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    New M4 CSL

     


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    22 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 18 GT3 Manual, 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: New M4 CSL

    The previous iteration remains peak BMW for me, such a gorgeous car and lovely to drive (regardless of that SMG box), would love to get one again at some point as a keeper.


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    Re: New M4 CSL

    How is the Fezza saga developing?

     


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    Re: New M4 CSL

    spudgun:

    How is the Fezza saga developing?

     

    Absurd... The manager of the dealership has taken our case to Italy he claims, but without reminders we don't hear anything at all. 0 proposal as of now.


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    Re: New M4 CSL

     


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    22 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 18 GT3 Manual, 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: New M4 CSL

    Nordschleife time is 7:15.7 (6.4s slower than GT4 RS on same tires, assuming the CSL time is for full lap - otherwise an 11s difference).

    Edit:  Just saw that CSL full lap is 7:20.2

    https://youtu.be/rM-CpzWA1qU
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    22 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 18 GT3 Manual, 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: New M4 CSL

    https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/05/19/bmw-m4-csl/


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    22 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 18 GT3 Manual, 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: New M4 CSL

    Looks horrendous, once again. Compare that to the understated looks of the previous one...

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    1988 Peugeot 205 Rallye / 2004 Porsche 996 GT3 RS  / 2018 Mercedes-AMG E63 S / 2020 Ferrari 812SF


    Re: New M4 CSL

    It seems like they are targeting a very different demographic now, so tacky now...


    Re: New M4 CSL

    enlightened


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    I don't mind it. It has it's own agressive style. I am pretty sure that in a few years, the design will be accepted. 

    I mind more the weight.  But I am sure this car will be very fast around the Ring in the amateur community . 


    Re: New M4 CSL

    My biggest objection is also the weight and the need to have a slushbox torque-converter automatic gearbox.  Unfortunately (like the Manual Porsche GT4 gearbox, it cannot handle the torque of their highest spec motor, so automatic only).

    My hope is that the next generation M2 will also have a CSL version that is truly lightweight, smaller, and has a choice of Manual gearbox (which will make it lighter still and maybe more fun to drive).


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    22 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 18 GT3 Manual, 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


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    Grant:

    My biggest objection is also the weight and the need to have a slushbox torque-converter automatic gearbox.  Unfortunately (like the Manual Porsche GT4 gearbox, it cannot handle the torque of their highest spec motor, so automatic only).

    My hope is that the next generation M2 will also have a CSL version that is truly lightweight, smaller, and has a choice of Manual gearbox (which will make it lighter still and maybe more fun to drive).


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    22 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 18 GT3 Manual, 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    I dit not realize this !! Smiley  The gearbox in the original CSL was bad too, looks like a remake then.

    Manual M2 CSL would be such a great product. 


    Re: New M4 CSL

    Gnil:

    I did not realize this !! Smiley  The gearbox in the original CSL was bad too, looks like a remake then.

             Manual M2 CSL would be such a great product. 

    Yes, I think all newest BMW M models have gotten rid of the old DCT for the ZF 8-spd torque-converter automatic.

    The Manual 6spd can only handle the torque of the RWD base models of the M3/M4 (without Competition spec).


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    22 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 18 GT3 Manual, 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: New M4 CSL

    This looks good. 
    50 pieces. All sold. 700k 

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    Re: New M4 CSL

    Flashback to my '13.....Great car, last of the V8'sP1010570.jpegP1010493.jpeg
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    Re: New M4 CSL

    Grant:

    My biggest objection is also the weight and the need to have a slushbox torque-converter automatic gearbox.  Unfortunately (like the Manual Porsche GT4 gearbox, it cannot handle the torque of their highest spec motor, so automatic only).--

     

    22 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 18 GT3 Manual, 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    RS variants never come with manual gearboxes, so even if one could have been fitted, it logically would not have been offered.


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    Re: New M4 CSL

    Misha has a good point:

    Usually Christian Gebhardt from Sport Auto is about 10 seconds slower than factory lap times.

     

    [Cup2] M4 Comp: 7:30.79 (20.6km) (Sport Auto)

    [Cup2] M4 Comp xDrive: 7:28.57 (20.6km) (Sport Auto)

    [Cup2 R] M4 CSL: 7:15.68 (20.6km) (BMW)

     

     

    -10 seconds "factory driver":

    [Cup2] M4 Comp: 7:20.79 (20.6km) (Sport Auto)

    [Cup2] M4 Comp xDrive: 7:18.57 (20.6km) (Sport Auto)

    [Cup2 R] M4 CSL: 7:15.68 (20.6km) (BMW)

     

    A Comp xDrive with Cup2 R might be faster than CSL!


     
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