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    Any hesitation/lag with 500HP TT?

    I may be about to acquire one-I think this is the Powerkit with some bling eg. 20" wheels. Could RC or anyone with PK/Turbo S comment on how this car "feels". I am well aware how the standard TT feels. I hope the 500HP is more instant-and grin inspiring!

    Re: Any hesitation/lag with 500HP TT?

    You will find many comments in previous threads on this forum, including some detailed and very informative reviews from RC. The PK/Turbo S has a little more oomph, mostly notable at high speeds and high rpm, a bit better handling, and brakes with more endurance. An increase in hp from 450 to 521 is significant, but not dramatic. For me, the suspension mods are as important as the hp. The price tag is steep for what you get, but, for some folks like me, voiding the warranty with a 3rd party tuner was not an attractive option. My biggest complaint (which RC feels is one of its biggest virtues, - but he gets to have "Autobahn fun," for which I am deeply envious) is that the larger brakes are a huge PITA in a category that is important to me: it is impossible to find N-rated tires with even passable snow or off-road performance in the 19" and 20" sizes.

    Re: Any hesitation/lag with 500HP TT?

    Here is how Porsche describes their $19,900 powerkit option:

    "Raises power output to 368 kW (500 bhp). Includes modified intercoolers, ECU and a brake system and suspension setup adapted to the increased engine performance."

    Having just got a Cayenne Turbo within the last week, the standard 450 HP version is a lot of fun. I can't compare it with either the PK or S versions since I haven't driven them.

    I haven't noticed much lag with my turbo, the power seems pretty instant and you can easily slam your head against the seat with a push on the gas pedal.

    A .6 second gain 0-60 MPH Turbo verses Turbo S is significant. It just wasn't worth the at least $30,000 difference I would have had to pay over the discounted price I paid for my new Turbo.

    Phil

    Re: Any hesitation/lag with 500HP TT?

    Chickencurry, what I didn't mention, though RC has detailed, is that the "throttle/transmission hesitation" is still definitely present with the PK, though maybe lessened a bit, IMHO. The biggest difference between the CTT and the CTT-PK, aside from handling, that I can tell is when I get to actually floor the accelerator and hold it there for more than a few seconds. Alas, those opportunities are far too rare in my daily driving.

    Haven't driven a Turbo-S, but, since RC's sources confirm it's the exact same drivetrain and programming as the PK, I'm assuming the same issue prevails. This isn't turbo lag, and is a royal pain in daily driving, but is greatly minimized by turning off PSM or using the Tip. In fact, I would postulate that turning off the PSM might make a bigger difference in most folks' daily driving of a std Turbo than having the extra hp of the Turbo-S (just my guess, may be wrong), but turning the PSM off routinely makes me a little nervous, given the number of evasive maneuvers I have to make during my daily commute. While I'm happy without it on the track, where there is no oncoming traffic (unless you're working on your bootlegger turns ) or 18-wheelers, those otherwise annoying computers can make some good things happen faster than I can when the stuff hits the fan on the freeway.

    Phil, I couldn't agree more with your decision. Given the discount you got, I would have easily opted for the standard Turbo, which would have given me the option of a collapsible spare, a separate set of 18" M&S, and maybe some aftermarket tuning in a few years, toward the end of the warranty, if I planned to keep the truck. Hope you are enjoying driving your "bargain" (did I really use that word about a truck that costs that much, even at a big discount?).

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    sigs said:
    Phil, I couldn't agree more with your decision. Given the discount you got, I would have easily opted for the standard Turbo, which would have given me the option of a collapsible spare, a separate set of 18" M&S, and maybe some aftermarket tuning in a few years, toward the end of the warranty, if I planned to keep the truck. Hope you are enjoying driving your "bargain" (did I really use that word about a truck that costs that much, even at a big discount?).



    I figured I was in this right side up paying "only" $78,800 ($82,500 with 20" sport techno wheels) for a new 2005. It is the color I wanted and was optioned real close to what I wanted My biggest concern was the condition of a midwest auto after many months of outside living at the dealership. I asked a local detailer to check it out for me. He said it was perfect. Now that I have it I can confirm it is in fact perfect. The paint is very smooth and doesn't have any swirls or scratches. I see used 2005's in ads for more than I paid. When I price it at the Porsche website as a 2006 it is over $98,000.

    The other problem right now is the availability of Turbos. All the dealers are getting are the Turbo S model. So, unless you can find the one you want sitting around, you cannot get a non-S turbo at the moment. I wasn't ready to step up to $111,000+ (more like $113,00 with the few options I would want).

    First impressions after one week......Great acceleration, handles pretty well for a SUV, strong brakes, decent ride for a 4X4 on 20's, solid and a quality feel to all the components. Wasn't sure about the looks of a Cayenne. I always felt it was okay, but Porsche could have done better. The more I look at it the better I feel. I guess it grows on you.

    Since it was delivered to my home via truck I didn't go through the normal get acquainted tour of the car with the salesman. I thought that I would just be able to do everything without the manual since I have a Porsche Carrera. A lot of family resemblance, but I had to actually read the manual to figure out a few things. The radio/GPS is virtually the same as the Carrera, the Cayenne just has a bigger screen. Seat controls are similar. The windshield wipers got me for a minute.....I couldn't figure out how to turn off the back one. Don't have a back one in the cab.

    So far so good. Ask me how I feel about it six months from now.

    Phil

    Re: Any hesitation/lag with 500HP TT?

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    PS CA said:
    Having just got a Cayenne Turbo within the last week, the standard 450 HP version is a lot of fun. I can't compare it with either the PK or S versions since I haven't driven them.



    Phil, congratulations. You should have told us.
    Right now I'm driving a Cadillac Escalade ESV and although I like the interior room and the XM Satellite radio, the quality impression isn't too good, all this plastic allover the interior, the steering feel is numb, the engine is responsive but not powerful enough for it's weight, the auto tranny feels a little bit sluggish and the handling feel is like the one of a ship (or a real truck). Horrible, even if it isn't that slow in curves as it feels.
    Just can't wait to get back into my Cayenne Turbo. There is no substitute.

    Re: Any hesitation/lag with 500HP TT?

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    RC said:
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    PS CA said:

    I like the interior room and the XM Satellite radio,



    Where in Europe I can buy it??

     
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