said:
    What kind of engines does it get?



    Here's the twin-turbo V8 from the X6:

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

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    zzboba said:
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    MKSGR said:
    The design could have been worse



    Yes. But also better, not much of CS concept left.

    Looks a lot like the Lexus LS to me.



    I think the LS looks better actually... I remember when the Japanese used to copy the Germans...

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

    disgusting

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    temm said:
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    Crash said:
    What kind of engines does it get?



    Here's the twin-turbo V8 from the X6:



    Nice! I wonder how much buyers that engine is going to steal from the 760...

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    amir sarmad said:
    disgusting



    +1

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

    new??

    looks more like a FL to me

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    derder said:
    new??

    looks more like a FL to me




    Its evolution. E65 was revolution. In time when face lifted E65 camed out , design for F01 was already finnished. So face lifted E65 is in the middle between E65 and F01. But F01 is much more elegant and again, pictures doesn't do justice. In promo video new 7er looks much better than on pictures. Promo video is already online, but is hidden, you will be able to see it this weekend.

    Concept CS is too aggressive for car in this range and most people would not like it. BMW 8 will be very similar to CS concept, will be built on same platform as BMW 7 and new RR, and will be in higher range than MB CL.

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    It's interesting to note in the picture of the rear interior seating area that there is an i-drive joystick for controlling the rear entertainment system.

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

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    Shakal said:
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    derder said:
    new??

    looks more like a FL to me




    Its evolution. E65 was revolution. In time when face lifted E65 camed out , design for F01 was already finnished. So face lifted E65 is in the middle between E65 and F01. But F01 is much more elegant and again, pictures doesn't do justice. In promo video new 7er looks much better than on pictures. Promo video is already online, but is hidden, you will be able to see it this weekend.

    Concept CS is too aggressive for car in this range and most people would not like it. BMW 8 will be very similar to CS concept, will be built on same platform as BMW 7 and new RR, and will be in higher range than MB CL.



    Wrong about higher range than CL, the production CS will not cost more than CL. Its engines will be from M3's V8 to M6's V-Ten, whereas CL has twelve cylinders. Besides, BMW cannot sell their cars that costly. It's BMW, not aston martin or Porsche.

    Proof? Does the 7 cost more than a comparable S-class?

    Separated at Birth

    Separated at birth:








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    MattTheCarNut said:
    Separated at birth:











    Damn, you're right.

    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

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    shin said:
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    Shakal said:
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    derder said:
    new??

    looks more like a FL to me




    Its evolution. E65 was revolution. In time when face lifted E65 camed out , design for F01 was already finnished. So face lifted E65 is in the middle between E65 and F01. But F01 is much more elegant and again, pictures doesn't do justice. In promo video new 7er looks much better than on pictures. Promo video is already online, but is hidden, you will be able to see it this weekend.

    Concept CS is too aggressive for car in this range and most people would not like it. BMW 8 will be very similar to CS concept, will be built on same platform as BMW 7 and new RR, and will be in higher range than MB CL.



    Wrong about higher range than CL, the production CS will not cost more than CL. Its engines will be from M3's V8 to M6's V-Ten, whereas CL has twelve cylinders. Besides, BMW cannot sell their cars that costly. It's BMW, not aston martin or Porsche.

    Proof? Does the 7 cost more than a comparable S-class?



    BMW 7 will not be flagship anymore, there will be two cars above - new 8 series and large luxury roadster, Z8. And its too early to talk about the engines, because BMW don't only have M3's / M5's engine, but also works on new engines too True, its not Porsche or Aston Martin, but also Mercedes isn't Porsche or Aston Martin. Friend who is engineer in BMW told me that new 8 series will be based on CS concept, will be in higher range than CL and that will be new BMW's flagship.

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    MattTheCarNut said:
    Separated at birth:











    This is never ending story... then we can say LS is copy of 5 series. I think LS is more similar to E60 than F01 to LS.



    Re: Official: The New BMW 7 Series

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    Shakal said:
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    shin said:
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    Shakal said:
    Quote:
    derder said:
    new??

    looks more like a FL to me




    Its evolution. E65 was revolution. In time when face lifted E65 camed out , design for F01 was already finnished. So face lifted E65 is in the middle between E65 and F01. But F01 is much more elegant and again, pictures doesn't do justice. In promo video new 7er looks much better than on pictures. Promo video is already online, but is hidden, you will be able to see it this weekend.

    Concept CS is too aggressive for car in this range and most people would not like it. BMW 8 will be very similar to CS concept, will be built on same platform as BMW 7 and new RR, and will be in higher range than MB CL.



    Wrong about higher range than CL, the production CS will not cost more than CL. Its engines will be from M3's V8 to M6's V-Ten, whereas CL has twelve cylinders. Besides, BMW cannot sell their cars that costly. It's BMW, not aston martin or Porsche.

    Proof? Does the 7 cost more than a comparable S-class?



    BMW 7 will not be flagship anymore, there will be two cars above - new 8 series and large luxury roadster, Z8. And its too early to talk about the engines, because BMW don't only have M3's / M5's engine, but also works on new engines too True, its not Porsche or Aston Martin, but also Mercedes isn't Porsche or Aston Martin. Friend who is engineer in BMW told me that new 8 series will be based on CS concept, will be in higher range than CL and that will be new BMW's flagship.



    It's no industry secret, BMW has announced they will build the CS. and I read GermanCarFans forums too. a BMW engineer says so does not mean it will be properly so, it's called bias.

    The reason BMW building the CS is because of the CLS, they originally were going to build their 4-door coupe based on the next gen 6-series, but they decided they do not want to compete in the same price segment, so they moved it up to above the 7-series, which is the exactly same price segment as the CL is to the S-class. Check out how much a CL cost these days and you'll figure out that BMW cannot sell their new '8' more than that.

    Look, I'm more a BMW fan than Mercedes, but I'm well aware that not only BMW is not aston or Porcshe, it is not even Mercedes when it comes to pricing their cars. Check BMW vs Merc prices for comparable models, there's a reason to why it is what it is.

    The new '8' or production CS cannot cost more than the aston Rapide. It will cost similar to higher-end Panamera or lower end CL. as for CL65 amg, it will go head-to-head with the coupe version of RR04 from BMW Group. Not the 8, which is below it.

     
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