Crown

Board: Porsche - 911 - 997 - Turbo Language: English Region: Worldwide Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    My dealer called me when their first turbo came in - I wanted to sit in the adaptive sport seat yesterday, to check it out. It's great. But, interestingly the arrangement with this first car and the prospective owner allowed the dealership to use if for test drives. Before I arrived, a test driver put it into a guard rail - apparently he lifted at a wrong moment.

    Coming off a 500hp 993tt and 8-10k miles at the track, I'm probably fine driving this car but, honestly, I'm excited it's a bit dangerous. And...um, I'll be certain to request no one "test" MY car when it arrives....

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    Quote:
    Charlie997tt said:
    My dealer called me when their first turbo came in - I wanted to sit in the adaptive sport seat yesterday, to check it out. It's great. But, interestingly the arrangement with this first car and the prospective owner allowed the dealership to use if for test drives. Before I arrived, a test driver put it into a guard rail - apparently he lifted at a wrong moment.

    Coming off a 500hp 993tt and 8-10k miles at the track, I'm probably fine driving this car but, honestly, I'm excited it's a bit dangerous....



    Charlie,

    Perhaps you should wait for a test drive of the 997GT2.

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    Ouch. That sucks. Hopefully the guy hadn't already paid for the car.

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    The damage was just a big rear bumper scrape - amazingly the fender was completely spared. Owner apparently was ok with taking it after repair.

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    As far as I know, the prospective buyer hasn't paid for the car in full yet but rather he left a deposit. It's a shame though. I had a chance to drive this particular car before the incident happened. It's rather minor from what I hear. Were you able to see the damages that they were talking about?

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    Looks like I spoke too soon. Made the post before you posted, Charlie. We'll have to compare notes. Mine is an October build, when is yours?

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    Quote:
    Charlie997tt said:
    The damage was just a big rear bumper scrape - amazingly the fender was completely spared. Owner apparently was ok with taking it after repair.



    So would you call that a "Barrier" moment?

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    That was funny, Jim. Good pun.

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    Barrier moment. That IS a good one.

    Just a bumper scrape, very close to the fender. I didn't look at it very hard - everybody was embarrassed enough without My gawking. Certainly wasn't a big deal. Merely an interesting story about the car being a handful for the inexperienced.

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    I don't even HAVE a build date, I'm SO far down the list...


    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    Quote:
    Charlie997tt said:
    The damage was just a big rear bumper scrape - amazingly the fender was completely spared. Owner apparently was ok with taking it after repair.



    I warned people before and I do it again: the 997 Turbo is extremely fast but it can put you in a coffin pretty fast too and I'm not exaggerating. It is faster than the old 996 Turbo but not as forgiving, especially with Sport Chrono ON.
    And whoever tells me that this is BS, a little hint: dude, you don't know how to drive at the limit, you just think you're fast.

    So again, guys: take it easy at the beginning, get used to the car. If you're a sporty driver anyway and you're used to high power supersportscars like the 993 Turbo, etc., leave Sport Chrono ON from the start to get used to it. Driving with Sport Chrono OFF is much less of a challenge, it should only be done by people who want to make sure they don't crash the car after the first couple of miles.

    This has nothing to do with "I'm a real man, I have to drive Sport Chrono ON" stuff, I'm serious, keep it easy at the beginning and get used to the car. It can be so much fun and extremely fast but at the limt, you better know what you're doing.

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    Quote:
    RC said:
    Quote:
    Charlie997tt said:
    The damage was just a big rear bumper scrape - amazingly the fender was completely spared. Owner apparently was ok with taking it after repair.



    I warned people before and I do it again: the 997 Turbo is extremely fast but it can put you in a coffin pretty fast too and I'm not exaggerating. It is faster than the old 996 Turbo but not as forgiving, especially with Sport Chrono ON.
    And whoever tells me that this is BS, a little hint: dude, you don't know how to drive at the limit, you just think you're fast.

    So again, guys: take it easy at the beginning, get used to the car. If you're a sporty driver anyway and you're used to high power supersportscars like the 993 Turbo, etc., leave Sport Chrono ON from the start to get used to it. Driving with Sport Chrono OFF is much less of a challenge, it should only be done by people who want to make sure they don't crash the car after the first couple of miles.

    This has nothing to do with "I'm a real man, I have to drive Sport Chrono ON" stuff, I'm serious, keep it easy at the beginning and get used to the car. It can be so much fun and extremely fast but at the limt, you better know what you're doing.



