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    Why is the Carrera called the Carrera ...and more

    The Carrera Panamericana races were held in Mexico in the fifties. La Carrera Panamericana, originally held from 1950-1954, was unlike any other race in the world. More grueling than Le Mans, four times longer than the Indy 500, and much more treacherous than the Mille Miglia, the race became an international sensation.

    They affected engineering and marketing from Modena to Michigan. Ferrari designed the 340 Mexico specifically for the race. Lincoln was repositioned as a high-performance luxury sedan because of its successes in Mexico. Porsche named the Porsche Carrera in honor of its race wins.

    In coordination with the La Carrera Panamericana Historic racing organizers, the organizers of "The Unlimited Class" are bringing modern day production vehicles back to La Carrera Panamericana to race.

    The new Unlimited Class of 2006 will allow any mass produced street legal vehicle to compete and practically anyone can enter.

    More info and entry details

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    Nice piece of history thanks

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    Thanks Jim!


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    Then, originally, only the 356 with a special Fuhrmann engine were called "356 carrera" (carrera being spanish for "race") later on, (because all models had that special engine?) all base 911's were called that way.
    -Joost-

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    Joost said:
    Then, originally, only the 356 with a special Fuhrmann engine were called "356 carrera" (carrera being spanish for "race") later on, (because all models had that special engine?) all base 911's were called that way.
    -Joost-



    Joost, I believe that is not entirely correct. In the early years of the 911, there was a time when there was the 911T, 911S and 911E, but no Carrerar. Later on, for some years, there was only the 911SC available, but no Carerra (around 79 to 85) again. SC standing for Super Carrera though.

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    Let's not make this too simple. There have been 911, and then 911S models, and then the 911L model, and then the series of 911T, 911E, and 911S models, and then 911 and 911S, and Carrera 3.0 and then 911SC,...

    Go buy a couple of books if you're not old enough or haven't been driving Porsches long enough to know all the diferences.

    Dan

    1974-1976 914 1.7 (73)
    1977-1981 911S (77)
    1981-1994 911SC Turbo (81)
    2006- Carrera S (06)

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    Dan L said:
    ...Go buy a couple of books if you're not old enough or haven't been driving Porsches long enough to know all the diferences...

    Dan

    1974-1976 914 1.7 (73)
    1977-1981 911S (77)
    1981-1994 911SC Turbo (81)
    2006- Carrera S (06)



    Dan,
    Sorry, was trying to keep it simple. Remarks like the latest sound very sarcastic on a forum, and are not a sign of sympathy. I hope I didn't offend you too much by stating it simplified... Am I old enough to offer you a beer to make it up with you?
    -Joost-

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    Sorry for it to come off that way. I think it (with a book) really is the easiest way to get into understanding all the history of these great cars. Obviously, trying to explain it in 4 sentences isn't going to handle it!

    Dan

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    So what did the 911"T" and "E" stand for on the old models, wasn't one of them a 4 banger, so "S" stands for super.. Never really thought about it much, like the Gibson ES-335 stands for "electric spanish" go figure

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    drivelikeajamaican said:
    So what did the 911"T" and "E" stand for on the old models, wasn't one of them a 4 banger, so "S" stands for super.. Never really thought about it much, like the Gibson ES-335 stands for "electric spanish" go figure



    Your answer and some background about them.I wont get granular about hp because it changed almost every year.

    The 912's had the 4 bangers. Early ones used the engine from the earlier 356. The 1976 912E used the VW 2.0 type 411 engine from the 914 2.0.

    The 6 cylinder 911's....

    T = Touring (standard compression, cams and carbs)(later injection)It was the base model 911.

    E = Einspritzer(German for fuel injection - a big deal then - and Boge self leveling suspension - mechanical fuel injection, higher compression pistons and hotter "E" cams) It was the comfort with speed model. Nobody liked the Boge self leveling suspension, it wallowed.

    S = Sport (high compression pistons,earliest cars had carbs-then switched to mechanical fuel injection and had S cams similar to 906 race car cams. The S also had its own sway bars and aluminum brake calipers. And some years it also had a aluminum engine lid. It Was the sport model. Very high strung with peaky cams that would flop the tach needle over like a hammer.

