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    Re: New MINI

    and they say porsche's designers were lazy when they designed the 997.

    I can't even see the difference. It says it's a bigger car. So it'll probably be heavier too. This means the handling could be affected by both size and weight.

    Way to go beemer.

    Re: New MINI

    Just an FYI, early analysis points to about 10kg, or 22lb lower weight. Cheers.

    http://motoringfile.com/2006/08/14/official-2007-mini-specifications/#more-5086

    Re: New MINI

    I LOVE the Mini , we had a yellow Cooper when it was just released in 2002 and it was a great car.

    Re: New MINI

    "The S uses a turbocharger to release 175bhp from the 1.6-litre engine, doing away with the original Cooper S's supercharger. "

    Argh, I would have loved to have turbo instead of supercharger! Small car turbo lag is a fun toy...


    "The Cooper S is capable of 40.9mpg on the combined cycle, which is very respectable for a hot hatch and more than 8mpg better than the previous S."

    Yea, I get closer to 28mpg and I don't exactly hammer the gas. Let's be a bit more conservative BMW

    "Smoother upper body styling has reduced the new Mini's aerodynamic drag factor (down from the old car's 0.35 to 0.33), helped along by a new spoiler at the rear of the roof."


    Very good, my car does "drag a lot" which makes high speed highwaying a gas guzzle.

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    All in all, I think its a very competent upgrade, a la 996-->997 Porsche. I'd love to test drive one next time I go to my dealer!

    Re: New MINI

    amazon is right ,visual difference is really small

    Re: New MINI

    I'll stick to mine thanks Can barely see the difference, this is the facelifted version correct?

    Re: New MINI

    I dont like the frontas much- the grill looks like the new Shelby cobra.

    Re: New MINI

    Theres almost no change to the exterior.... It's still one of the most funky car designs around but the change is way to small IMO...

    Re: New MINI

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    BC911J said:
    Theres almost no change to the exterior.... It's still one of the most funky car designs around but the change is way to small IMO...



    Question: how do you change the design of an icon, without making something wrong or worse?

    The design is perfect, so why change anything? Remember the old Mini and how long we had to live with its design.

    Re: New MINI

    I know, but at least they could have changed the interior a bit more...


    Is this the new Mini or a facelift???

    Re: New MINI

    Quote:
    BC911J said:
    I know, but at least they could have changed the interior a bit more...


    Is this the new Mini or a facelift???



    I'd say it's a new Mini, as the car has become bigger and also the engines and the interior are new.

    BTW, shouldn't we call it New New Mini then?

    Re: New MINI

    lol true

    Re: New MINI

    I like it.
    some more pics.

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    i like the interior!
    but the new cooper is slower than my "old" cooper with tuning. and i love my cooper. because i don't change it for the new new cooper

    Ferdi

    Re: New MINI

    In those pics the differences are more pronounced.... I like it alot actually

    Re: New MINI

    exactly my thoughts bc911!

    Re: New MINI

    Looks good. Cooper S will have a LSD
    Cooper S JCW 230-240hp

    Re: New MINI

    ...and a sports button without the wart on the dash board!!

     
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