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    991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    After having now the first 600 miles on my 991s Coupe PDK I feel a bit disappointed from the Sport Exhaust compared to the infernal sound of my 997s Convertible. Pressing Sport/+/Exhaust-Buttons does make it a bit louder but it’s not that breath-taking - beside the awesome down-shifts. Also – in city cruising you don’t hear much at all except you are driving in the first gear. I already took the inside covers off to check if there is a hose from the sound symposer as I can’t hear that much.

    Questions:

    • Does the car still mute down on city speeds and how to bridge that?
    • How loud is your car inside when pressing one of the joy-buttons - can you notice the sound symposer at all (I can’t)

    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    I have standard exhaust - symposer is great in Sport and SportPlus modes. I couldn't see the point in getting SE in coupe when I tested them both.


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    991 (what a car!) XC90 - Black/Black 2 kids, 1 dog


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Lars, we cannot hear your exhaust, but let us see some nice pictures of your car. The colour looks interesting and not common for a 911.


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    reginos:

    Lars, we cannot hear your exhaust, but let us see some nice pictures of your car. The colour looks interesting and not common for a 911.

    Enjoy 

    Smiley

     


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    HI Reginos, certainly - I will send some shots - but.... I first have to do some - I'm so bad with taking pictures angry

    And.... as long that thing sounds like a Fiat Punto I dont like to take it out for taking pictures smiley


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Could it be that there something wrong with the exhaust on your car? Like the valves not  fully opening, or similar?

    Has the PZ had an inspection?


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    I feel the same way too, not impressed with the PSE, will look at other options.....


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Congrats. Smiley

    The PSE on my dealer's loaner was infernally loud and didn't cut off sound at any speed. When I'm back home, I am going to ask him what they did to it to sound that loud. Car was brandnew.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Sept. 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Well...

    In normal mode, windows closed, if you push the sport button, the difference is not huge when the car is still. When you drive it though, there is a very clear difference.

    Now push the Sport button, and even when the car is still there is a big difference (800 rpms instead of 650 rpms), and then when you drive, as soon as you accelerate hard, the sound is insane and very loud.


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    BangoO, what is latest with your Power Steering Plus problem?


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Guys - I will check tomorrow with my Porsche Dealer - I guess the valve is not working properly. 

     

     


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    I thought it wasn't normal.

    Once it is fixed let us have the pictures, please kiss


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    I swore I will send pictures soon as soon that thing plays some music :)


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Lars you should change your nickname to Lars991 now smiley


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    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Hi Lars, ddin´t know you had bought a 991S, CONGRATS Smiley Smiley Is it a cab too? Tell usmore about the specs. I wish you many pleasure miles with it my friend.

    J.Seven


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Thank you everybody for the wishes! As I probably will not make any good pictures soon I added some in this thread from the car delivery:

    http://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread/20654071/New_991_in_the_house/page1.html?vs=10&scrollmode=POST#PostDetailsTitlePortlet

     

     


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Dealer must've left some potatoes in the exhaust tips ? angryindecision

     


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Just come back from the dealer. He says everything is ok, thats how loud the 991 should sound. He also said, he is disappointed himself, it clearly sounds less emotional than the 997!

    If driving the car hard it has sound, but cruising through the city in the second gear and 3000rpm it kind is not noticable. Best part - PDK downshifts in Sport mode - but I cant drive always like an idiot around and up-/down shift permanently....

    .... still not sure why some people say their car is insane loud. Maybe its the Convertible which is noticable louder. The test car I had last year was a non-S convertible without Sport Exhaust and it gave me headache in Sports-Mode!


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    But since the Symposer is working, isn't this what you get to hear most from the inside?

    Three solutions:

    1. Get an after-market exhaust
    2. Remove some insulation from the cabin indecision
    3. Forget about it and enjoy the rest of the experience.

    wink


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Hi Reginos,

    as I said - dealer says symposer works, being honest I dont feel any difference in the inside if I press or not press my button. If I open my windows I have some sound, nothing compared to the 997.

    My solution.... just start listening radio again, didnt do for a long time in a Porsche  smiley


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Have in mind that the exhaust sound increases with mileage.  The metal has to be "burned" before the full sound is set. Give it a bit more kilometers.


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Lars997:

    Hi Reginos,

    as I said - dealer says symposer works, being honest I dont feel any difference in the inside if I press or not press my button. If I open my windows I have some sound, nothing compared to the 997.

     

    the sports exaust in the 997.1  had a fantastic metallic , hard core sound . It got lost already with the 997.2 , due probably to the DFY and to please the noise controls .

    You have been spoiled for so long , not even knowing about it .


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     997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

     

    Hi!

    Since a few weeks there is a PDK update available which makes the car quieter : ... maybe this PDK update is already installed at your car ! mail

    To some customers Porsche is telling that the update is necessary because the car was too loud due legal requirements ... to others they communicate that the update includes an error ( they didn´t want reduce the sound ) and they will release a new update soon yes

     

    Cheers

    Gregor

     

    P.S.: By the way : Porsche dealers must (!) install this update even without asking the customer  Smiley ... and this is confirmed

     

    Edit : Maybe RC knows more .... 


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    991 C4S * BMW X6 4.0d


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Hi Gregor,

    thanks for the information! My car was sitting some days in the show-room and got all updates just ahead of delivery (even a new 3.32 PCM update just released some days ahead). So if this is true I could explain why it is soooo bad regarding noise!

    I talked to Carnewal (http://www.carnewal-europe.com/) - Gert told me he would offer an extra valve for the exhaust and a remote to switch it complely on and off (always on/off - depending on remote). Before I will get the remote I probably will install a fake valve and check how the sound is then - if I like it I will install the remote for switching on/off.

    Thanks - Lars

    ... otherwise - thinking of exchanging the PSE with something aftermarket!


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Then what's the purpose of offering an exhaust button ? is porsche trying to compete with toyota's hybrid car the prius ?


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Here you go Lars

     

     


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    GOSHHHH angelangelangelangelangel

    I WAAAAANT THAT!

    Thanks for the Link!

     


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Sidney:
    Since a few weeks there is a PDK update available which makes the car quieter : ... maybe this PDK update is already installed at your car ! mail

    That's BS, I did the upgrade and the sound is exactly the same, and it is LOUD in Sport mode.


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    Also had the update and my car is still very loud and still popping and crackling in Sport and Sport + mode.   Maybe it's geo specific?


    Re: 991 Sport exhaust - disappointed

    BangoO:
    Sidney:
    Since a few weeks there is a PDK update available which makes the car quieter : ... maybe this PDK update is already installed at your car ! mail

    That's BS, I did the upgrade and the sound is exactly the same, and it is LOUD in Sport mode.

     

    @Bango:

     

    I never would comment a post as BS ..... only persons of bad breeding would do that Smiley

     

    Be happy that you hear no difference .... others do ... and those are closer to Zuffenhausen than you Smiley

     

    Best

    Gregor 


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    991 C4S * BMW X6 4.0d


     
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