Crown

Board: Porsche - 911 - 997 - Turbo Language: English Region: Worldwide Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    is the 997.2 turbo going to have centerlocking wheels like the 997.2 GT3?


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    I believe the Spyder wheel option will have this yes


    --


    Click for bigger picture!


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

     

    I think that 997.2 Turbo will be even with 997.1 Turbo Stage 1.

    And 997.2 Turbo will be able to have Stage 2 with torque limitation at 760-770Nm. In such a case the tuners will try to make the torque shelf wider at the level of 760-770 instead of doing one-time torque jump to 800Nm and having 750Nm at all other revvs. I know that it is possible to tune the car to have one-time torque jump or wide solid torque shelf.

    Such 997.2 Turbo Stage 2 will be faster than 997.1 Turbo Stage 2, not far from Stage 3 cars.

    BMW 3.0 TwinTurbo is built with the same torque shelf principle for example. 

     


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    how about in terms of exhaust note?

    would the new engine sound better or worse than the old?


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    Enjoy this video:


    --

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor 997 Turbo, Cayenne Turbo S, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

     RC,

    Is this your car or a 997.2 TT ?


    --
    Happy Driving

    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    It looks like a tiptronic car, so I'd guess it's a 997.1.  I would imagine it's RC's.


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    its heavil

    nice one

    its heavily tuned 997.1 TT


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    RC's car only has a Cargraphic Sports Exhaust (as far as we know on RT), no tuning.

    However, this car seems to do 200-300 in about 17s and the 997.1 Tiptronic Turbo is listed at about 28s - so yes, this must be a heavily modified Turbo with about 650 BHP, probably something like an RT12!

    Unsure why RC posted this video in this thread though Smiley


    --


    Click for bigger picture!


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    A RT12 would have a green Ruf instrument cluster. 

    Funny on the youtube page, it says "taken with an iPhone"  I really hope it wasn't the driver...lol


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    agree with you

     

    it could be stage 3 997TT with modified VTG or stroker kit...

    stage 2 isn;t that fast 


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    You guys are forgetting about the speedometer error. The 200-300 km/h time is probably closer to about 21-22 seconds. Add to that the 10-11 seconds it takes to get to 200 km/h and you are in the 31-33-second range of the Stage 2 kits for the 0-300 sprint. I would say either Cargraphic 544 or Ruf 550.


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    I'm visualizing a 997TT flying down the autobahn with the driver staring at is iPhone.  LOL.

    Other observations...1.2 bar past 10second overboost, stock shift points on transmission control unit.  I agree with Crash.


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    A couple of remarks (please don't ask more):

    1. yes, video has been taken with iPhone 3GS, direct upload to YouTube (compression active, this is why the quality isn't very good)

    2. yes, it is a Tiptronic...kind of...

    3. speedo is gauged/calibrated, PCM was also showing GPS data for speed (non-standard)

    4. engine has up to 20% more power than first gen 997 Turbo

    5. overboost active over the whole speed/rev range without time limit (non standard)

    6. I wish it was my car

    7. I took the video riding in the passenger seat, holding the iPhone 3GS in the right position (this is why it doesn't shake too much, electronic suspension/chassis control was faulty and it used the stiffest/sportiest settings)

    8. top speed was 321 kph (non standard gearbox and gearing ratio since it was using Tiptronic)

    9. inside noise was actually pretty quiet, the music was running, this is why it is so loud

    You're welcome...


    --
     

    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor 997 Turbo, Cayenne Turbo S, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    OK - I am massively confused.  This is posted in a facelift Turbo thread, indicating this is a 997.2 Porsche  - although it has Tiptronic 5 gears shown on the dashboard, and I was under the impression Tip's were being scrapped for PDK?!

    In order for this to have 20% more power than a 1st gen Turbo it must be about 576PS (which is consistent with the 200-300 time).  No way would Porsche give the 997.2 Turbo that much power over the pre-facelift.  That's nearly 100 bhp more! 

    So the only conclusion is that RC got a ride in a Porsche test mule for the 997.2 Turbo and Porsche have dialled up the power as high as possible in order to make sure it doesn't blow up.  In which case you're a very brave man for getting in the car!


    --


    Click for bigger picture!


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    After reding your post I came to a conclusion that it is 997.2 Turbo mule with PDK and about 580 hp. This is the potential max power PDK can handle I predict.

    Overboost is capable for 30-40 hp more and it's turned here all the time. 580 hp is the max power with overboost turned on.

     

    200-300 is about 17 secs.

    0-200 will take in such a case  about 10 secs

    then 0-300 is about 27 secs

    this level of tuning is equal to Stage 2 modifications.

    So we see that 997.2 TT with Stage 2 will be even faster than 997.1 TT with Stage 3 which is about 29-30 secs to 300.

    Alex_997TT, the car will be fantastic - I think, that it may be worth changing even in your situation:-)


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    artur777:

    Alex_997TT, the car will be fantastic - I think, that it may be worth changing even in your situation:-)

    Not even if Porsche PAID ME to trade! Smiley


    --


    Click for bigger picture!


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

     Just for the sake of interest,

    since August Porsche will produce cars of MY2010.

    But if 997.2TT is to be presented only in November, what Turbo model will be produced from August till December 2009?

    Or no one it will be?


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    artur777:

     Just for the sake of interest,

    since August Porsche will produce cars of MY2010.

    But if 997.2TT is to be presented only in November, what Turbo model will be produced from August till December 2009?

    Or no one it will be?


    PERFECT QUESTION , exactly what i was thinking!!

     

    the facelift TT will be 2011????????


