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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    pmarkow:
    koko:

    Ferrari is AP

    Porsche is Rolex 

    Lambo is Hublot 

    for me porsche is rolex (top quality but nothing extraordinary except the DD), lambo is AP (shiny with good movements, but sometimes questionable taste) and ferrari is PP (simply the best).

    Didn't knew that PP has such a lousy build quality....Smiley


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    Whoopsy:
    AP911:

    What is McLaren then? JLC

     

    Definitely not JLC, Mclaren is not that classy. JLC is more like Mercedes.

    Urwerk is the one.


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    Price-wise, not comparable I'm afraid. Maybe McLaren is AP as well? Smiley


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    BjoernB:
    pmarkow:
    koko:

    Ferrari is AP

    Porsche is Rolex 

    Lambo is Hublot 

    for me porsche is rolex (top quality but nothing extraordinary except the DD), lambo is AP (shiny with good movements, but sometimes questionable taste) and ferrari is PP (simply the best).

    Didn't knew that PP has such a lousy build quality....Smiley

    Smiley Smiley 


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    xander71:

    tech specs

    340 kmh

    0-100 2.85

    730 hp

    770 Nm

    1290kg

    is this correct??

    If true, this is the car to get right now.

    Unless the price tag is beyond good and evil and availability will be an issue as well if I'm not wrong.

    If Ferrari asks 250k for the base car (the 488 base car is 213k in Germany, incl. 19% VAT), it will sell like crazy.


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    BiTurbo:
    RC:
    the-missile:
    RC:

    Actually, in my book, AP is Lamborghini, maybe Ferrari and PP is...Rolls Royce, while Rolex is Bentley. Smiley Smiley

    Now, I said it...Peter got old. He needs a Rolls rather than a 991.2 GT3 RS or Ferrari. Smiley Smiley

    In rose gold of course...with teak wood inside. Smiley


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    what is Porsche, then?Smiley

    IWC in my opinion...maybe TAG Heuer to some extent.

    They say it's the least expensive and most practical sportscar when compared to Lambo, Ferrari and Mclaren Smiley

    Casio is Honda... Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


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    Not a fan of the stripe but I love this car. kiss


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    BTW, price will be enormous. 


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    KresoF1:

    BTW, price will be enormous. 


    Correct. I heard something between 300 and 320k. If that's true... Smiley


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    Rossi:
    KresoF1:

    BTW, price will be enormous. 


    Correct. I heard something between 300 and 320k. If that's true... Smiley


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    Too much, even if Ferrari will surely find buyers...

    You can get a nicely equipped 720S for 270k.


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    Ferrari is Ferrari and can get away with charging 320k, McLaren cannot.


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    Carlos from Spain:

    Ferrari is Ferrari and can get away with charging 320k, McLaren cannot.

    True but 320k for a 488 Pista? No thanks. It will find enough buyers though, I am pretty sure about it. The specs are great.


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    Who cares about the price since if you want one at MSRP you won’t get one anyway unless you have a very strong relation with the dealer... I would rather Ferrari make the profit vs the speculators Smiley


    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    RC:
    Carlos from Spain:

    Ferrari is Ferrari and can get away with charging 320k, McLaren cannot.

    True but 320k for a 488 Pista? No thanks. It will find enough buyers though, I am pretty sure about it. The specs are great.

    When you slap WP onto the GT2 RS you're right up there with the Pista, is this acceptable with 2 less cylinders and a similar shape to the base Carrera + Aerokit Smiley


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    Looks good in white, yellow and red. I"d still go Swaters or Pozzi blu but I'm boring and like dark coloured supercars. 


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    Make no mistake: If I had to choose between the GT2 RS and the Pista for the very same money, I would clearly go for the Pista. Smiley


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    SciFrog:

    Who cares about the price since if you want one at MSRP you won’t get one anyway unless you have a very strong relation with the dealer... I would rather Ferrari make the profit vs the speculators Smiley

    Depends...if the Pista is limited edition or not. I kind of get the feeling that Ferrari understands that it is more important to sell more cars and make huge profit than to piss off interested customers, at least in Germany. The 488 GTB is and was always easy to get in Germany, maybe a bit more difficult for the Spider in the beginning (CR still got one of the first, no mark-up) but otherwise... Smiley

    If they'd make it a regular model, sell it at a 250k base price, they would easily outsell McLaren with the 720S.


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    RC:
    SciFrog:

    Who cares about the price since if you want one at MSRP you won’t get one anyway unless you have a very strong relation with the dealer... I would rather Ferrari make the profit vs the speculators Smiley

    Depends...if the Pista is limited edition or not.

    It is going to be a limited production run as opposed to Limited Series. My understadning is they all need to be built by the end of 2019 in advance of the true 458 successor.


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    FWIW, my dealer does not charge an ADM on Porsche's until possible now. The dealership has been getting out of state offers for the GT2 for $200,000 over MSRP. Its pretty difficult for a business to pass on that kind of money. I just hope similar offers don't come in for the RS. surprise


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    crayphile:
    RC:
    SciFrog:

    Who cares about the price since if you want one at MSRP you won’t get one anyway unless you have a very strong relation with the dealer... I would rather Ferrari make the profit vs the speculators Smiley

    Depends...if the Pista is limited edition or not.

    It is going to be a limited production run as opposed to Limited Series. My understadning is they all need to be built by the end of 2019 in advance of the true 458 successor.

    i hear there will be some production overlap and the aperta has to follow the pista.


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    the 488 pista,is a huge improvement of styling and technoloy, this ticle everything I have, pretty sure it is impossible to buy just with money. Do you think there will be any chance top get one if not previous Ferrari owner??

     


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    xander71:

    the 488 pista,is a huge improvement of styling and technoloy, this ticle everything I have, pretty sure it is impossible to buy just with money. Do you think there will be any chance top get one if not previous Ferrari owner??

     

    None,  I am afraid. Unless of course you offer to buy a Lusso at the same time Smiley.


    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    crayphile:
    xander71:

    the 488 pista,is a huge improvement of styling and technoloy, this ticle everything I have, pretty sure it is impossible to buy just with money. Do you think there will be any chance top get one if not previous Ferrari owner??

     

    None,  I am afraid. Unless of course you offer to buy a Lusso at the same time Smiley.

    On the other hand, if you do not insist on brand new, any Ferrari is obtainable... just wait until the inevitable flippers have had their 3000km and put it on sale. 


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    For an extra cool $100k... I would not pay over list for any car or watch, there are so many good ones without paying silly money...


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    Immagine the front without the led ligths, but only with the lower big ligths...what an improvment it would be....

     


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    I like it. Surprised we don't see more hoods like that.


     
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