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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Grant:

    Oh my God!:

    https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/products/porsche-911-gt3-nuerburgring-best-lap-time-13710.html


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    It is nice they specify the tires used Smiley Regular Cup2 N1 tires.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    From road and track. the car completely OEM.

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a33380/2018-911-gt3-nurburgring-time/


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Grant:
     

    If the tires are N1, that is same compound as RS (but RS has bigger tires).  So, it's over 7 sec. faster than RS with same power, torque, tire compound (but smaller ones), gearing, and less downforce.

    Somehow, I think the new motor is a monster (despite same ratings as R and RS).  Having 9k redline will help in itself (higher rpm after an upshift)

    Suspension tuning must be very good too...

     

     

    Actually I think Pirelli and Porsche do those N rating differently depending on sizing. 

    My 911R came with N0 Cup2s.Standard on GT4 and others. They are the the normal sticky version. Not like the ECO rated N0 in RS sizing for 918.

    I believe the new GT3 will have the N1 but these N1 will be more advanced than the RS's N1. As in even stickier.

     

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I thought the driver was sensational. For 95% of the time he had the car between 6-9000 RPM's throughout the drive.kiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    2017 Porsche 911 GT3 onboard video of Nurburgring lap...

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvSAPVwHvIY

    Smiley Smiley Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    nberry:

    I thought the driver was sensational. For 95% of the time he had the car between 6-9000 RPM's throughout the drive.kiss

    Driver is great, but PDK can do that all by itself...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Whoopsy:

    Actually I think Pirelli and Porsche do those N rating differently depending on sizing. I believe the new GT3 will have the N1 but these N1 will be more advanced than the RS's N1. As in even stickier.

    Oh, good to know.  That seems like a confusing system though.  They should come up with a new N rating when they change the compound (if not a new model name).


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Grant:
    Whoopsy:

    Actually I think Pirelli and Porsche do those N rating differently depending on sizing. I believe the new GT3 will have the N1 but these N1 will be more advanced than the RS's N1. As in even stickier.

    Oh, good to know.  That seems like a confusing system though.  They should come up with a new N rating when they change the compound (if not a new model name).


     

     

    I guess since they really only uses 3 sets of sizing, one for the 918/RS, one for the 911s and then one for the GT4, each 'set' gets their own increments. 

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    nberry:

    I thought the driver was sensational. For 95% of the time he had the car between 6-9000 RPM's throughout the drive.kiss

    Crazy fast...  what a car!  and well  dressed...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I had a look at a tyre website the other day and it seems that the N1 versions of the GT3 sizes are now generally available, if slightly more expensive than the N0. I shall be buying a set soon. indecision


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Interesting they kept to the fully mechanical diff for the manual version.  Interested to read more in how that affects the drive experience.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    DaveGordon:

    I had a look at a tyre website the other day and it seems that the N1 versions of the GT3 sizes are now generally available, if slightly more expensive than the N0. I shall be buying a set soon. indecision

    Will be interested to hear if it improves you times very much Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Grant:
    996FourEss:

    Would be fascinating to see how much of this came from the tires and how much from the rest of the car

    If the tires are N1, that is same compound as RS (but RS has bigger tires).  So, it's over 7 sec. faster than RS with same power, torque, tire compound (but smaller ones), gearing, and less downforce.

     

    According to Porsche's press release they used Cup2 N1, with a track temp of 14ªC and ambient of 8ºC.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    vantagesc:

    Interesting they kept to the fully mechanical diff for the manual version.  Interested to read more in how that affects the drive experience.

    Same as with GT4 and 911R (but GT3 has more aggressive locking ratios than either)...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I think Nberry ( Nick), will change his mind regarding colour, he will go for yellow again....indecision


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Me too, now that it's confirmed as the fastest color...kiss


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I am glad that Porsche achieved this lap time so that the people who threw a tantrum about the 7.29 time can sleep again 

    Yellow is the one to have. Or PTS Starbucks "Skinny Latte" Green.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    bluelines:

    I am glad that Porsche achieved this lap time so that the people who threw a tantrum about the 7.29 time can sleep again 

    Yeah, I've been awake for a week Smiley  Do you think Porsche made that ad just to yank our chains?  They wouldn't do that, would they? Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    About a month late for April Fools

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I would love to get yellow. But the interior for yellow sucks especially for those of us getting early allocations. I could wait but why would I want to do that? The RS is on the horizon and I have my eye on it but still not sure I will go for it.

