Mar 14, 2005 9:22:14 PM
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Mar 14, 2005 9:31:53 PM
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Re: Instument dials in black on an S
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If you have seen a car with this option, please tell me that the Sport Chrono clock is in black also. I saw a disturbing picture that would suggest the contrary. Thanks.
To my knowledge, when you get the "free" black dials option, the sport chrono is also black. Well I hope so, the contrary would be awful!
Mar 14, 2005 9:38:24 PM
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Mar 14, 2005 9:48:10 PM
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Re: Instument dials in black on an S
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Thanks. I saw a pic of speed yellow dials and the sport chrono in aluminum. I realize it is all a matter of personal preference, but I hope the free black dials option means that all the dials are black.
I was thinking of ordering the black dials when I heard a rumor somewhere that said the sports chrono clock would remain silver. I didn't want to risk it because I agree different color dials from the chrono would look awful.
Mar 15, 2005 12:13:29 AM
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Mar 15, 2005 1:46:27 AM
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Mar 15, 2005 3:32:23 PM
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Re: Instument dials in black on an S
If you order "instrument dials in black" they will (should) come in black. Why? Because the wart is an instrument!
If doesn't match demand that they replace it. Check it when car arrives, do not accept delivery of the car.
This being said, I think all the dials WILL match, no LOGICAL reason they shouldn't. Porsche has access to an endless supply of black- and aluminum-colored warts.
If doesn't match demand that they replace it. Check it when car arrives, do not accept delivery of the car.
This being said, I think all the dials WILL match, no LOGICAL reason they shouldn't. Porsche has access to an endless supply of black- and aluminum-colored warts.
Re: Instument dials in black on an S
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If you order "instrument dials in black" they will (should) come in black. Why? Because the wart is an instrument!
If doesn't match demand that they replace it. Check it when car arrives, do not accept delivery of the car.
This being said, I think all the dials WILL match, no LOGICAL reason they shouldn't. Porsche has access to an endless supply of black- and aluminum-colored warts.
I think the reason everyone is questioning whether the sports chrono will match the other gauges is because when you order the other optional gauge colors (sand beige, terracotta, natural brown, guards red, speed yellow & carrara white) the sports chrono does not match them. Apparently Porsche only makes the wart in aluminum and black.
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Re: Instument dials in black on an S
This is issue all over the place! The 2004 "The New 911" brochure (mkt 001024 05) shows on page 73 a black instrument cluster and a white wart.
Page 88 apparently shows a brown instrument cluster with a brown wart.
Reading all the posts above it seems that only Porsche knows for sure how they've exercised their reserved right and have "changed specifications without notice."
Make the salesguy earn his commission and get the answer for your particular car and build date.
Page 88 apparently shows a brown instrument cluster with a brown wart.
Reading all the posts above it seems that only Porsche knows for sure how they've exercised their reserved right and have "changed specifications without notice."
Make the salesguy earn his commission and get the answer for your particular car and build date.
Mar 16, 2005 12:28:55 PM
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Re: Instument dials in black on an S
Ron how do you know the above pic is from an S ?
It could be base carrera with sport steering wheel.
AS for the hot subject i ve done my reasearch time ago, because i am a fan of colored instuments.
One thing is for sure.
When you order colored instuments, the chrono gauge remains as it is standart for the particular car(ie. black for base, silver for S)
This is just unacceptable though, for my personal aesthetics. Its like you added the chrono in your local service mechanic.
Now if you got the carrera S and you order black gauges, (as Le Chef confirmed-i hope you saw your car) then the chrono instrument also changes to black. So here it appears we have unity.
Noe the interesting part is:
For the base carrera you can order instruments in carrara white ,not in silver ,as are the standard instuments in carrera S. So as you can imagine- and this i have confirmed by my eyes, when you own the base model and go for white instuments you get carrara white-which is not a color the sport gauge is produced-thus you get the sport gauge still in black.
That is done partly to save the silver look gauges for the carrera S individualy.
Now if you have seen indeed a model that features color instuments with the same color gauge that might be a Porsche Exclusiv Program that will be expensive for sure, i mean everything can be done but you must show the money!
It could be base carrera with sport steering wheel.
AS for the hot subject i ve done my reasearch time ago, because i am a fan of colored instuments.
One thing is for sure.
When you order colored instuments, the chrono gauge remains as it is standart for the particular car(ie. black for base, silver for S)
This is just unacceptable though, for my personal aesthetics. Its like you added the chrono in your local service mechanic.
Now if you got the carrera S and you order black gauges, (as Le Chef confirmed-i hope you saw your car) then the chrono instrument also changes to black. So here it appears we have unity.
Noe the interesting part is:
For the base carrera you can order instruments in carrara white ,not in silver ,as are the standard instuments in carrera S. So as you can imagine- and this i have confirmed by my eyes, when you own the base model and go for white instuments you get carrara white-which is not a color the sport gauge is produced-thus you get the sport gauge still in black.
