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    2012 Cayenne S White/Espresso 

    Ex: 993 Targa, 986S, 986 and 964 C2


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    2012 Cayenne S White/Espresso 

    Ex: 993 Targa, 986S, 986 and 964 C2


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    The interior is sooooo boring. This is why I do not buy BMW anymore...until they change the interior.


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    RC:

    The interior is sooooo boring. This is why I do not buy BMW anymore...until they change the interior.

    they are trying to use the minimalistic approach which I also consider boring Smiley


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    Why the seats have lost their additional support at front...? yes


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    993Targa:

    Brilliant SmileySmiley


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    THE BEST CAR EVER smiley

    11 E92 M3 CP - 09 Audi TTS Coupe - 07 997 Carrera S - 05 M3 Coupe - 03 M3 Coupe - 96 M3 Coupe EVO (PASS TIME HISTORY)

     


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    RC:

    The interior is sooooo boring. This is why I do not buy BMW anymore...until they change the interior.

    Christian,

    It depends on the taste. You find it sooo boring and and I find it very tasty and sporty. So they lose you but win me Smiley On the other hand, you are not an M guy. I had owned 4 M3s in the last 13 years so I have special sympathy towards the brand. 

    Finally proper looking seats and leather dashboard in an M3/M4. Also I like the dials and the steering wheels very much. I wish to have it as a daily drive next to my italia but it will cost around 200K euro in Turkey with the taxes. Smiley 


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    THE BEST CAR EVER smiley

    11 E92 M3 CP - 09 Audi TTS Coupe - 07 997 Carrera S - 05 M3 Coupe - 03 M3 Coupe - 96 M3 Coupe EVO (PASS TIME HISTORY)

     


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    What are the official specs?


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    ONUR

    THE BEST CAR EVER smiley

    11 E92 M3 CP - 09 Audi TTS Coupe - 07 997 Carrera S - 05 M3 Coupe - 03 M3 Coupe - 96 M3 Coupe EVO (PASS TIME HISTORY)

     


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    It does it for me....then I have always been a sucker for the M3 (I have had 2 in the past). The interior works for me too. So do not like Audi interiors....can't wait for the final specs...


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    trouble is, BMW interior plastics (especially the lower areas such as door sills panels and the lower B pillar panels) are shockingly poor quality ..


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    I don't mind the interior design; my concern is with the materials used, if the current 3 series is an indicator. I was planning on replacing my aging 3 series (2006), but was shocked by the cheapness of some of the plastics. The Honda Accord I keep for my mother to drive when she visits has better quality plastics than those found in some areas of the current 3.

    It's really the front spoiler and the rear valance that I find a bit overdone, if not entirely unpleasant...

     


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    Interesting video on AutoBild.de unfortunately I don't understand German....

    http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-m4-2014-vorstellung-und-preis-4489049.html


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive MSport & 2012 x5 - TurboS Cab on Order Mar14. Range Rover V8 on order June14


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    The front and rear bumpers are too fussy.  The interior looks good in photos but when I test drove the Alpina B3, I found it a curious mixture of pleasant and downright nasty.  This will be the same in all likelihood.


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    Boyko23:

    Why the seats have lost their additional support at front...? yes

     i dont think they have. you adjust the knee Support electronically


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    GR:

    The front and rear bumpers are too fussy. 

    +1000


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    sfo:
    GR:

    The front and rear bumpers are too fussy. 

    +1000

     

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    Like it allot, and also the following spec: 4.1 to 100 with DKG. Not bad at all if you ask me. ;-)

     


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    Why BMW dont know how to produce decent rear lights? They do it nice for the concepts and then downgrade so badly...


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    sfo:

    trouble is, BMW interior plastics (especially the lower areas such as door sills panels and the lower B pillar panels) are shockingly poor quality ..

    Based on my experience BMWs are full of cheap solutions these days. I will never get one again Smiley As I said before, I feel BMWs are made for people who can't differ 95% from 100% (i.e. they can feel happy with less than the best available at a certain price range). Not a fan of the brand any more.


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    Sad to say but BMW is not what they used to be. I had 3 BMWs until recently and on my current path I won't have any in a few years......


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    separated at birth  :   new M4  / new Mustang ( which will surely get ITS  own hood bulge on the hi-po versions )




    Smiley


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    MKW:

    separated at birth  :   new M4  / new Mustang ( which will surely get ITS  own hood bulge on the hi-po versions )

    Good point.  And speaking of Hi-Po versions, even the cheap GT model has about the same power and torque as the M3 for a about half the price.

    Of course the M3/4 has more power and torque than the Carrera S for a little more than half the price too...


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    I know the Bimmer is overdone but gosh... I like this car. Looks amazing, especially in this color!!!

    @intouch... the M4 in this color would go with your yacht! smiley


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    I think the M4 looks cool too.  It's a bit too big for me though, so I am still holding out hope that the M2 will be a nice car (if it materializes).  BMW has made a big deal about how good their electric steering is (I think their mention that it has no self-correcting functions is a veiled slam at Porsche).   I am very curious to try it and see how good it is.  Their hydraulic steering is so bad lately, that they should be able to at least meet that standard (hopeful it's better).


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    I like the interior, it' s minimalistic and clean but purposeful.

    The exterior is a bir busy, would need to see it live. Do we already have the official data? 


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    993Targa:

    BMW has its own version of Maritime Blue now. Interesting! Lighter than Porsche's version.

     


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    i really like the M4, except the busy front spoiler/read diffuser. i have no issues with BMW build quality, my M5 was an excellent car- except the exaggerated close to 2 ton weight. but they have corrected this issue with the M3/4. at this point i do not see a reason why anyone should buy a carrera (S) anymore.


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    I like that maritime blue a lot !


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    Lars997:

    I know the Bimmer is overdone but gosh... I like this car. Looks amazing, especially in this color!!!

     

    Smiley

     


     
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