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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    More importantly I wanna know if Nick secured two cars now or not indecision


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    I found it very sad of how Porsche handelled the 911R saga - specially now that I know that a former formula 1 ( lousy B-Driver in the back of the grid ) got a allocation despite not having purchased a single car with the dealer...

    I personally don't care about the car since the same gear-box will appear-again in a better Chassis....


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    BjoernB:

    I found it very sad of how Porsche handelled the 911R saga - specially now that I know that a former formula 1 ( lousy B-Driver in the back of the grid ) got a allocation despite not having purchased a single car with the dealer...

    I personally don't care about the car since the same gear-box will appear-again in a better Chassis....

    +1

    That is exactly why I don't see the drama in the R.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    That's not the point, there is always a better newer car around... Anyway I hate limited production cars. I think they are a slap in the face of the customers. To be more precise, what I hate is sold out limited production, everyone should have a chance to buy the product in the first and/or only batch of production.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    The only way possible for a manual to fail = driver error, unless, they have switched to a different brand that cost them 1/2 what they used to pay for the previous GT models. (Typical Porsche Strategy) angry

     


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    SciFrog:

    Anyway I hate limited production cars.

    I agree with you if I don't get one.Smiley

    But I love myself very much now as I have 2 very limited production 911.Smiley


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    bluelines:
    BjoernB:

    I found it very sad of how Porsche handelled the 911R saga - specially now that I know that a former formula 1 ( lousy B-Driver in the back of the grid ) got a allocation despite not having purchased a single car with the dealer...

    I personally don't care about the car since the same gear-box will appear-again in a better Chassis....

    +1

    That is exactly why I don't see the drama in the R.

    Who is the former Formula 1 driver that got the allocation?


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    2013 Porsche 911 [991.1] Carrera S (GT Silver)
    2014 Porsche 911 [991.1] GT3 (Agate Grey
     
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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    Mark Webber? 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    He is not a formula 1 driver, but Henri Pescarolo got one in France.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    Cazooch:

    Mark Webber? 

    Yep,,, he is a heavy P lover, They would look after him. Our Reading OPC look after him, so I am told..


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    throt

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    Would the R be getting the attention if it was an unlimited production car? Which leads to another question. Why make it unlimited if the interest to purchase the car is unlimited? Is Porsche afraid that it would take orders away from exiting models? I have to assume that the R has a good mark up probably more than the regular 911 models. So why not sell it at a steep profit and lose business on the less profitable models?

     


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    We'll see next month, June 8th when the embargo is lifted... From what I hear the way it changes direction begs belief...


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    A wingless GT3RS with manual tranny? you bet your sweet bottom it would get attention. Its dipping the toes on concept of 911 that we haven't seen in a long while and its success opens up a future line of 911's for a particular customer.

    Limited production adds some interest, but only some, there are many limited productions of 911 that get no attention because they are part's bin specials. The attention this car is getting resides in the re-appearance of the manual tranny on a GT car which was thought to be gone forever, and the posibility of a GT car for street use without all the wing drama.

    They probably made it limited prodcution because they were testing the waters with this concept, don't think they could have produced many more even if they wanted to either and its also a way to make 918 owners more happy since they got first dibs.


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    I really don't understand the MT demand. That may be Porsche's concern and why it is not put into mass production.

    Today I saw a Dodge ACR with the big wing on the road. The license plate read:

    LOL GT3


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    Cazooch:

    We'll see next month, June 8th when the embargo is lifted... From what I hear the way it changes direction begs belief...

    What are you talking about ? 


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    rickman:
    Cazooch:

    We'll see next month, June 8th when the embargo is lifted... From what I hear the way it changes direction begs belief...

    What are you talking about ? 

    I guess that is when the reviews are published...


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    nberry:

    I really don't understand the MT demand. That may be Porsche's concern and why it is not put into mass production.

    Today I saw a Dodge ACR with the big wing on the road. The license plate read:

    LOL GT3

    Funny Smiley

    I'm glad it wasn't LOL GT3RS


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    Kobalt:
    nberry:

    I really don't understand the MT demand. That may be Porsche's concern and why it is not put into mass production.

    Today I saw a Dodge ACR with the big wing on the road. The license plate read:

    LOL GT3

    Funny Smiley

    I'm glad it wasn't LOL GT3RS

    Too many letters.Smiley

    The message is the same.Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    Cazooch:

    We'll see next month, June 8th when the embargo is lifted... From what I hear the way it changes direction begs belief...

    The R? Why would it be much different from a GT3/RS? Other than a marginal weight improvement..


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    Completely different configuration for the RWS, Steering and shock compression / rebound differences... Feels extremely agile even up against the 4.0 RS...


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    Cazooch:

    Completely different configuration for the RWS, Steering and shock compression / rebound differences... Feels extremely agile even up against the 4.0 RS...

    That makes it sound as if it is almost as agile as the 4.0 RS at best, which isn't quite as euphoric a claim as I would have expected from the earlier statement "the way it changes direction begs belief..."?   Smiley


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    As agile as the GT4, in AP's own words indecision


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    I also heard that the rear steering's tuning is pretty aggressive.  Hoping some of that makes it to the 991.2 GT3...


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    When reviewers say a new car does something unbelievably better, it usually means the new car does it 2.874% better, or something no one would ever noticed compared to a similar car.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    nberry:

    Would the R be getting the attention if it was an unlimited production car? Which leads to another question. Why make it unlimited if the interest to purchase the car is unlimited? Is Porsche afraid that it would take orders away from exiting models? I have to assume that the R has a good mark up probably more than the regular 911 models. So why not sell it at a steep profit and lose business on the less profitable models?

     


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    Of little, to make much: That is the dream of a human life.

     

    After seeing the R in the flesh, I think it is simply the most stunning 911 model in two decades in white with red stripes. I would almost have bought one on the spot. It represents everything the 911 should be and reflects the simplicity and passion that made most of us dream when we were kids. The regular and turbo 991 are too elegant, and the GTx version are ricer cars compared to the R. Of course the MT is a big minus but it is still a stunning car.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    I've not driven the car yet and just relaying what I read on an magazine editors Instagram after he drive it at the press weekend in Scotland before Porsche told him to take down his posts... His comparison to the RS was interesting...


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    bluelines:

    As agile as the GT4, in AP's own words indecision

    Wasn't it   "Almost as agile as the GT4"


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    there you go  truth restored


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    Just a reflection

    I'm been driving my RS for about 3000 km on track now - I'm still not used to it.
    I'm not a professional driver of course nor a professional car journalist. I'm just a regular Joe.
    Maybe I'm a guy who adapts slow.

    With this in mind I can not understand how a journalist after driving a car for a couple of hours can figure out how good or bad the car really is.
    I suspect that the information provided by the manufacturer counts for a big part of what the journalist writes.

    What do you think?

     

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016)

    I would tend to agree if the journalists at question weren't offered on the weekend access back to back drives with a 4.0RS 991, 3.8 GT3 RS Gen 2 997 and 911R. Jumping in and out of these back to back will surely show the differences clearer rather than spending lots of time with just one car... Also, these journos do spend a lot of time with the products, take them to tracks to push them for their YouTube videos etc. I give them credibility for sure.


     
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