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    artur777:

     Just for the sake of interest,

    since August Porsche will produce cars of MY2010.

    But if 997.2TT is to be presented only in November, what Turbo model will be produced from August till December 2009?

    Or no one it will be?


    From August 2009 till June 2010 is MY2010. 997.2 Turbo is MY2010.

    MY2011 starts in August 2010. Actually with price list June 2010.


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

     

    So 997.2 TTS - will it be MY 2011 then according to your words?


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    artur777:

     

    So 997.2 TTS - will it be MY 2011 then according to your words?


    Read carefully... MY2010 of course. It simply can not be MY2011 since production will start in September 2009(press cars).


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    And I have talked to Porsche dealer today  - they have said that it's now impossible to order and 911 Turbo until the info on 997.2 Turbo is released...


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    artur777:

    they have said that it's now impossible to order and 911 Turbo until the info on 997.2 Turbo is released...

    right Smiley


    --
    997 TT, what a car/che'mmmmmaghena!!!

    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    i can't imagine the 997.2 whitout PDK

    A91 or GT1 block?

    that is the real questionSmiley 


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    ..that I ve been also asking for weeks now! And none seems to want to answer from those in the know at this thread!

    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    it will be the real surprise

    if it's A91 block it's a "new ages" for turbo 

     


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    A friend of me collected yesterday his 997S at the factory in Zuffenhausen.

    During the Factory-Tour he spotted a Turbo-Body on the production line with "Central locking Wheels".

    The Factory-Tour Guide told them: "That is not for your eyes.... "

     

    Blueflame

     


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    blueflame:

    During the Factory-Tour he spotted a Turbo-Body on the production line with "Central locking Wheels"


    Well, central locking wheels are an option for current 997 Turbos...


    --

    997 Turbo


    Re: 997.2 Turbo info thread

    Mikla:
    blueflame:

    During the Factory-Tour he spotted a Turbo-Body on the production line with "Central locking Wheels"


    Well, central locking wheels are an option for current 997 Turbos...


    The Turbo on the line also hat FL- Tail lights.... Inside the factory he spotted another FL-Turbo with a covered steering wheel - may be Paddles Smiley

    But no Pics - just the first hand info from him from yesterday in Stuttgart.

    Blueflame Smiley


     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part II) 4/11/24 6:53 AM
    GnilM
    738625 1796
    Porsche Sticky Welcome to Rennteam: Cars and Coffee... (photos) 4/7/24 11:48 AM
    Boxster Coupe GTS
    426263 565
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Cayman GT4 RS (2021) 5/12/23 12:11 PM
    W8MM
    257887 288
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Porsche 911 (992) GT3 RS - 2022 3/12/24 8:28 AM
    DJM48
    252296 323
    Porsche Sticky The new Macan: the first all-electric SUV from Porsche 1/30/24 9:18 AM
    RCA
    76019 45
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Taycan 2024 Facelift 3/15/24 1:23 PM
    CGX car nut
    5071 50
    Porsche The moment I've been waiting for... 2/1/24 7:01 PM
    Pilot
     
     
     
     
     
    865851 1364
    Porsche 992 GT3 7/23/23 7:01 PM
    Grant
    795225 3868
    Porsche Welcome to the new Taycan Forum! 2/10/24 4:43 PM
    nberry
    382954 1526
    Porsche GT4RS 4/11/24 6:50 AM
    GnilM
    378033 1442
    Porsche Donor vehicle for Singer Vehicle Design 7/3/23 12:30 PM
    Porker
    363332 797
    Others Tesla 2 the new thread 12/13/23 2:48 PM
    CGX car nut
    362913 2401
    Ferrari Ferrari 812 Superfast 4/21/23 8:09 AM
    the-missile
    283426 550
    Porsche Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour 4/11/24 12:32 PM
    Ferdie
    281886 668
    Porsche Collected my 997 GTS today 10/19/23 7:06 PM
    CGX car nut
     
     
     
     
     
    255646 812
    Lambo Huracán EVO STO 7/30/23 6:59 PM
    mcdelaug
    232960 346
    Others Corvette C8 10/16/23 3:24 PM
    Enmanuel
    218639 488
    Lotus Lotus Emira 6/25/23 2:53 PM
    Enmanuel
    216460 101
    Others Gordon Murray - T.50 11/22/23 10:27 AM
    mcdelaug
    163238 387
    Porsche Back to basics - 996 GT3 RS 6/11/23 5:13 PM
    CGX car nut
    135174 144
    Ferrari [2022] Ferrari Purosangue (SUV) 4/15/23 5:20 AM
    watt
    128638 141
    BMW M 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now 12/29/23 9:04 AM
    RCA
    112696 303
    Motor Sp. 2023 Formula One 12/19/23 5:38 AM
    WhoopsyM
    105923 685
    Others Valkyrie final design? 4/28/23 2:45 AM
    Rossi
    98756 219
    Porsche 2022 992 Safari Model 3/7/24 4:22 PM
    WhoopsyM
    82796 239
    AMG Mercedes-Benz W124 500E aka Porsche typ 2758 2/23/24 10:03 PM
    blueflame
    74694 297
    Porsche 992 GT3 RS 3/3/24 7:22 PM
    WhoopsyM
    52668 314
    Motor Sp. Porsche 963 3/16/24 9:27 PM
    WhoopsyM
    24136 237
    Ferrari Ferrari 296 GTB (830PS, Hybrid V6) 1/21/24 4:29 PM
    GT-Boy
    20553 103
    BMW M 2022 BMW M5 CS 4/8/24 1:43 PM
    Ferdie
    18812 140
    129 items found, displaying 1 to 30.