    The McLaren 720S looks interesting and is priced right. But if I have trouble handling 500hp what am I going to do with 700hp?yes


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Depends how much attention you want on the road and whether you want to put $300k into a weekend car.  GT3 at $150k is a tremendous "value" and allows you to blend in slightly more.  But then, these toys are never rational.

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    LWB replaced by race seat for this series of runs.  I gather if one is serious about tracking the LWBs are equal to the standard sport seats, equally unsuitable?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    DaveC:

    LWB replaced by race seat for this series of runs.  I gather if one is serious about tracking the LWBs are equal to the standard sport seats, equally unsuitable?

    LWB's hold you better that sport seats, are height adjustable, allow for 6-point harnesses, and have factory airbags (unlike race seats)


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    LWB are a good dual purpose seat, but for many, the amount of support you get from a real seat is far greater.  Halo for the head is a nice safety feature.  But, besides the lack of an airbag, a full race seat is nearly unusable on the street.

    So you have to choose the compromise that works best for you.  


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Boyko23:
    noone1:

    Gotta get me some new tires.

    Realize that you want to lower the GT3 achievment, but no... I think you have to get yourself a 991.2 GT3... Smiley

    Not at all. Porsche GT3s are great cars, but it's just not a coincidence that suddenly every car and every brand is now putting in massive performance gains from minor evolutionary changes. Probably a bigger change in from 991.1 -> 991.2 than there is from 997 -> 991.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Grant:
    bluelines:

    I am glad that Porsche achieved this lap time so that the people who threw a tantrum about the 7.29 time can sleep again 

    Yeah, I've been awake for a week Smiley  Do you think Porsche made that ad just to yank our chains?  They wouldn't do that, would they? Smiley

    7:29 is customer time . 7: 12 is factory driver time Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Carlos from Spain:
    Grant:
    996FourEss:

    Would be fascinating to see how much of this came from the tires and how much from the rest of the car

    If the tires are N1, that is same compound as RS (but RS has bigger tires).  So, it's over 7 sec. faster than RS with same power, torque, tire compound (but smaller ones), gearing, and less downforce.

     

    According to Porsche's press release they used Cup2 N1, with a track temp of 14ªC and ambient of 8ºC.

    Maybe they should have mentioned they used tire warmers before the lap... Smiley Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    noone1:
    Boyko23:
    noone1:

    Gotta get me some new tires.

    Realize that you want to lower the GT3 achievment, but no... I think you have to get yourself a 991.2 GT3... Smiley

    Not at all. Porsche GT3s are great cars, but it's just not a coincidence that suddenly every car and every brand is now putting in massive performance gains from minor evolutionary changes. Probably a bigger change in from 991.1 -> 991.2 than there is from 997 -> 991.

    Nissan was the first to start this BS and since no one called them for it really, they( other manufacturers) assumed, what the heck, we may just do it as well, claim these crazy numbers and most folks will buy it at face value.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    nberry:

    I would love to get yellow. But the interior for yellow sucks especially for those of us getting early allocations. I could wait but why would I want to do that? The RS is on the horizon and I have my eye on it but still not sure I will go for it.

    The McLaren 720S looks interesting and is priced right. But if I have trouble handling 500hp what am I going to do with 700hp?yes

    The RS is not confirmed and even if they make it chances are you won't be able to get one unless you are your dealer's favorite client. I don't know about the standard GT3 but the RS strictly for spirited driving on twisty roads and occasional track driving. It's not good at all for a daily driver, it is very unpleasant both in the city and on a highway.

    For it's price the standard GT3 is a fantastic product and more honest than the RS. The GT3 RS is way to close to 488 money and I am yet challenged to find a scenario besides track driving when I would chose to go out with the RS over the 488. Of course when you start thinking about the cars as investments it is getting more complicated...

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/fahrberichte/porsche-911-gt3-991-2-getriebe-check-handschalter-pdk-8349424.html

    Auto Motor und Sport doing a pluses and minuses comparison of PDF v manual. It is in German.


     
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