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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Carlos from Spain:

    My view so far? They basically took a 991 rear, headlights, bumper and sloped rear and all, and a Cayman front, with four doors in the middle.

    Rear lights on 991.2 are taken from Panamera Sport Turismo Concept. So, new Panamera`s rear lights/trunk door & front is mostly taken from that concept. Its pity they didnt cloned front bumper too (maybe we will see that one on Turbo version).

     


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    apias:
    BiTurbo:

    A puzzling model to me in the Porsche lineup  angry

    Puzzling why? 

    2017 Porsche Panamera Turbo Sets 7:38 Nurburgring Time: Fastest Luxury Sedan

    Who are they competing with ? A Nissan GTR or just going for the title for the fastest sedan that will be driven mostly by older folks with family and maybe a dog or two Smiley


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    I also noticed the Turbo V8 gets a downgrade from 4.8L to 4.0L heart


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    BiTurbo:

    I also noticed the Turbo V8 gets a downgrade from 4.8L to 4.0L heart

    Burn it! F'king burn it man. Why does it even have a Porsche badge? It is a disgrace. A joke. A humiliation! The Porsche engineers are just pissing on us without even giving us the courtesy of calling it rain Smiley


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    Nice comparison kiss


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    A minor quibble but the top of the tailgate should be black on models with the panoramic roof.  The little stripe of paint looks wrong, especially as the tailgate contours follow the roof channels.


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    BiTurbo:
    apias:
    BiTurbo:

    A puzzling model to me in the Porsche lineup  angry

    Puzzling why? 

    2017 Porsche Panamera Turbo Sets 7:38 Nurburgring Time: Fastest Luxury Sedan

    Who are they competing with ? A Nissan GTR or just going for the title for the fastest sedan that will be driven mostly by older folks with family and maybe a dog or two Smiley

    Older folks, like RC (), who aren't ready to tuck in their shirts and step into a S Class.

    Well, basically anyone who needs more than 2 adult seats but doesn't want a boring car. However, I have it on good authority that dogs prefer the 911.


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    We all know that Porsche can deliver the goods. While I agree that design is huge. Let's not forget that what really matters....  How it drives. I can't wait until I can drive it. Porsche Panamera training will probably be early November here in the U.S.A.  For me right now it is like looking at a picture of a delicious steak and everyone telling me how good it tastes. 

    Cheers!!😀


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    I assume car will perform very well, but I am surprised Porsche is not working on weight reduction. New Panamera is heavy.


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    Will be very curious to try one too, maybe RWS will help differentiate the handling vs the Cayenne and Macan.

    On another note just drove the Cayenne diesel as a loaner. Vs the Macan turbo it fells slow and bloated and the interior is barley better than the Model X and no way near my red/black all leather interior.


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    Milanno:

    I assume car will perform very well, but I am surprised Porsche is not working on weight reduction. New Panamera is heavy.

     


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    SciFrog:

    Will be very curious to try one too, maybe RWS will help differentiate the handling vs the Cayenne and Macan.

    On another note just drove the Cayenne diesel as a loaner. Vs the Macan turbo it fells slow and bloated and the interior is barley better than the Model X and no way near my red/black all leather interior.

    I think I'd feel cheated if I paid for an all-leather interior and then found the much cheaper standard trim looked almost as good as it.  Smiley


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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    True, but the point was that really the X interior felt nicer...


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    BiTurbo:

    It still doesnt change the fact that for sports oriented car Panamera is heavy. Diesel S version (2050 kg) is almost 100 kg heavier than Audi A8 3.0 TDi (1955 kg) Smiley

    I know Porsche is not into chasing low weight records, but still, if BMW can put some CF on their 7 Series, Porsche could fit too on their (pricey) Panamera.


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    SciFrog:

    True, but the point was that really the X interior felt nicer...

    Only American people can say Tesla interiors are gorgeous Smiley


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    Milanno:
    SciFrog:

    True, but the point was that really the X interior felt nicer...

    Only American people can say Tesla interiors are gorgeous Smiley

    Never said I was americanSmileySmiley Did you actually sit in a new premium X?


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    They didn't fix this part. Still looks like shit :/1467155590633kjhkjhlkh.PNG


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    SciFrog:

    Never said I was americanSmileySmiley Did you actually sit in a new premium X?

    Than you have awful taste Smiley I had chance to sit in one in Monaco. Maybe I am too old-school guy, but those generic wanna be sci-fi interiors are horrible for me. Seats are very comfortable, but whole atmosphere in cabin is awful. 


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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Noone1, just curious--what is bad about this side panel treatment?


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    Wonderbar:

    Noone1, just curious--what is bad about this side panel treatment?

    It's that the left that stupid horizontal piece in the middle of the outlet and kept the end squared off even though they have a perfectly good design on the Sport Turismo that is angled forward.


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Thanks Milanno.  New one is much sleeker.  Makes the older model look puffy, like it was stung by a bee.  

    With a sport design kit, which is sure to follow, this car will be elegantly menacing.  And 0-60 mph in 3.5 for the Turbo…geez. 

    I am already picturing my wife and I getting out of one at the Adlon Kempinski by the Brandenburg Gate...


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Interesting point about the side intake, Noone1.  I compared the vertical (new one) versus the slant forward ((old model and Tourismo) and at first thought the slant forward was better and more racy and sporty.  But I do now think the more vertical one (a) makes the front side panel look cleaner and more substantial, and (b) flows nicely down from the front windscreen, giving the driving compartment more of a solid, enclosed box look.  A bit of a nod to the 991 side view, as well.  That's about as far as I can go as an unskilled designer--maybe Milanno and others could comment?

    I did notice that the Microsite does mention the "vertical" look as a new design element compared to the old model, so obviously the designers made a conscious design change...


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    Milanno:
    SciFrog:

    True, but the point was that really the X interior felt nicer...

    Only American people can say Tesla interiors are gorgeous Smiley

    I'm an American.

    Tesla is a  perfect definition of "Bland', Boring", Personal Transport Appliance Device.Smiley

    It's interior is the worst in the civilized World, competitive only against Tata Nano.


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    I think it looks way better than before ! im sure it has great presence in the metal. A little surprised that the front stayed so unchanged. 


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    I remember someone said there is an option of 2+1 at the rear seat..... I don't see how that is going to work with that big chunk of block in the middle... what the heck is that big block of chunk in the middle anyways... totally pointless!!!


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    http://www.porsche.com/germany/accessoriesandservices/exclusive/panamera/

    with sport design pack and other exclusive options.

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    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Maybe I missed this, but,

    Porsche has officially confirmed that it will do a station-wagon version of the Panamera (previewed by the fetching Sport Turismo concept), and that it will be sold in the United States.

    -- http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2017-porsche-panamera-photos-and-info-news


    Re: Panamera 2016 (Gen.2) Thread Closed

    Very nice car, the engine in the 4 s in very good, very low CO2.

    But this car is 8 cm longer compared to the old model, I do not understand why these cars are getting bigger and bigger. IMO too big for a sporty sedan.


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    3 cm, not 8


     
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