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    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    bluelines:
    SuzyF:

    I prefer the more clean look, especially with the C4S, because of the light strip. No sunroof, no wing or ducktail. Just the clean shape of the 991.

    Like this one? Smiley

    1408795759518DSC_1238.jpg

    Exactly! Smiley


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    2013 Porsche Boxster S (MT) | Basalt black metallic    [SOLD]
    2014 Audi A6 Avant 3.0 BiTDI Quattro | Moonshine blue metallic
     


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    SuzyF:
    When I was looking for a C4S, mine came also up to about CHF 230k, but that was with all the options I wanted, including for example, leather to sample and paint to sample. Still a rediculous price though... 

    That suggests to me that there are already lots of 991s running around that cost about this amount; just that the owners will never admit what their options added up to.  (or what hit they will take upon resale)

    But seriously, I believe that one of the appealing aspects of the factory "parts specials" is simply that most people (RT members excluded, mostly Smiley)  have serious difficulty in choosing tastefully coordinated, and sensibly matched, options among a huge and confusing option list such as Porsche offer.  It is simply overwhelming to this mostly male purchasing group, who struggle to get dressed each morning without committing serious fashion faux pas.  The factory specials are "pre-approved" by people who know the PAG option list and who presumably have chosen well and tastefully - yes they are expensive, but less so than a new Porsche that I have screwed up the options on.    

    In fact, there might be a market for a "taste consultant" who could, for a small fee (first 4000 km driving??) assemble unique but tasteful option packages for would-be Porsche buyers, who are among the overwhelmed (males) who could commit serious errors.  Golly, we don't know of anyone on RT who is known to be skilled at options and selection in PAG products, do we??  Smiley  (moi?  she says.... Smiley


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    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    4trac:
    SuzyF:
    When I was looking for a C4S, mine came also up to about CHF 230k, but that was with all the options I wanted, including for example, leather to sample and paint to sample. Still a rediculous price though... 

    That suggests to me that there are already lots of 991s running around that cost about this amount; just that the owners will never admit what their options added up to.  (or what hit they will take upon resale)

    Mine was exactly CHF 200k new and it has lot's of intriguing aluminium and painted Exclusive Dept options. I did get a (very) nice discount since it was a showroom car. Considering the C4S performance combined with the all-year-round every-day usability I don't think the price was too much. Yes, I will take a hit on the depreciation, but so will most car owners and frankly I don't see a single competitor (read alternative) in the market. It is the ultimate compromise Smiley

    The only thing I would change is the brushed aluminium parts. Nice and all, but does not fit the other interior parts, especially not the shiny aluminium and metal. I would have chosen carbon fibre on the dash, center console and doors instead. The rest is all to my liking, even the adaptive cruise control. THE grandpa option Smiley

     


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE

    2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    bluelines:
    SuzyF:

    I prefer the more clean look, especially with the C4S, because of the light strip. No sunroof, no wing or ducktail. Just the clean shape of the 991.

    Like this one? Smiley

    1408795759518DSC_1238.jpg

    Gosh your 911 is pretty! laugh


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    Itsme:

    Awesome color!  But I prefer black wheels.

     

    SmileySmiley


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    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    SuzyF:
    Lars997:

    Car looks stunning.

    But - why would I buy this for that price? This is more than insane!

    Also - if you have that swiss flag on it, the car might only be desirable in Switzerland - your resell market is shrinking badly!

    Why would someone in Switzerland sell his or her car outside Switzerland? Smiley

    I can understand that with classic/rare cars, but a modern car as well?

    I was living 10 yrs in Zurich and sold most of my cars outside. Much larger market than that tiny island of Switzerland in the middle of Europe.


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    Lars997:
    SuzyF:
    Lars997:

    Car looks stunning.

    But - why would I buy this for that price? This is more than insane!

    Also - if you have that swiss flag on it, the car might only be desirable in Switzerland - your resell market is shrinking badly!

    Why would someone in Switzerland sell his or her car outside Switzerland? Smiley

    I can understand that with classic/rare cars, but a modern car as well?

    I was living 10 yrs in Zurich and sold most of my cars outside. Much larger market than that tiny island of Switzerland in the middle of Europe.

    Mmm... Okay, that's true of course. But isn't that a lot of paperwork (for the buyer)? I'm not sure if I would want to buy a car outside my home country, unless it's something very specific like an oldtimer or so....

    But I only sold one carprivatly so far.  All the rest I traded in, which I always prefer because it's more convenient.


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    2013 Porsche Boxster S (MT) | Basalt black metallic    [SOLD]
    2014 Audi A6 Avant 3.0 BiTDI Quattro | Moonshine blue metallic
     


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    I exported a BMW two years ago from CH to the Netherlands (friend of mine) and it is a nightmare, I can tell you.


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    2012 Cayenne S White/Espresso 

    Ex: 993 Targa, 986S, 986 and 964 C2


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    I see that bluelines and Gnil have not posted today - so, where are they... ??? indecision ... No 1 - gone, no 2 - gone, and 12 to go...smiley

    I think Porsche should skip these special editions - I mean, how shall I recognize the Swiss edition: "Hey dude, would you kindly open your door and let me see whether you have the special Swiss edition on board ?". Then they should simply offer these "comfort packages", which P. in Germany does already for the 991 and this should do.


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    SuzyF:
    Lars997:
    SuzyF:
    Lars997:

    Car looks stunning.

    But - why would I buy this for that price? This is more than insane!

