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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    What would a hybrid powertrain would add to this car? It doesn't really need more torque and sure can use the lighter weight...


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Unreal digits for the road car. Even LMP1 and F1 cars are unable to accelerate 200-300 faster than 0-200...


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    That's true, but race cars have tons of drag.  Doesn't make it any less impressive though.


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Wonderbar:

     I will be at the press debut tomorrow and will post impressions and pics. I know at least one person who has already put down a deposit on this fantastic machine. Not to everyone's taste, but certainly a fabulous automotive creation.


    Wonderbar,

    what have your impressions been of that car? I personally find it to be quite astonishing, far more iconic than the Veyron initially was apart from its ridiculous performance and technical numbers. I also believe that the car is far more competent than the predecessor.

    I heard from a friend who knows a friend who knows a friend... that there are quite a lot of pre-orders signed at the private viewings that were held for selected customers already. Considering the public reception I believe there will be additional orders from people that have not bought a Bugatti before.


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Very original and with good taste. Love the interior for such a car, very appropiate. The car is class.


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Carlos from Spain:

    Very original and with good taste. Love the interior for such a car, very appropiate. The car is class.

    +1

    they got it right Smiley


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Carlos from Spain:

    Very original and with good taste. Love the interior for such a car, very appropiate. The car is class.

     

    Interesting enough, the responsible exterior designer did the Veyron Super Sport as well. 


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    Carlos from Spain:

    Very original and with good taste. Love the interior for such a car, very appropiate. The car is class.

    Smiley I do not agree with the price tag though. Smiley


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Saw it on the stand at Geneva today.. Beautiful...


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    DaveGordon:

    Saw it on the stand at Geneva today.. Beautiful...

    +1 Smiley


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    bluelines:
    DaveGordon:

    Saw it on the stand at Geneva today.. Beautiful...

    +1 Smiley

    ,+1 Am amazingly unique deseign. Very impressive. 


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Bugatti Chiron to have eight-year lifespan, sell at a profit

    http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1102673_bugatti-chiron-to-have-eight-year-lifespan-sell-at-a-profit


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Does anyone know any background on why the Galibier got canned?


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    DaveGordon:

    Does anyone know any background on why the Galibier got canned?

    Apparently, "There are many contradictory reports as to the reasoning for the axing of the Galibier."   Smiley

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_16C_Galibier

    I suspect that one of them was the fear that it would not be much less unprofitable than the Veyron.  Smiley


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Bugatti should build a SUV with 1000 hp. Such a car would even be profitable because they could use the current Q7 platform as a basis. If people are willing to pay over 230k for the Bentley, I am pretty sure there would be enough customers for a 500k Bugatti Mamba.  indecision


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    4 Bugatti Chirons Spotted On The Road http://thesupercarkids.com/4-bugatti-chirons-spotted-on-the-road/

     

     

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    DaveGordon:

    Does anyone know any background on why the Galibier got canned?

     

    Four-door Bugatti still a possibility  http://www.worldcarfans.com/1160305104828/four-door-bugatti-still-a-possibility?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&ut...


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Just coming back from Geneva. Kids wanted to go so Saturday was the only option. There were a lot of people everywhere but no car came close to attracting people like the Chiron. I think it looks great, inside and out. 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Am I the only one who thinks that the Chiron is just a facelift of the Veyron? Same engine, same chassis and it weights 2 tons! I've always been a big fan of the Veyron but in 2016 it's a dinosaur. Of course it will be profitable. The R&D and retooling efforts are minimal.

    The Veyron used to be an engineering masterpiece even if it wasn't an elegant concept. Originally priced at EUR 1M it even was reasonable for what it offered. The Chiron is an example of extreme excess and irrationality for the bored, "easy-made" billionaires.


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    Herbaliser:

    Am I the only one who thinks that the Chiron is just a facelift of the Veyron? Same engine, same chassis and it weights 2 tons! I've always been a big fan of the Veyron but in 2016 it's a dinosaur. Of course it will be profitable. The R&D and retooling efforts are minimal.

    The Veyron used to be an engineering masterpiece even if it wasn't an elegant concept. Originally priced at EUR 1M it even was reasonable for what it offered. The Chiron is an example of extreme excess and irrationality for the bored, "easy-made" billionaires.

    I think it is more than a facelift. Other brands are not doing better. Check the 997 towards the 991 Porsche - evolution is going smaller steps.

    Until now they never made money out of the Veyron sale (thats what VW claims). The original price of 1M was pretty steep those days but reading that the new one costs almost 3 times as much makes you wonder what this should be? I completely agree - this development of prices and availability of Ueber-Luxury articles is just show casing how insane some percentage of the population went.

    While more and more people are hardly being able to afford a new VW Passat, there is a huge demand for those super luxury cars. Same with any other luxury article - watches, hand bags, etc. Apropos hand-bags - 10 years ago I bought my wife hand bags for 500 to 1200 Euro. Today serious bags are around 3000 to 5000,- €. And yes - Hermes went from 3000 (10 years ago) to 15000.... some limited editions even north of it. Luxury never dies and the more expensive and harder to afford the more wanted it is. 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Cartier raises prices about 10% a year...

    Classic Hermes bags are too cheap, you can't buy one...


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    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    The Shmee150 video on youtube has a good walk around of the car with really nice angles and a look at details. I recomend giving that a look. 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Enmanuel:

    The Shmee150 video on youtube has a good walk around of the car with really nice angles and a look at details. I recomend giving that a look. 

    Why notpost the link?


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Nice door handles...


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Herbaliser:

    Am I the only one who thinks that the Chiron is just a facelift of the Veyron? Same engine, same chassis and it weights 2 tons! I've always been a big fan of the Veyron but in 2016 it's a dinosaur. Of course it will be profitable. The R&D and retooling efforts are minimal.


    Well,

    how do you know that the Chiron is only a facelift and uses the same chassis and technology? 


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    SciFrog:

    Cartier raises prices about 10% a year...



    Classic Hermes bags are too cheap, you can't buy one...





    With my company having been contracted to supply compressors and radiators for the new Chiron, I would like to weigh in on this subject guys.... The Chiron is far from being just a facelifted Veyron... The aero, package, the monocoque, the body (all carbon fiber now, whereas the old one was carbon fiber plus aluminum), the more advanced transmission and the e-turbo valves are all new

    As for the luxury getting pricier every year, this is true on all accounts.. I mean, a Ferrari 355 sold for around 100K in the 90's,while the current 488 GTB sells for around 230k at least, if not more

    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    Facelift or not, the car looks incredible !!


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

     

    Quick question btw, does anyone know if those air slats on the CF door trim are plastic/metal/carbon-fiber (The one visible on the top left corner, right by the window)?

     

    Knowing Bugatti and their obsessive attention to details, you would have to kill them before convincing them to apply any plastics (not to mention the press conference said "0" plastics on the car, inside and out), but wasn't sure so I just wanted to check...Thx


    Re: Bugatti Chiron

    The buttons look plastic...


     
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