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    Re: does anyone have an SLS?

    That just may be Newport.  The 65 is a car that really does not make sense other than a statement that the owner has a lot of $$ to spend on a car ($60k more list than a 63).  Now it isn't as though a 911 turbo or regular sl500 don't say money and bling either, but we are talking about the degree.  The 65 is an old 3 valves per cylinder heavily boosted motor, it puts out ridiculous torque that cannot be used, and thus has no advantage versus an sl63 in 0-60 or 0-100 times (the issue is wheelspin).  It does not have the sound of an amg v8 either, and it is a good deal heavier so not so good handling.  AMG does a really nice job on the details of the car and not just the motor, much different suspension and steering than a regular mb.  The SL63 handles really well, at least based on my test drives.  There is a really good Chris Harris video of the SL63 on YouTube - I think he characterizes it rightly as a bipolar car in terms of its mission.  Since that kind of describes my driving realities, I thought it would be a good fit.  

    I realize that I am having this discussion on a Porsche fan site and thus any flavor of Mercedes SL isn't a car many posters here are going to be looking at seriously.  The SLS Gullwing is extremely distinctive and might be looked at by Porsche fans.  My experience was that it is more of a showpiece car when adding all its attributes together, some great and some no so great aspects, for me the not so great elements were too much.  It wasn't my style in terms of degree of ostentatiousness either.  The SL doesn't really shout out in traffic, I don't think.  Mercedes has raised their game a lot on the performance side in the last 3 years; their pre-2010s cars were totally uninteresting.  


    Re: does anyone have an SLS?

    I agree the SL63 R231 is an incredible machine .. with ABC, it corners almost completely flat, and the thrust is stupendous, instant and seemingly never ending.

     


    Re: does anyone have an SLS?

    RC:

    ...Considering the fact that the next AMG models will probably have a turbo charged V6 instead of the N/A V8,

    I was told, the next generation "C63" version will get a 4ltr v8 bi-turbo.


    Re: does anyone have an SLS?

    jesse:
    RC:

    ...Considering the fact that the next AMG models will probably have a turbo charged V6 instead of the N/A V8,

    I was told, the next generation "C63" version will get a 4ltr v8 bi-turbo.

    Interesting...if true. The AMG C-class has always lived from special engines under the hood and a V8 bi-turbo engine would surely be nicer than a V6 bi-turbo. Looking at the competition however and the mandatory CO2 limitations, I'm not so sure.


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    Re: does anyone have an SLS?

    i too read something about a 4l v8 bi-turbo


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    Re: does anyone have an SLS?

    if new C63 AMG comes without a V8, it will be like the new M3.

    I suspect it will have a V8 though, as AMG needs to have a V8 for the other bigger AMGs.


    Re: does anyone have an SLS?

    sfo:

    if new C63 AMG comes without a V8, it will be like the new M3.

    I suspect it will have a V8 though, as AMG needs to have a V8 for the other bigger AMGs.

    The problem is that even Mercedes needs to downsize too (CO2 output) but they are fortunate enough to have many smaller cars in their model portfolio, so the pressure is probably slightly smaller than with other companies like BMW or Audi. With a V8, the new C class AMG models would certainly have a huge advantage over BMW's downsized M3/M4 engine. If Mercedes also decides to add turbo charging and AWD, well...difficult times for BMW if the weight of the C AMG is not too high and if driving dynamics are excellent. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: does anyone have an SLS?

    i feel that the next C63 will technologically outrun the M3/4. air Suspension 9 dear Transmission and surely a nice sounding amg V8.

    then again the C63 is aimed at a different crowd than the M3/4 is. it is more of a sleeper, while the M3/4 wants to be a sportscar.


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    Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you.

    Re: does anyone have an SLS?

    Had a C63 for the weekend and just drove it back. Talked to the sales manager and his info was that the new C63 would be a 4 liter V8 with turbo. He estimated around 500 hp. 


     
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