    Also - if you have that swiss flag on it, the car might only be desirable in Switzerland - your resell market is shrinking badly!

    Why would someone in Switzerland sell his or her car outside Switzerland? Smiley

    I can understand that with classic/rare cars, but a modern car as well?

    I was living 10 yrs in Zurich and sold most of my cars outside. Much larger market than that tiny island of Switzerland in the middle of Europe.

    Mmm... Okay, that's true of course. But isn't that a lot of paperwork (for the buyer)? I'm not sure if I would want to buy a car outside my home country, unless it's something very specific like an oldtimer or so....

    But I only sold one carprivatly so far.  All the rest I traded in, which I always prefer because it's more convenient.

    Exactly thats the point - most Swiss people trade in because of weak re-sell market. If you want to have 20% more for your car (and that was what I experienced, also considering the rebate on the new one when you don't trade in) you have to sell it yourself. 

    Most luxury cars are going to be traded to east Europe - hard to sell expensive cars within Germany, France, etc. So - you need to have Export papers anyway - which is kind of easy and not a lot of paperwork at all. Takes you less than 30 minutes.

    Actually - the Brits have a similar problem but even a bigger one. Due to the right hand steering the market is extremely small. The complete Export market is limited to overseas which makes it much more difficult.

     


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    I´ve already bought many cars in Germany and took me 1h hour to have the papers ready for export. When I bought my old 996, I arrived in Munich at 9h, at 1PM I had saw the car, made the test drive and treat the papers. By 4PM I was on my way to Portugal again.


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    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    pxaxh:
    bluelines:
    SuzyF:

    I prefer the more clean look, especially with the C4S, because of the light strip. No sunroof, no wing or ducktail. Just the clean shape of the 991.

    Like this one? Smiley

    1408795759518DSC_1238.jpg

    Gosh your 911 is pretty! laugh

    Indeed a real beauty, congrats Smiley


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    997.2 Cab 2S

    Maserati Quattroporte Sport GTS

    BMW X6 4.0D

    BMW X5 4.4i V8


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    J.Seven:
    pxaxh:
    bluelines:
    SuzyF:

    I prefer the more clean look, especially with the C4S, because of the light strip. No sunroof, no wing or ducktail. Just the clean shape of the 991.

    Like this one? Smiley

    1408795759518DSC_1238.jpg

    Gosh your 911 is pretty! laugh

    Indeed a real beauty, congrats Smiley


    I haven't seen a 991 in this colour before. In the picture it looks beautiful. The only speck on this tasteful car is the lettering on the lower part of the door. I'd have it removed.


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    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    reginos:

    I haven't seen a 991 in this colour before. In the picture it looks beautiful. The only speck on this tasteful car is the lettering on the lower part of the door. I'd have it removed.

    I actually like it. It's the best looking 991 I've seen so far and I've seen it in the flesh as well. Smiley


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    2012 Cayenne S White/Espresso 

    Ex: 993 Targa, 986S, 986 and 964 C2


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    bluelines:
    SuzyF:

    I prefer the more clean look, especially with the C4S, because of the light strip. No sunroof, no wing or ducktail. Just the clean shape of the 991.

    Like this one? Smiley

    1408795759518DSC_1238.jpg

    Is that dark blue metallic or paint to sample? Yachting blue?


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    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    The photo is not very accurate, but it's dark blue metallic. However, it is the combination with the Platinum wheels that makes it look so special IMO. If bluelines hadn't bought that car, I would probably have!  


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    Suzy

    2013 Porsche Boxster S (MT) | Basalt black metallic    [SOLD]
    2014 Audi A6 Avant 3.0 BiTDI Quattro | Moonshine blue metallic
     


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    Thank you all for the kind words! wink Did not expect that response. Sorry for hijacking the thread... or not angry

    The color is Dark Blue Metallic. As Suzy points out, it is the combination with platinum wheels that really makes it stand out. 

    The photo is indeed not accurate, although I prefer to call it artistic indecision Here are more accurate samples:

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    14089864816781.jpg


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE

    2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    Go on then - i'll take one, too. 233k CHF seems like too great a bargain to pass up!


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    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    bluelines:

    Thank you all for the kind words! wink Did not expect that response. Sorry for hijacking the thread... or not angry

    No way is this hijacking the thread.... it turns out you had the Original Swiss Edition Smiley.  And so far yours has more votes on RT....  Smiley


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    2011 Range Rover Sport S/C,  2009 Porsche 911S


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    The only way that price would make sense in the US is if the Gift Box contained a spare just like it.SmileySmileySmileySmileySmiley

    Awesome color though!  Nutty price.

     

    Seriously - for that price I could get the 4S, a Boxster S and a Macan all with the extended 10 year warranty.


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    d997h:

    I see that bluelines and Gnil have not posted today - so, where are they... ??? indecision ... No 1 - gone, no 2 - gone, and 12 to go...smiley

    I gave my slot away for a big premium Smiley


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    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    bluelines:

    14089864817393.jpg

     

    I confirm that Blueline's car is a superb combination of colors and specs. The one of 3 best looking 991 's I have ever seen . That blue is superb . 

    But on this pic I like the car behind much much more Smiley


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     997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


    Re: Porsche 991 Carrera 4S Swiss Edition

    4trac:

    No way is this hijacking the thread.... it turns out you had the Original Swiss Edition Smiley.  And so far yours has more votes on RT....  Smiley

    Smiley


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE

    2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White


     
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