    On the T&E's you could order S suspension. And for the T and E's the complete S insturments were a option. You could
    also order the S suspension and S trim for the T's and E's.
    And also S wheels - Alloy 15's. Steel wheels were standard on the T and 14" alloys were standard on the E's.

    4spd manuals were standard for some years, except some
    years on the S when the 5spd was standard. The 5spds were optional on some years and on some models in some markets for the T and the E's.

    They also offered the Sportomatic gearbox. That was simply a 4spd with electric servos to work the clutch when you changed gears. The switch was in the gear shift assembly. Move the stick and voila into neutral you would go until you slotted the next gear and let go of the stick. VW used the same system in their own 3spd sportomatic at the time.

    Keep in mind all of the standard specs and options changed every year and were different in various markets.

    For trivianados of Bling out there, some of these 911's had the decklid Porsche Script emblem and Model Type emblems in Gold Letters for some years.

    When the 71 911S came out, the advertising headline for it
    was "It can do 144 mph for longer than you can" For back
    then, that was incredibly fast for a 2 liter engine. So the legend became stronger for the all conquering 911S.

    Limited slip differentials were a option and for a few years they also offered a electrically heated windshield.

    For '68 they only offered the 911L in the US. Basically a T, but with a new for then smog pump and a little more standard equipment. It ran like crap.

    During that time they also offered the 911R, 911RS (in Sport and Touring sub variants )and the RSR versions all built from and above the srandard 911S model.

    Hope this helps.

    Jim

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    My understanding is that S was short for "Super", not "Sport".

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    JimFlat6 said:
    Quote:
    drivelikeajamaican said:
    So what did the 911"T" and "E" stand for on the old models, wasn't one of them a 4 banger, so "S" stands for super.. Never really thought about it much, like the Gibson ES-335 stands for "electric spanish" go figure



    Your answer and some background about them.I wont get granular about hp because it changed almost every year.

    The 912's had the 4 bangers. Early ones used the engine from the earlier 356. The 1976 912E used the VW 2.0 type 411 engine from the 914 2.0.

    The 6 cylinder 911's....

    T = Touring (standard compression, cams and carbs)(later injection)It was the base model 911.

    E = Einspritzer(German for fuel injection - a big deal then - and Boge self leveling suspension - mechanical fuel injection, higher compression pistons and hotter "E" cams) It was the comfort with speed model. Nobody liked the Boge self leveling suspension, it wallowed.

    S = Sport (high compression pistons,earliest cars had carbs-then switched to mechanical fuel injection and had S cams similar to 906 race car cams. The S also had its own sway bars and aluminum brake calipers. And some years it also had a aluminum engine lid. It Was the sport model. Very high strung with peaky cams that would flop the tach needle over like a hammer.

    On the T&E's you could order S suspension. And for the T and E's the complete S insturments were a option. You could
    also order the S suspension and S trim for the T's and E's.
    And also S wheels - Alloy 15's. Steel wheels were standard on the T and 14" alloys were standard on the E's.

    4spd manuals were standard for some years, except some
    years on the S when the 5spd was standard. The 5spds were optional on some years and on some models in some markets for the T and the E's.

    They also offered the Sportomatic gearbox. That was simply a 4spd with electric servos to work the clutch when you changed gears. The switch was in the gear shift assembly. Move the stick and voila into neutral you would go until you slotted the next gear and let go of the stick. VW used the same system in their own 3spd sportomatic at the time.

    Keep in mind all of the standard specs and options changed every year and were different in various markets.

    For trivianados of Bling out there, some of these 911's had the decklid Porsche Script emblem and Model Type emblems in Gold Letters for some years.

    When the 71 911S came out, the advertising headline for it
    was "It can do 144 mph for longer than you can" For back
    then, that was incredibly fast for a 2 liter engine. So the legend became stronger for the all conquering 911S.

    Limited slip differentials were a option and for a few years they also offered a electrically heated windshield.

    For '68 they only offered the 911L in the US. Basically a T, but with a new for then smog pump and a little more standard equipment. It ran like crap.

    During that time they also offered the 911R, 911RS (in Sport and Touring sub variants )and the RSR versions all built from and above the srandard 911S model.

    Hope this helps.

    Jim



    Wow. That's a lot of info. You are a rennteam master!!!

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    JFT said:
    My understanding is that S was short for "Super", not "Sport".



    You are right JFT. I had Sport on the brain late late night!

     
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