That is done partly to save the silver look gauges for the carrera S individualy.
Now if you have seen indeed a model that features color instuments with the same color gauge that might be a Porsche Exclusiv Program that will be expensive for sure, i mean everything can be done but you must show the money!
Re: Instument dials in black on an S
My dealer has a 997s with Sand colored dials and the Wart still has a white/silver dial. Someone else posted pics of red instrument dials and the Wart was in white/silver.
My black dials will ALL be in black, confirmed by the dealer calling HQ.
All the brochure shots I've seen do not show mixed dials. I have US and UK brochures and the shots are identical - black with black, silver with silver.
PASM is available as an option on the standard 997.
My black dials will ALL be in black, confirmed by the dealer calling HQ.
All the brochure shots I've seen do not show mixed dials. I have US and UK brochures and the shots are identical - black with black, silver with silver.
PASM is available as an option on the standard 997.
Re: Instument dials in black on an S
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Ron how do you know the above pic is from an S ?
It could be base carrera with sport steering wheel.
AS for the hot subject i ve done my reasearch time ago, because i am a fan of colored instuments.
One thing is for sure.
When you order colored instuments, the chrono gauge remains as it is standart for the particular car(ie. black for base, silver for S)
If you look at the sticker in the window, it says 911 Carrera S.
Mar 16, 2005 6:12:04 PM
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Mar 17, 2005 9:30:26 PM
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Re: Instument dials in black on an S
I can tell you that i wanted my S Cab to have black dials but Porsche told me that the dials on the stopwatch would have been white unless i wanted to pay 1000 or more euros for an aftermarket work. I couldn't believe that. I don't understand why in USA they seem to act differently. I swear to god i had to restore the white dials on my car. This is a shame for Porsche.
Mar 18, 2005 11:04:35 AM
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Re: Instument dials in black on an S
i ve said this before when you buy an S and spec for black dials alla dials including sport chrono are BLACK do not worry, only the opposite is bad .When having a base model and you order carrara white instruments you get chrono in black.
Outlaw Hawk you chrono is in white because you got the S. And (from the ingo i got) the chrono must me white/silver and not carrara white, although its your car, how can i be sure?
But why did you go for carrara white gauges when you had silver/white standard? Is it so different?
I kind of prefer the white/silver more than the carrara white, they just are too white i think. Are they so different ?i ve seen both but not next to each other i mean.
As someone asked the PASM is optional in base model.
Le chef try to get the Porsche exclusive brochure for the 997 and the tequipment. You can find some pics there showing the difference when you opt for color instruments, and its not nice at all
I ve seen in my dealer a white 997 base model with carrara white instruments and the sport chrono was black it was awful
Outlaw Hawk you chrono is in white because you got the S. And (from the ingo i got) the chrono must me white/silver and not carrara white, although its your car, how can i be sure?
But why did you go for carrara white gauges when you had silver/white standard? Is it so different?
I kind of prefer the white/silver more than the carrara white, they just are too white i think. Are they so different ?i ve seen both but not next to each other i mean.
As someone asked the PASM is optional in base model.
Le chef try to get the Porsche exclusive brochure for the 997 and the tequipment. You can find some pics there showing the difference when you opt for color instruments, and its not nice at all
I ve seen in my dealer a white 997 base model with carrara white instruments and the sport chrono was black it was awful
Re: Instument dials in black on an S
"I swear to god i had to restore the white dials on my car. "quote
Fabio what do you mean you restored, did you get the car in you hands did you ordered white dials .? please specify
And as you see i am not wron LeChef ordered black dials and they all come in black maybe you dealer in not well informed,mine knew nothing about these issues
Fabio what do you mean you restored, did you get the car in you hands did you ordered white dials .? please specify
And as you see i am not wron LeChef ordered black dials and they all come in black maybe you dealer in not well informed,mine knew nothing about these issues
Re: Instument dials in black on an S
Try ask Le chef and carlos i think they have both ordered black dials and the sports chrono will be black.
But keep in mind that white dials have also different lighting than black, the lights comes from a dard backround its very nice. I would pay much to have them in my base carrera
But keep in mind that white dials have also different lighting than black, the lights comes from a dard backround its very nice. I would pay much to have them in my base carrera
Mar 18, 2005 12:47:10 PM
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Re: Instument dials in black on an S
I don't know if its too different but because my car is in carrara white I just orderd the instument in the same color
and the sport chrono is white not silver/white and I really like it that way.
I'm posting a clear pic today of the sport chrono.
one more thing... I think Ill order a 997 turbo in guards red so if I orderd the instument dials in guards red will it all be red incloding the sport chrono dial???
and the sport chrono is white not silver/white and I really like it that way.
I'm posting a clear pic today of the sport chrono.
one more thing... I think Ill order a 997 turbo in guards red so if I orderd the instument dials in guards red will it all be red incloding the sport chrono dial???
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