    Good point. I'll tell you what: Let me drive your car with Sport Chrono ON and if I crash it, I'll buy you a beer and admit that I'm not a manly man .

    To stop joking, how about making some videos of the beast, so we can see how this thing performs?

    Re: Interesting note on 997tt driving dynamics

    The more you guys write about this stuff, the harder and longer the wait until Intercity arrives with my car sometime next week... minutes feel like hours, hours like days and a full week feels like a year.

    With all the controversy from the Ferrari, Gallardo and Z06 folks being thrown at the 997TT forum constantly, at least I know the car is a true contender. Being compared to these cars can't be all bad.

    I am excited about this car!

    Was PSM off?

    Quote:
    Charlie997tt said: ... Before I arrived, a test driver put it into a guard rail - apparently he lifted at a wrong moment.



    I understand that if the tester turned PSM off.

    Did this fellow switch PSM off? With PSM on, lifting should not cause oversteer, unless this was total wreckless driving. Can you find out more? It is important to understand this car's real driving dynamics.

    P.S. - I would never enter into a new car deal and allow test driving. Insane!

    Re: Was PSM off?

    I doubt the driver messed with PSM. And the knowledge came to me hours after it happened, maybe 2nd or 3rd hand. Who knows....

    I won't be turning it off.....ever! Heehee. A man's GOT to know his limitations.

     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky The moment I've been waiting for... 5/18/22 6:36 PM
    Pilot
     
     
     
     
     
    572950 1306
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020) 4/23/22 1:43 PM
    Rossi
    222162 1179
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part II) 5/22/22 5:17 PM
    nberry
    111758 978
    Porsche Sticky Welcome to Rennteam: Cars and Coffee... (photos) 4/1/22 7:14 AM
    Boxster Coupe GTS
    108066 405
    Porsche Sticky Porsche Taycan Turbo S - Short Review 1/3/22 7:55 AM
    Rossi
    89295 531
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Cayman GT4 RS (2021) 1/15/22 10:41 PM
    watt
    31407 1
    Porsche Cayman GT4 10/5/21 7:04 PM
    Topspeed
    511748 3587
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017) 9/28/21 3:25 AM
    WhoopsyM
    427200 3507
    McLaren McLaren on a winning streak 2/1/22 10:14 PM
    SSO.
    424085 3954
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018) 11/17/21 5:18 PM
    Rossi
    387736 3256
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016) 2/1/22 9:49 AM
    RCA
    364586 2655
    Porsche 992 GT3 5/22/22 5:56 PM
    Moser
    347230 3543
    Porsche OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car 9/29/21 1:59 AM
    watt
    289383 1587
    Porsche Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design 2/10/22 9:08 PM
    Topspeed
    137450 772
    Porsche Welcome to the new Taycan Forum! 4/25/22 7:26 PM
    bluelines
    134645 1388
    McLaren F1 7/10/21 7:43 AM
    BiTurbo
    110721 209
    AMG AMG GT R 3/13/22 8:52 PM
    spudgun
    109694 834
    Lambo Aventador and SV 5/20/22 5:24 PM
    Topspeed
    107469 710
    Others Tesla 2 the new thread 5/19/22 5:11 PM
    Leawood911
    92527 1644
    Porsche GT4RS 5/20/22 8:12 AM
    d997h
    83701 938
    Motor Sp. [2021] Formula 1 4/19/22 10:08 PM
    Leawood911
    75817 1590
    Others Bugatti Chiron 4/12/22 9:24 PM
    blueflame
    74759 520
    Ferrari Ferrari 812 Superfast 12/15/21 8:04 PM
    Topspeed
    70145 533
    BMW M BMW M2 Rumors 2/28/22 7:42 PM
    Topspeed
    61624 409
    Porsche Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour 4/4/22 7:10 AM
    GnilM
    54504 472
    Porsche Dave and Gnil @ Nürburgring Nordschleife 5/19/22 11:01 PM
    Grant
    53944 721
    Lambo Urus (SUV) 7/21/21 6:22 PM
    Topspeed
    53931 592
    Others Corvette C8 11/8/21 8:04 PM
    Topspeed
    49802 442
    Others Toyota Yaris GR 4/13/22 8:33 PM
    Grant
    26512 640
    AMG AMG plotting new SLR with hybrid power for 2018 launch 2/22/22 2:34 PM
    Topspeed
    24150 275
    225 items found, displaying 1 to 30.